User talk:Balthazarduju/Archive 2

Re: Versions of Map

Your argument is invalid. If I were to write an article on the Battle of Britain, would I have a map of events written in Russian? If I were to have a depiction of Mayan glyphs, would I place it on the EN Wikipedia in Swedish? Regardless of whether the Chicken or the Egg came first, these terms are Chinese terms. It would be illogical to place Japanese maps on the English Wikipedia regarding a Chinese concept. Chinese and Japanese are not the same. Those words on that image do not mean the same thing in both Chinese and Japanese. For example, the Hanzi Character for "Chicken" in Japanese means "Penis" in Chinese, "Machine" in Chinese as "Table" in Japanese. Assuming that it is alright to use Japanese in this sense is utter ignorance. This is an Association fallacy of the worst kind. You have edited without justification, reason or negational evidence, and is therefore a Argument from ignorance, and I condemn such acts. Regards, -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs 09:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, WP:POINT. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs 09:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Additionally, the usage of Simplified Chinese characters are more widespread than Traditional Chinese characters. Traditional is used only in Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau, while Simplified is official in the People's Republic of China, Singapore and Malaysia, while also being the official Chinese script as recognised by the United Nations. Number wise, about 20 million people use Traditional, while 1300 million people use simplified. Also note that the sans-serif-font of the Simplified Chinese version of the image looks more visually appearing than the brush woodblock print font found in the Traditional Chinese version of the image. From a small size (i.e. thumbnail), the brush font is ugly and difficult to read, while the sans-serif font is more distinct. Unless they manage in creating a sans-serif-version of the Traditional Chinese image, I see no need in the usage of Traditional Chinese; such a font coupled with a complex stroke system is a poor choice, given the size of the thumbnails. The detail of the Traditional characters can barely be made out from such a font at such a small text. The shadowing used behind the text also makes it difficult to read behind the dark thin lines of the brush font, especially the blue font, as compared to the thicker sans-serif font. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs 07:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

"Number wise, about 20 million people use Traditional, while 1300 million people use simplified." If we are strictly talking about the Republic of China on Taiwan, then yes, a little more than 20 million (about 23 actually). However, don't people in Singapore still prefer to use Traditional? That would add a few million. Plus, overseas Chinese in places like the United States could potentially use either.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 02:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Re PoA: The official script in Singapore is Simplified. And yes, Overseas Chinese communities use Traditional, but exactly how many million would that make up? -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs 04:07, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Re Balthazarduju: I don't mind whether its Simplified or Traditional; I just think that a sans-serif font is better than a thin-brush stroke font, especially in tiny thumbnail images. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs 04:09, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, how's it going

Check out the main page for Han Dynasty (and all of its related articles now).--Pericles of Athens^Talk 20:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad you had time to look at the page. I kind of wish that I had known the technique of adding the side-by-side picture arrangement a long time ago; otherwise my previous articles would have looked a lot different and would have incorporated twice as many pictures while saving sufficient space in between for text.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 12:15, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I just added these pictures to Han Dynasty, Society and Culture, Government, and Science and Technology:

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Very nice.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 14:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah! My mistake. Bulling's source was obviously purged when I rewrote the article.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 16:28, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Vandal at Han Chinese

I think our vandal at Han Chinese has breached the rule on reverting more than 3 times in 24 hours. I think it's time that he/she was formally warned or blocked, but I have no idea how to do this. Do you know the appropriate action to take?

Bathrobe (talk) 15:21, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Economic history of China

Can you look over said article, copyedit and do some work? thanks. It's been in userspace for two months, and it's stayed there too long. I put it into mainspace as fast as I could get all the citations up. Regards.Teeninvestor (talk) 21:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

K. Here's the current system.

Original article has been split into Economic history of China(Pre-1911) and Economic history of Modern China. Economic history will redirect to the first article, but a notice at the top will show that for modern developments you go to Economic history of Modern China.

