User talk:Augustus-ua
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism can result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. PeaceAndJusticeForAll (talk) 12:47, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
- Maybe its your edits are vandalism? Please write some sources where the term "Noworussia" mentioned earlier 18th century. Augustus-ua (talk) 12:51, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
- There is no need to add sources like that, as long as the article lists all historical terms related to the region and used before the 20th century, i.e. it is not limited to only the Middle Ages period. Novorossiya is a historical toponym that is old enough to be included into the article along with other widely known and official Russian and Polish terms. PeaceAndJusticeForAll (talk) 10:53, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- No Noworussia is not related to Kievan Rus, but only with the Russian Empire 18th century. Augustus-ua (talk) 13:01, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- Right, but re-read my above message: the article is not only about Kievan Rus', covers a larger period of time and refers to the later terms that date back to the time following the Kievan era (it mentions the 17th, 18th and 20th centuries). That's what I've been talking about all along. PeaceAndJusticeForAll (talk) 14:55, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- No Noworussia is not related to Kievan Rus, but only with the Russian Empire 18th century. Augustus-ua (talk) 13:01, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- There is no need to add sources like that, as long as the article lists all historical terms related to the region and used before the 20th century, i.e. it is not limited to only the Middle Ages period. Novorossiya is a historical toponym that is old enough to be included into the article along with other widely known and official Russian and Polish terms. PeaceAndJusticeForAll (talk) 10:53, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
October 2017[edit]
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Grand Prince of Kiev, you may be blocked from editing. Warning for POV removal of content (apparently in an attempt to remove connections to Russia). - Tom | Thomas.W talk 14:43, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Thomas.W:I just try to clean page from legendary and not real information. About Olexander Nevski and Lev Danilovich - they never been in Kyiv and never titled as kievan princes. Olshansky rules its 100% legend ftom 15 century. You can read this artikle for more information https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fshron.chtyvo.org.ua%2FRusyna_Olena%2FOn_the_Kyivan_Princely_Tradition_from_the_Thirteenth_to_the_Fifteenth_Centuries__en.pdf
- Olso please remove that content. Augustus-ua (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
- I don't know if you're deliberatly trying to fool someone here or not, but A) reliable sources say they were, B) the book you linked to deals only with the 13th to 15th centuries, i.e. after Kievan Rus' ceased to exist, and C) the book makes no mention whatsoever of Alexander Nevsky/Olexander Nevski or Lev Danilovich, so in what way does it support your edits? - Tom | Thomas.W talk 15:31, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
- What source say they were? Book from 13 to 15 century and we told about the same century, so what the problem? so in what way does it support your edits? there are no mentions becouse they didnt ruled Kyiv, doesnt it so simple? Augustus-ua (talk) 15:39, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
- "Grand Prince of Kiev" was a title, and has nothing to do with whether they ever visited Kiev, or were the "hands-on" ruler of the city of Kiev, or not. Try to look at things from a greater perspective, not the very narrow Ukrainian perspective your edits show. The Kievan Rus' was a much larger area than just Kiev, or what is today the Ukraine for that matter, and the history and legacy of the Kievan Rus' does not belong to the Ukraine alone. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 15:52, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
- Do you now that that title was also in russians Tsars and emperors from middle of XVII century? So you think that made them a rulers of Kyivan Rus'? Augustus-ua (talk) 15:58, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
- "Grand Prince of Kiev" was a title, and has nothing to do with whether they ever visited Kiev, or were the "hands-on" ruler of the city of Kiev, or not. Try to look at things from a greater perspective, not the very narrow Ukrainian perspective your edits show. The Kievan Rus' was a much larger area than just Kiev, or what is today the Ukraine for that matter, and the history and legacy of the Kievan Rus' does not belong to the Ukraine alone. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 15:52, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
- What source say they were? Book from 13 to 15 century and we told about the same century, so what the problem? so in what way does it support your edits? there are no mentions becouse they didnt ruled Kyiv, doesnt it so simple? Augustus-ua (talk) 15:39, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
- I don't know if you're deliberatly trying to fool someone here or not, but A) reliable sources say they were, B) the book you linked to deals only with the 13th to 15th centuries, i.e. after Kievan Rus' ceased to exist, and C) the book makes no mention whatsoever of Alexander Nevsky/Olexander Nevski or Lev Danilovich, so in what way does it support your edits? - Tom | Thomas.W talk 15:31, 7 October 2017 (UTC)