User talk:Bald Zebra/Archive 1

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thanks

my first ever Barnstar! Michellecrisp (talk) 01:43, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

...and thanks for the Bristol Rovers user box too! Good work. — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 12:39, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

And good evening to you!

I didn't know you were on Wikipedia. How did you find me - my edit to Cardiff, or my joining Wikipedia groups on Facebook? ;) Anyway, to make this comment Wikipedia-relevant: If there are any articles in English that you'd like to see included on the French Wikipedia, let me know and I can perhaps write a French stub at least. Aridd (talk) 21:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:RFR

Hiya, I'm just trying to get a sligh thandle before pressing the button here. Are you now intending to work at recent Change patrol for vandal fighting? What other instances would you use roll back for? Sincere apologies if this looks like an inquisition. Pedro :  Chat  15:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I've granted rights - please use the tool cautiously and only for vandalism. Ta! Pedro :  Chat  16:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Inappropriate use of rollback

You used rollback here for an edit that does not appear to be vandalism. Please remember that rollback is generally only for vandalism. --- RockMFR 16:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

66.233.116.107

Wonder what they had against Argentina? ;) BananaFiend (talk) 17:00, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Cardiff

Bettia,

Good work on Cardiff, but just a small point Cardiff also has a hill to the east, see Rumney, Cardiff...Anyone who can be bothered to making daily edits to Cardiff deserves a Barnstar...Personally I have better things to do. Seth Whales (talk) 18:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

		The Minor Barnstar
		For tirelessly making minor edits that are essential in improving Cardiff. Seth Whales (talk) 18:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review

Ah well, it's the furthest City have been in years and I'm proud they got that far and didn't lose by too much! Anyway I've made a couple of comments on the peer review and will try to add more soon Welshleprechaun (talk) 11:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Cardiff post peer review

Hi Bettia, I see you deleted the links to the List of largest United Kingdom settlements by population and the List of conurbations in the United Kingdom from the Cardiff intro. I'm happy to demote these links from the intro, but I do feel that they should remain in the article, partly to offset those perrenial POV arguments about the relative size of the city, e.g. here and here (remember those debates!) Although the census dates quickly, this kind of data on the population of cities and urban areas (as distinct from the population of the Local Authority districts that they are contained within) is only published following the census, so it will probably be some time after 2011 before we have the next set of similar data.Pondle (talk) 20:00, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Recent minor edits

First congratulations on having the patience to help out Cardiff123098 on his return from a temporary ban. Secondly - any particular reason for removing the New Delhi reference? --Snowded (talk) 10:31, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

My childhood memories of spending too much time between the Museum and the Sasparella shop say that it was modelled on new Delhi, but I am not sure of the reference. Will have a look see --Snowded (talk) 12:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

6/1 DYK

On 1 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Colchester Gladiators (American football), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Cardiff music scene

I have to disagree with you on this. The Cardiff music scene, as with music scenes of other major cities, includes acts from the surrouding area, not just the city itself. Examples include Sting and Bryan Ferry to Newcastle upon Tyne; The Coral to Liverpool and Jamelia to Birmingham. Welshleprechaun (talk) 11:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Spartans logo.gif)

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• Sorted (blimey, these bots don't waste any time, do they?) :) Bettia ^(talk) 08:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

The Stig

Calm down! I was reverting the same vandalism you reverted. Look at the times in the article history ([1]) - you must have reverted the vandalism about three seconds before I tried to. Neıl 龱 14:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Winchester Castle

Hi Bettia. Regarding Winchester Castle, do you know when the Division One of the Hampshire League became the Premier Division? I'm just thinking that if WC played in Div 1 after the Premier was introduced, they did only play at the equivalent of Step 7 (as we have to move everything down a step prior to the introduction of the Conference North/South). Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 08:35, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

OK, that's fair enough. As I've been discovering at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Overton United F.C., the Wessex/Hampshire situation seems to be quite confusing! I've asked User:Richard Rundle (creator of the FCHD) for input to try and clear things up. пﮟოьεԻ 57 09:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

