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Pipe sorting

Noticed your edit of Glenn Davis; absolutely no complaint about it, nor any harm done, but to save you needless editing time in the future, the pipe sort is unaffected, alas, by anything after the first word of it. The purpose of the pipe sort is merely to alphabetize him correctly, after which it doesn't care. Thus, thru the marvels of computer stuff, "|Davis" is sufficient to get him listed as "Davis, /remainder of article name/". Notice for example that he still is not listed as Davis, Glenn Woodward in the category lists, for example Category:West Point graduates; it would indeed be nice, rather than the awkward listing as it stands, but I, at least, know of no way of doing that. Best, Bill 18:58, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Okay. No problem. Thanks. -- Bender235 21:21, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Italian-Americans

Can you please help me in understanding how one qualifies as Italian-American? Does that imply that they have citizenship in both Italy and the U.S/Canada? Would it mean that both parents are of Italian ancestry, but a citizen of the U.S. (or vice-versa)? One parent? Or possibly just having a last last name that sounds Italian (or Italian with an American sounding name)? How many generations, or at what percentage of blood relation does it take to still be Italian-American? I am asking because there are no German-American, or Russian-American, or Brazilian-American categories, yet the Italian-American category is quite extensive. Cacophony 04:14, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

I guess someone's Italian-American if his family is originally from Italy. But why do you ask me? I didn't create that category, I was just adding people that were missing. -- Bender235 09:03, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Deletion tag removed

Why did you nominate my article Paul Grimes for speedy deletion? I shall remove the tag. Ncik 01 Apr 2005

I just don't see how this person is worth an article. However, if want to keep it, it's ok. -- Bender235 00:51, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

To make fire

hello, I try to translate a page from french to english. To do it I copy/paste the french version on the english version page and translat it stpe by step. So can i do it by this way or not ? You wnat to delete this page because it's too much french inside ? tell me how to process. Bye ecitizen (on the fr.wikipedia.org or ecitizen@free.Fr) thanks for reply

Michael Michai Cardinal Kitbunchu

Please use the "move" function if you want to move an article to a new location. If the move isn't possible for whatever reason, please list it on Wikipedia:Requested moves. Moving articles by copy-and-paste is a bad idea, as it destroy the editing history. andy 13:02, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okay. My bad. Won't happen again. -- Bender235 13:04, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I fixed it already - if any edits by you were lost in the process, please feel free to redo them. andy 13:07, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Lead vs. led

"Lead," the element, rhymes with "led," the past tense and participle of "lead," the verb (which rhymes with "read" and "reed," but not "read" or "red," just to illustrate the perversity of English pronunciation and spelling), but should not be confused with it. So when you are referring to the Rick Barry-led Oaks, please use the correct form. You are not alone in this, but you are a prolific writer, so a word to the wise should help avoid this problem in the future. 24.126.41.116 13:01, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC) aka User:Italo Svevo

Ok, thanks. -- Bender235 13:03, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Change in the purpose of the list of cardinals

You changed this on April 6th to a list of cardinals living now. Where are the others? Michael Hardy 00:22, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

FGrH

I want to thank you for correcting the spelling of this source in the Golden Fleece article. I am curious, how did you find the misspelling? --Canon 16:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Search. I was looking for "FGrHist" etc. That's it. And since I am German, it was easy to see that "... der griechischer Historiker" was wrong. ;-) --Bender235 15:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
I think this is an example of a very interesting "invisible hand" process that improves Wikipedia. If you don't mind I have a couple more questions for you as an agent of the "invisible hand." The Golden Fleece article does not actually contain the text "FGrHist," so did you go to the trouble of trying several searches using different key words to locate all references? Or did you just happen upon it while reading the Golden Fleece article? What motivated you to make this link? Did you create the entry for FGrHist?
So right now I'm the object of some sort of scientific study, or what? ;-) I wasn't only looking for "FGrHist", that's why I wrote "etc." behind it. I took "FGrHist", "Jacoby", "Fragmente der griechischen Historiker", and so on, in order to create links on that articles to Die Fragmente der griechischen Historiker. I did create that one. But actually there was already an article on this book, named Fragmente der griechischen Historiker, so some admin merged both articles a few minutes after I created the first one. BTW: Why are you asking me all that stuff? --Bender235 22:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
No sceintific study at all. I was just impressed that you had done so much work to find the articles that needed linking up and I was wondering why. Thanks again for doing it. Canon 04:02, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Sure. That's what Wikipedia is all about. Helping each other to improve the whole project. --Bender235 09:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Move of New Atlantis to Nova atlantis