The reason I did this is that I will be getting several new sources that I will be expanding the ROC and PRC sections with. If such an expansion occurs, the article will become simply too large to handle. Therefore I decided to split it into 2 articles, 1 ancient and 1 modern.

Another way we can do this is to keep the ROC and PRC information in the article, and then I'll expand it there. But if that happens, the article will expand to 160kb-ish, and although right now It's probably only a bit bigger than the Ming in Prose size(before split), an expansion with the sources will bring it higher and thus relatively unmanagable.

A third way is to leave the two articles as they currently are, and create a new Economic history of China article that summarizes both premodern and modern and redirects to them. Teeninvestor (talk) 21:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

THanks, but wait!

OK. I understand, and i wil remove the extra columns from that table (Global city). But why should I not list the countries in which these cities are?

Ankitbhatt (talk) 10:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

But WHY? What is the reason? Are you talking about Hong Kong or something? It really doesn't matter whether the GAWC lists the countries or not. In Wikipedia, I think I can do so. It will save time for people, as all the cities listed are not well known.

Ankitbhatt (talk) 16:40, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

You really dont get it, do you? YOU HAVE NOT REALLY ANSWERED MY QUESTION! What do you exactly mean by undue importance? Do you even know why I put the countries' names up? I'll tell you why.

Look, all cities on this list are not as well known as New York City or Tokyo or London. In fact, some of the cities under the Beta category, and many of the ciies in the Gamma category, are not well-known at all. My point is that I do not want to add UNDUE IMPORTANCE, as you put it, on the flagicons. All I want to do is to make the people know that so-and-so city is in so-and-so country. Is this that extraneous? Well, I don't think so, OK. If you really want to debate such a senseless topic, I will repond in the webpage you have provided me. Otherwise, I think it is totally fair to put these falgicons up.

And one more thing. Do not keep deleting my table. If, after a lenght of intensive debate, it is decided that the flagicons are not necessary, just delete the flagicons. Dont delete the whole thing! Cant you just do this?

I will be waiting for your response. Please reply as soon as possible.

Ankitbhatt (talk) 16:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Did you even read my whole message? If not, please do so. If you have, read it again.

Ankitbhatt (talk) 08:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Template talk:Han subgroups

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--Lennlin (talk) 21:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Emperor Daowu of Northern Wei and Xue Ren'gui

They killed many surrenders there. The Book of Wei, Book of Tang and Zizhi Tongjian all said that.HRW in 1899 (talk) 18:26, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

It's kind of like "Find Waldo"

Quick! Find the new picture I added to Han Dynasty! It should be easier to find than this guy. Lol.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 11:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

History of China Template

Instead of constantly reverting to your version on Template:History of China, could you please try to fix what problems you see? Also, I usually check in 3 different browsers, IE, Firefox and Google Chrome, and the template in them look fine to me. The version you reverted to is messed up in Google Chrome. What browser/OS are you using where you see problems? LK (talk) 03:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

What version IE, and what version Windows operating system are you using? I'll try to test under those versions as well. However, I have to emphasize that I am trying to fix so that it looks right for multiple OS/browser combinations. If I can't reproduce your error, I'm going to revert to a version that displays correctly on the various OS/browser combinations that I do test on. Thanks, LK (talk) 09:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

New FA candidate

You might take an interest in a new article I've nominated for FA status: Ancient Egyptian literature.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 09:31, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Help

Please,Upload file Wu Zetian from [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trương Hoàng Phong (talk • contribs) 01:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but uploading non-free images without a proper argument of WP:FAIRUSE constitutes WP:COPYVIO, and is against WP policy. See WP:Image use policy. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 08:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

T:HO Manchuria

In the mid-19 century, Russia occupied the eastern part of Manchuria. Should we add link to Russian Empire in the template? 98.119.158.59 (talk) 23:23, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

World Tourism rankings

Hi-just wanted to thank you for having the guts to change the article back to what the WTO's official statistics are. I'll keep an eye on it, as the figures seemed to get changed quite a bit. Still waiting for June 2009's WTO report, in order to update the numbers. Do you know a way to get access to the report w/o being a member of WTO? --Funandtrvl (talk) 17:27, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Han Chinese Subgroup