The equivalent of Wessex 1 is high enough for me - I'll leave the article alone! And yes, they really do need to sort out the situation - I thought they had agreed to a merger already... пﮟოьεԻ 57 09:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robbie Lawton

"fails WP:FOOTYN easily too"

But does it? According to WP:FOOTYN one is notable if one has " played for a fully professional club at a national level of the league structure ". Lawton plays for Altrincham F.C. in Conference National. Conference National is at the national level of the league structure (unlike Conference North and Conference South. Some teams in Conference National are full-time professional - but is Altrincham F.C. (I have my doubts given their normal position at the bottom of the league). It may fail WP:FOOTYN but it certainly isn't an easy fail. Though issue is moot as WP:FOOTYN isn't accepted by community-at-large. Nfitz (talk) 18:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks mate for reverting vandalism on my userpage. I wonder why would anyone do it to me when I'm rarely here! Anyway with this I reward you with this barnstar:

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Thanks for the fix on my userpage.. From FleXiJane (T) 15:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Take care. FleXiJane (T) 15:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hello Bettia,
I noticed that you revert a lot of vandalism. Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia the best encyclopedia in the world!
However, I also noticed that you revert manually (using undo, save page), and also leave warnings manually. To make it easier, try Twinkle. It's a really cool tool that helps you fight vandalism more efficiently. It also makes it much easier to leave warnings to vandals. I believe it will be of great use to you.
Thanks and have a nice day.  S3000  ☎ 17:14, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, currently Twinkle doesn't work with IE. It's ok, the most important thing is countering (reverting) vandalism. Warnings come later. It's good to hear that you're able to counter vandalism effectively -using Vandal Guard. Keep up your good work and have a nice day.  S3000  ☎ 14:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Request for adminship

Hi Bettia,

I have noticed on your userboxes that you would like to be an Administrator one day. I feel your contribution to Wikipedia is as good as anyone, so I would therefore like to propose you for a RfA. Let me know if this is okay on my Talk page, or if you feel you want more time to think about it etc.

P.S. I like your Userboxes (political and all). Seth Whales (talk) 15:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Apart from support for Barack Obama, see his political positions which states "During his 2004 Senate campaign, Obama stated that he had not ruled out military action against Iran"...this is not good...Seth Whales (talk) 16:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I will nominate you in the next few days then. Best of luck, I will see how you get on. Seth Whales (talk) 10:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for those kind words Bettia,

Well firstly and most importantly, I have no inclination to ever become an Administrator at all (see my Userboxes and secondly the edit war that I have recently been involved in would not have helped my cause for many years to come. Thanks again for considering me though.

From the comments so far regarding the RfA, (7/4/1), maybe if we wait a few months and then try again. Nothing has been lost at all...best of luck anyway. Seth Whales (talk) 12:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Good luck. I suspect that your edit count and lack of CAT:CSD work may cause this RFA to fall under WP:NOTNOW. I maybe wrong! Either way I'm happy to support you and best wishes. Pedro :  Chat  10:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Also, remember that it's not wrong to look at the relevant policy pages when answering any other questions people give you and don't respond to opposes unless you feel that there is a serious misconception, as people get annoyed with it for some reason. I hope it goes OK, I think you're a good user who would be a good admin, despite the lowish edit count, and if it fails, it's not a big deal :) Tombomp (talk/contribs) 10:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Bettia - if this request doesn't succeed, don't take it personally please - you're a bright editor and good Wikipedian, but the edit count issue is going to be the main obstacle. That just means... hang around awhile, and try again! Avruch ^T 16:10, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA

Best wishes for your RFA . Have a gr8 day -- Tinu Cherian - 17:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Your RfA was unsuccessful