Thanks for thinking of doing this, but English is generally preferred over original titles. Please see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English). I have moved it back to its original title. Thanks --Reflex Reaction (talk)• 14:59, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I didn't knew the policies in English Wikipedia. In German wikipedia, the original title is prefered. --Bender235 13:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey I appreciate you updating the succession boxes for Ohio State Basketball coaches. Saved me some research time as I plan on writing articles for all of them. -- mmeinhart 17:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. But I'm still not sure about how counting the years a coach has been with the team. For example, Randy Ayers has been coaching the Buckeyes from the 89/90 to the 96/97 season, and O'Brien from 97/98 to 03/04: should we write "Ayers 89-97, O'Brien 97-04" or "Ayers 90-97, O'Brien 98-04"? --Bender235 22:18, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I like it the first way you have it, starting with the year that the coach began and disregarding the season as every college basketball season runs over yearly. -- mmeinhart 22:24, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok. --Bender235 22:55, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah you're right...by the looks of the info you sent me, it looks like the 2nd way by season is the best way to go. Thanks for the input. mmeinhart 03:08, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

College basketball coaches

Hi there. I just wanted to encourage you while you're making categories for college basketball, to please do two things: (1) follow the naming conventions in Category:College football teams, where we try awfully hard not to use shorthand like "SFC" and "NAU" when the school's abbreviation is not well known (unlike, say, LSU or USC); and (2) link the category to a basketball category, which links to the school category. Check out any of the other categories to see how that's done. As a general rule, we don't create categories unless we have three or four players, but that's been disregarded lots of times. Anyway, thanks!--Mike Selinker 08:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok. --Bender235 21:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

David Gavitt

Thanks for the correction. I must have looked at the list of '06 inductees 10 times yesterday and never saw his name! My apologies. Joe 16:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Drazen Petrovic

I've been a little slow to respond. See Talk:Dražen Petrović. Damir 18:02, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


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Jürgen Habermas

There is no referencing, and there are too many lists throughout the article. I can't verify a lot of the information in the article as well (and there are no sources). --GoOdCoNtEnT 22:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay. --Bender235 22:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

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Hello, Though it is hard to quantify this kind of thing, and it is to some extent a subjective judgement, I would suggest that a practice which was adopted throughtout ancient Greece, and which informed art, politics, philosophy, sports, and the military, and which is thought by a number of modern scholars to have been at the root of the "Greek miracle" deserves to be considered as having "top" importance. I am talking about Greek pederasty, of course. Is there some specific reason why you removed that label from the article? Haiduc 20:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't see it as "Top" important from an encyclopedic standpoint. I doubt it is as important as say Ancient Rome or Peloponnesian War. --Bender235 21:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
"The erotic relation of men to youths was the necessary and sole preparation, to a degree unattainable to our comprehension, of all manly education." —Nietzsche
There are kmany others that attest to the critical importance of pederasty, but I do not think it necessary to trot them all out. Unless you can come up with countervailing sources suggesting a lesser importance I suggest we revert. Haiduc 02:41, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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Very nice. Thanks. :-) --Bender235 10:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

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I noticed you just contributed the article about the Justus von Dohnányi. I just wanted to inform you that you can post any Germany-related articles at Portal:Germany/New articles and Portal:Germany/New article announcements. I have gone ahead and posted the article on both pages.--CarabinieriTTaallkk 22:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

PS: The same goes for Julius Weizsäcker.--CarabinieriTTaallkk 22:37, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for that information. --Bender235 23:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

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OJ Mayo

Thanks for the touch up job on the article. Good work. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 15:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

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Joachim Fest

Thankyou for classing this article as "start class." I look forward to you contributing your vast knowledge of German history and literature to improving it. Adam 09:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

reference to Jie of Xia

Hello!! Thanks for adding a reference to the article Jie of Xia (about the consequences of the eruption of Thera. Guss2 18:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Du kannst übrigens auch Deutsch mit mir sprechen, da ich gesehen habe, dass du "sehr gute Deutschkenntnisse" hast. --Bender235 19:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

O.J. Mayo

I reverted your above page move, but I wanted to give you the courtesy of explaining my action. As you can see here, the format that you proposed is generally correct. However, in the same section, the guideline reads "An abbreviation of a first or last name (or omitting punctuation marks and spaces as described above) is only possible if this can be considered as a well established and generally used subject's name or nick name."