Hey Balthazarduju, I would like to merge Jiangnanese people and Wu-speaking peoples together to prevent more cities in the region of Jiangnan to make more people page and less confusion between the two almost identical article. Tell me if you ever have any recommendations. Also on the hastily created shandong people and Guangxi people page, if nothing can be done then i will propose to delete them. --LLTimes (talk) 01:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Help:Moving a page

I noticed that you renamed State of Yue to Yue (state) by cut and paste on 4 August 2009. I may agree with that move. But please DON'T rename a page by cut and paste (see Help:Moving a page). That move has been reverted. If you still want to rename it, please place a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Thanks. --Pengyanan (talk) 05:25, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello!

Hi balthazarduju. Long time.

I have an important query. I am curently working on a new article - 2010 South Asian Winter Games - which I created. I'm a little confused. I put a statement that the expenses for infrastructure and develpment to be INR 120 crores. In the reference page, it is stated that this expense is for 'sporting infrastructure'. Is this cost the official budget of the Games? Or should I find a site that specifically states the "official budget"? Please help me out.

Ankitbhatt (talk) 12:52, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Quote

LLTimes (talk · contribs) directly has requested editors on the other side to present "visible evidences", so "the quotations" were necessary to prevent more ping-pong match (a.k.a edit warring).--Caspian blue 00:33, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Service awards proposal

Hello, Balthazarduju/Archive 2! I noticed you display a service award, and would like to invite you to join the discussion over a proposed revamping of the awards. If you have any opinions on the proposal, please participate in the discussion. Thanks! — the Man in Question (in question) 04:14, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer

Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, is currently undergoing a two-month trial scheduled to end 15 August 2010.

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Ethnic groups officially recognized by China

Hi. Thanks for sharing your opinion, such as it is. I've never seen you around China-related articles; do you have any knowledge of the topic? The category is an extremely legitimate subcat of "Ethnic groups in China", thank you so much... it also forestalls various edit wars. So I'm hoping you won't turn a bureaucratic outlook on things into an edit war... since that's exactly what I intended to avoid. Again, thanks so much. • Ling.Nut 09:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous IP

Hi Balthazarduju. We're both having fun dealing with this anonymous IP (72.215.69.43) and his nonstop edits. I wanted to let you know that I filed a sockpuppet investigation of the IP (at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/71.68.251.209), due to similarities with another that got banned earlier this month. I've given up reverting, because he just reverts it back and doesn't listen to anyone. Let me know if there's anything that you think should be changed, or if it's just a bad idea altogether (I've never really done this before). And on another note, looks like he was just temporarily blocked (User talk:72.215.69.43). -Multivariable (talk) 01:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Zhou Dynasty dates

I agree my approach was ugly, but I could not think on another way that was less ugly. I think we need some way to indicate which dates are certain and which are estimates. This is a common problem in ancient history. The Cambridge History, which seems to be the standard English source, does not give a source for its dating system. Do we have a source for the Wikipedia dating system? Can you think of a better way to indicate the reliability of dates? (As for redundancy, the idea was to help the reader by putting a summary at the top.)Benjamin Trovato (talk) 01:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Xia and Turkic history [2]

Hi Balthazarduju, you removed the line about Xia and Shang and horses, and probably you were right for clarity. But Xia, though legendary and undated, has some meat in it. It is the earliest annalistic reference to the Huns, although the annalistic reference was shifted in time, the Huns appeared in China during the Yin period (1600 BC on) of the Shang, and that's when the Chinese got their horses and chariots, as was correctly noted, but with incorrect connotations, in the addition about archeological record, and with pertinent reference. In this context, the legendary story on Xia has direct connection to the Turkic history, though the details may belong to another section of the article. Regards, Barefact (talk) 19:27, 12 October 2010 (UTC)