I am sorry to inform you that I have closed your RfA as unsuccessful. I hope you are not too disheartened and will take on board the comments made by those opposing and will consider running again in the future when you feel you have addressed them. WJBscribe (talk) 10:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Not a suprise, but as noted above don't take it to heart. Give it three months an some solid contributions. You had a lot of regretfull opposes and no issues were raised except for demonstratable experience - which you can easily get. Good luck and hit me up if you need any help. Pedro :  Chat  11:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Let me add to the list; it's a shame that glancing through all those opposes, I don't see a single one that listed something you did that was oppose-worthy; simply some magical things you didn't do. I hope you'll stick around and keep doing what you're doing; you may choose to look at some other admin areas if you wish to become an administrator but don't make that your primary focus. Thanks for your contributions to the project! Please contact me if I can be of any assistance.  Frank  |  talk  13:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I hope you have not taken the outcome of your RFA too seriously. Please dont be disheartened and do keep up the good work you have been doing. People are a bit intolerant when they see 'less experienced' ( this is a relative term) in RFA. Please do come back after 3-4 months, with lots of WP experience, I will also happy to support you.I hope the below smile will make the day better for you ..

-- Tinu Cherian - has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

-- Tinu Cherian - 14:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Cambridgeshire Cats DYK

On 21 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cambridgeshire Cats, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 23:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Gary Muir

Just noticed that you have flagged this article (Gary Muir)for deletion, and just thought I would message you about it as a editor of the article. I am happy to see it go as I don't see him ever returning to football. If he does it can be redone then. Gorillamusic (talk) 21:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Newport County Borough AfD

Hi there

You might want to amend your rationale to refer to "level" 13 rather than Step, as that is the correct terminology when referring to the oevrall pyramid including the pro levels and avoids confusion (the FA-defined "Steps" only start with the Conference National).

Cheers -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:18, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

• OK, done :) Bettia (rawr CRUSH!) 11:25, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Hughes

Hmmm, I was in two minds about prodding it - I couldn't tell whether apperances on the programmes referred to clips of him, or whether he's used as a pundit (on Sgorio). If it's just brief apperances (like the gunging incidents), then I'm not sure this marks him out as different to any other member of the public. If he is a Sgorio pundit, then I'm happy for it to be deprodded. пﮟოьεԻ 57 10:35, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Anglerfish

I don't believe this is what you intended, but your comment on your restoration of this article made it seem as though I was the vandal. I assure you I was not! Kostaki mou (talk) 22:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• Actually, the edit summary states the two edits AFTER yours were vandalism, and I was reverting the article back to your version. Bettia (rawr!) 09:15, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

WABCO

As an editor who has been involved in the recent controversy on the WABCO page, please refer to (and join in) the discussion on the WABCO discussion page. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:59, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

• (replied on Talk:WABCO) Bettia (rawr!) 16:44, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

N. K. Naik

Google scholar has high ratings (citations) for his book and the two publications cited here in the article. Not just this, also he has several publications with high rating from Google scholar.

On the top of all, I. I. T is a top-notch school in Asia. It is one of the highly reputed engineering schools in the world. I suggest you do some research before you decide to delete it. This is an Indian stub.

JRN08 (talk) 02:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• Fair enough, I've removed the PROD purely on the evidence of his work being cited by others. Bettia (rawr!) 10:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Fran Moore

I would like to thank you for your pedantic removal of Fran Moore. Despite a link proving he played in the UEFA Cup for us and the work involved you just couldnt help yourself. Leave the Rovers players to Rovers fans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rovers Forever (talk • contribs) 15:26, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you for your concern. Firstly, nobody owns the articles on Wikipedia - everybody has the right to edit them (or propose that they be deleted) provided that all the right guidelines are followed. Secondly, the link provided on the article (the only source available on this subject) didn't prove anything as you had to pay a ten Euro fee to view it - this coupled with a lack of other sources on this player meant that none of the facts could be verified. Thirdly, the article in question was deleted following a discussion in which all the article's merits were considered - the consensus was that this player is not notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Only then was the article deleted. Bettia (rawr!) 15:56, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Still pedantic. A lot of work is being needlessly deleted.

Secondly why would anyone create an article if it was not true? Thirdly are you going to set up a forum to delete all League of Ireland players? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.198.140.206 (talk) 17:01, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Revisit

Regarding this short thread, do you have any interest in me working on this page some time soon? I would not say I got resounding support, but I do think there's more support based on the few responses I got.  Frank  |  talk  22:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

(replied on Frank's talk page) Bettia (rawr!) 12:38, 10 December 2008 (UTC)