In his hometown and in the local and national media, he is refered to as "O.J." After he goes on to the NBA, this may change and a move along the lines that you proposed may indeed be prudent. For the time being, however, the article should remain named "O.J. Mayo."

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Hi Bender235

I just want to let you know that I change the color for the Titans player in their info box because the color is similar to the Houston Texans. Thanks --Phbasketball6 02:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Reggie Ball

Do we know that Reggie Ball is going pro? If so, can you provide a source? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 01:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

He is a senior, isn't he? If he is not in the 2007 NFL Draft, feel free to change the infobox. --Bender235 08:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
He is a senior, but I have no idea if he's going into the draft. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 08:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Aren't seniors automatically eligible? I think so. That's why only underclassmen declare for the Draft. --Bender235 08:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Dominic Robinson

Hi. I wondered if you were planning to fix these following your recent page move. I was about to do it, but I don't want to get into an edit conflict if you're doing the same! Regards, CiaranG 14:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll do. --Bender235 14:48, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

2007 NBA Draft

Please stop adding the list of players. As I said in the discussion, there is no reference provided, nor is there any explanation to the rankings. If you even took a look at the mock drafts listed on the bottom, none of them even agree outside of the top two players. Lastly, no player has even declared for the draft yet. It would be ridiculous to put up a list of players if a player may not even declare for the draft. Do not add the list again unless you provide a reasonable explanation. 75.177.47.183 01:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I have asked many times for you to comment, yet you insist on adding the player projections without doing so. Please comment. 75.177.47.183 23:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

NFL player infobox colors

I saw that you took the color out of Joe Montana's infobox, I first was against retired players having it but then I realized I was fighting a battle that couldn't be won. Thanks --Phbasketball6 01:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


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European Hall of Fame

Actually there is such a thing. [4] War wizard90 01:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Man, this is fan project. This means about as much as little Timmy's "favorite movies list" on any given website. You can't compare this nonsense to the real Basketball Hall of Fame or the College Basketball Hall of Fame. --Bender235 01:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Longhorn player wikilinks

Hello Bender, I see you added some redlinks to Template:2005 Texas Longhorn roster. May I inquire how you selected the players to link? I had previously only linked players who already have articles. Do you think these players are likely to get articles soon? Johntex\talk 18:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I do. And some of the players you've linked didn't have articles, btw, like Aaron Lewis and Aaron Harris. --Bender235 19:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, as of my last version of the template, all the linked players did have links.[5] You say you believe those articles will be created, but you don't say why you believe that. Could you please enlighten me? I don't have a strong objection excepet that it seems like we should have some criteria for why we are redlinking some names and not others. Johntex\talk 20:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Check Aaron Lewis and Aaron Harris. These aren't football players.
I don't know if or when new articles will be created. I just linked a few players that I think a above-average in this team. --Bender235 20:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I see that now. My point is that I wikilinked all the players who had articles (or that I thought had articles). I think that is a logical cut-off. If they don't have articles now, it seems better not to link them unless the articles or planned. Johntex\talk 00:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Please Stop

please stop deleting the color from retired players like Michael Irvin and Dan Marino.--Bucs10 00:33, 8 March 2007

Stop adding a color! Those players are retired. Team colors are only for active players. --Bender235 02:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

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RE: Please vote

See Template talk:Infobox NFL player#Retired players. --Bender235 14:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the heads-up. —xanderer 14:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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Voting Problem

The voting is wrong because it should be a tie at 8 because user:Wizardman put that only the obvious ones meaning he voted yes basically for players like Dan Marino, Jerry Rice, or Emmitt Smith —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.83.16.137 (talk • contribs)

There is no problem. He voted, and that's it. --Bender235 09:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

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Jimmy Clausen

The Jimmy Clausen article received heavy editing today by new/unregistered users, which I noticed at WikiRage.com. According to Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you think your efforts to improve that article would be aided if new and unregistered users were blocked from editing that article, please let me know and I will protect the article. Thanks. -- Jreferee (Talk) 08:10, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, you should probably do so. ––Bender235 09:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Calvin Johnson (American football) Featured Article push

I'd like to nominate Calvin Johnson (American football) for Featured Article status, but I'd like the article expanded a little bit before I do. Since you're one of the primary editors of that article, I figured that you'd be a good one to ask. My primary concern is comprehensiveness; it needs more prose/information, especially in "Early years" and "College career". Also consult suggestions in the recent peer review, the ongoing WPBIO A-class review, and these examples of FA-Class athletes. Once the article gets a bit longer, I'll nominate it at FAC, and I hope you'll help address reviewers' suggestions. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 01:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Jerrod Johnson

Hi, thanks for writing the article on Jerrod Johnson. I planned to start his article, but never got to it. The article is very well written. BlueAg09 (Talk) 18:31, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Article on Phil Danaher

My good friend Coach Phil Danaher called me wondering how bio ended up on Wikipedia. I explained to him how the site works - but was wondering why you chose to write an article on him? I can send you more information or photos if you would like. user:Gandalf443 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 03:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I considered him a notable Texas high school football coach, since he is third on the all-time winning list. G.A. Moore and Gordon Wood already had their articles in the Wikipedia, so I added Coach Danaher as well.
You are welcomed to add more information or a photo to the article, of course. ––Bender235 09:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

October 2007

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Kosta Koufos. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. nattang 16:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm aware of that, and as you know I already requested semi-protection for that article. --Bender235 17:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You violated the WP:3RR rule on Kosta Koufos. I will report you next time. 86.27.110.238 00:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Didn't you do, too? Don't try to fool me buddy. ––Bender235 00:30, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Biography Newsletter 5

The Biography WikiProject Newsletter
Volume IV, no. 4 - September 2007
Project News
  • The three-month long Summer Assessment Drive, organized by Psychless, was a huge success! It ran from June 1 – September 1, and reduced the backlog of unassessed articles from 113,385 to 56,237. In all, over 100,000 articles were assessed. Over 60 people contributed in some way.
  • A barnstar has been created for exceptional work on Wikipedia biographies and for assisting the project. The Biography Barnstar is listed with the other WikiProject awards and can be awarded easily with a template. See the template page for more details.
Member News

Congratulations to the editors who worked on the newest featured biographies: Augustus; William Shakespeare; Adriaen van der Donck; Alfred Russel Wallace; Alison Krauss; Anne Frank; Anne of Denmark; Asser; Bart King; Bill O'Reilly; Bobby Robson; Bradley Joseph; CM Punk; Ceawlin of Wessex; Colley Cibber; Cædwalla of Wessex; Dominik Hašek; Elizabeth Needham; Frank Macfarlane Burnet; Georg Cantor; Gregory of Nazianzus; Gunnhild Mother of Kings; Gwen Stefani; Hannah Primrose, Countess of Rosebery; Harriet Arbuthnot; Harry S. Truman; Henry, Bishop of Uppsala; Héctor Lavoe; Ine of Wessex; Ion Heliade Rădulescu; Jack Sheppard; Jackie Chan; Jay Chou; John Martin Scripps; John Mayer; Joseph Francis Shea; Joshua A. Norton; Kate Bush; Kazi Nazrul Islam; Kevin Pietersen; Martin Brodeur; Mary Martha Sherwood; Mary of Teck; Maximus the Confessor; Miranda Otto; Muhammad Ali Jinnah; P. K. van der Byl; Penda of Mercia; Pham Ngoc Thao; Rabindranath Tagore; Ramón Emeterio Betances; Red Barn Murder; Richard Hakluyt; Richard Hawes; Robert Garran; Roman Vishniac; Ronald Niel Stuart; Ronald Reagan; Roy Welensky; Rudolph Cartier; Samuel Adams; Samuel Beckett; Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough; Sarah Trimmer; Sargon of Akkad; Shen Kuo; Sophie Blanchard; Stereolab; Sydney Newman; Sylvanus Morley; Tim Duncan; Timeline of Mary Wollstonecraft; Uncle Tupelo; Waisale Serevi; Wallis, Duchess of Windsor; Walter Model; William Bruce; William Goebel; Yagan; Zhou Tong; Æthelbald of Mercia; Æthelbald of Mercia

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The newsletter is back! Many things have gone on during the past few months, but many things have not. While the assessment drive helped revitalize the assessment department of the project, many other departments have received no attention. Most notably: peer review and our "workgroups". A day long IRC meeting has been planned for October 13th, with the major focus being which areas of the project are "dead", what should our goals be as a project, and how to "revive" the dead areas of our project. Contribute to the discussion on the the new channel (see below)

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Mitch Mustain

Your entry for "Pro-style Quarterbacks 2006" from Rivals.com was removed for several reasons. This gets into the realm of speculation on an internet service that is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. All the listings before it for Mustain are in regards to overall position titles, not something specific and speculative like "Pro-style Quarterbacks." The one you listed is for "Pro-style Quarterbacks" and is pure speculation on the internet and has no place on an encyclopedia and is not consistent with the preceding listings. Caffehamp 16:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

So why is this article citing Scout.com, as Rivals.com is prohibited? ––Bender235 18:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Because you are listing "Pro-style Quarterbacks 2006," which is a speculative listing not related to actual play at the high school and college levels. The other listings refer to Mustain in terms of best player overall, not something specific like "Pro-style Quarterbacks 2006." That belongs on an internet service, not an encyclopedia. Caffehamp 18:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
So if we use the overall ranking (where Mustain is 2nd quarterback behind Stafford), it's all fine?
BTW: That Scout.com ranking is based on potential, too. That best quarterback on actual play in 2006 was probably Greg McElroy of Southlake Carroll, since he had far better stats than Matt Stafford, but he won't be the best for NFL or even NCAA purposes. ––Bender235 19:06, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, no, because until that point, all the listings were for all positions on the field and were not restricted to the position of quarterback. It suddenly switches from overall positions to quarterback ranking; hence why the start of the sentence with "However, he was..." becomes grammatically and factually inaccurate. In regards to awards, those are the most prestigious high school awards and are considered accomplishments, not based on what someone is projected to do in the future. Caffehamp 19:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Dwight D. Eisenhower

Dwight D. Eisenhower did NOT go to high school in Texas, he went to high school in KANSAS. WikiDon 01:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Of course, this begs the question: "Are you this careless with all of your edits?"
I'm sorry. ––Bender235 02:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem with red links

There is no way of knowing what the article of a high school or football coach will be called. For example, an article for Central High School in Chicago might be called Central High School (Chicago, IL), Central High School (Chicago), Central High School (IL), Chicago Central High School, Central High School, Chicago, IL, to name a few. An article for a football coach named Joe Smith might be called Joe Smith (American football coach), Joe Smith (football coach), Joe Smith (American football, or something else. Also, new articles for obscure football coaches (such as those who have only coached high school teams, of which many of these are) are rarely created. If you find that one has been added you are welcome to add a link. I kept the link to Raymond Burnett, as you specified that his article will be up soon. Iowa13 21:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

You are correct about the naming conventions, but often in this case they are not followed. And I just don't think the article looks clean with so many red links. Also, thanks for wikifying Burnett, his article is up now. Iowa13 03:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Shuffle offense

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Barnstar for you

The Running Man Barnstar
I award this barnstar to Bender235 for his fine contributions to Texas A&M Aggies football and Texas-related articles. Gig 'em! BlueAg09 (Talk) 00:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll keep up working. ––Bender235 00:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

René Moreau

René Moreau

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article René Moreau, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of the page. Cheers, CP 16:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Calathes

Hi,

I reverted Nick Calathes. There are two problems with it: First, pronunciations in Wikipedia are assumed to be in English unless stated otherwise. True, people sometimes get sloppy, but this guy was born in the US, and his first name is English. Second, [kɑˈlɑʈɪs] is incorrect even as Greek. [kaˈlaθis] would be closer, and could appear after his Greek name, though there isn't much point since it's predictable from the spelling. Do you know how people say his name in English? kwami (talk) 18:07, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

In that YouTube clip they say his name multiple times (with "English pronunciation", if you want so). They pronounce his name with the "a" like in "apple" and the "th" like in "the", and that is wrong.
Despite he was born in the U.S. and his first name is English, his last name is still Greek. Like Jake Delhomme still having a French name - it's "Del-Hom", not "Del-Homey". Get the point? —Bender235 (talk) 10:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Blocked for edit warring

You've been blocked for 24 hours for edit warring at Houston Nutt. In the future, please seek consensus for your edits, pursuing dispute resolution if necessary. If you wish to contest this block, you may add {{unblock|reason}} to your talk page. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

{{unblock|You're right, I shouldn't have reverted User:Allstarecho's edits at Houston Nutt that often. But as Talk:Houston Nutt#NPOV shows, I think I was right to do it. If you would unblock me, I will not revert the Houston Nutt article anymore, but participate in the discussion mentioned above. ––Bender235 (talk) 10:35, 30 November 2007 (UTC)}}

I've notified the blocking admin of your request, and requested their comments on the matter. Please stand by, in the meantime. – Luna Santin (talk) 10:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
checkY

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

Has agreed not to edit war any longer.

Request handled by: Heimstern Läufer (talk) 16:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Per your agreement not to revert, I've unblocked you. Obviously, if you fail to keep that agreement, I'll have to re-block. Cheers, Heimstern Läufer (talk) 16:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Superscripting the suffix in ordinal numbers

Hello Bender. I notice you superscript the suffix (th, nd, st, etc.) of ordinal numbers — per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Exceptions, the suffix is not supposed to be superscripted. I too think they look better superscripted, but I think it's best if we follow Wikipedia's guidelines. Thanks! BlueAg09 (Talk) 01:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I did not know that. I won't superscript the suffix anymore. Thanks for that information. ––Bender235 01:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

The Legend: Tom Osborne

Speaking as a Nebraskan who knows the importance of tradition of in this program, I must ask that you stop removing Coach Osborne's place as interim head coach. The template isn't "Nebraska Head Coaches who Coached a Game" it's just coaches, and whether or not he coached a game is irrelevant. The man appointed himself interim head coach during a time of crisis, and for that he should keep his name on the template.

Go Huskers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.213.33 (talk • contribs)

I hope you are aware that this means you have to add about a dozen other coaches to the Huskers Football Coach template, because every search for a coach takes some weeks, and there is always an interim coach in that time. But those coaches never appear in official records, except in that one case that they coached a game (mostly the bowl game, like Pelini did in 2003). This being said, I'll remove Osborne as interim coach. ––Bender235 09:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Suck my Husker balls, dick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.213.39 (talk) 16:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, right… ––Bender235 16:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
It's not the place for some French guy to say what should be on a Nebraska template. Osborne appointing himself interim head coach was a big thing around here, and it should reflect that on here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.213.39 (talk) 16:37, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
OK, as a Nebraska Fan, I support Bender235 in this matter. It is unrealistic to list every interim coach that has ever held the position for every program. It doesn't matter if it was a "big thing" in Nebraska, Wikipedia is not about Nebraskan Big Things. I love all Dr. Tom has done for the state too, but putting him up as interim coach for a four-day assignment with no practices supervised or games coached is not a notable event in the big picture that will stand the test of time. Heck, I am the guy that put him up on WP for the interim post initially, so I am as qualified as anyone to state my opinion after changing my mind about it. As for the vulgar comment from another Husker fan, I am appalled. Shame on you, representing Nebraska that way, I expect much better than that from all Nebraskans. My apologies, Bender235, for that childish wag. Also, thanks for obtaining a block on the user engaged in the edit war. Fjbfour (talk) 03:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate your support. ––Bender235 (talk) 10:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I saw your post at WP:AIV. As this is a content dispute and not considered vandalism, I'd suggest trying to come to a consensus with the folks at WikiProject College football. Until then, I'm going to leave the template protection in place. Let me know if you have any other concerns. Caknuck (talk) 00:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Petrino

Bender, why in the world did you edit out that Bobby Petrino was a candidate for the Arkansas job and rule it as vandalism??? You have Petrino listed as a potential candidate for the LSU and Auburn jobs but their two coaches just signed new contracts! Those jobs are not open nor will they come open. So you can leave that and someone puts in that Petrino is rumored to be a candidate for the Arkansas job (rumor has been going around for a week) and you call it vandalism? Who are you anyway? You don't know what you are talking about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hackerhog99 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Point is that you can't add rumors like this without sources. You did not add a source, thus I deleted it. Do you have a source for this rumor? ––Bender235 (talk) 01:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Here you go. http://arkansas.scout.com/2/708415.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hackerhog99 (talk • contribs) 01:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Okay, that's fine with me. ––Bender235 (talk) 11:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Ah Bender, poking your nose where it doesn't belong again...Just leave the deleting to administrators and stop trying to destroy college football. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.213.117 (talk) 07:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
…right. Or insulting the whole state of Nebraska. *lol* Stop making a fool out of yourself. You're embarrassing Husker Nation. ––Bender235 (talk) 11:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


Speedy deletion of Jewell Wallace

A tag has been placed on Jewell Wallace requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

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Speedy deletion of Clyde Lee (American football)

A tag has been placed on Clyde Lee (American football) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Sting_au Talk 12:19, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Larry Fedora

I understand you have a problem with another user's edits of the above article, but please try to keep cool while editing. You can not force other users to discuss their changes with you, and edit warring is not the solution. You have no more right than he has to edit the article, and could just as easily be blocked for your reverts as he could be for his. What he's doing may be misguided, but it's not vandalism. Also, comments such as this one are completely unacceptable, especially when dealing with new users. Remember: There are no emergencies on Wikipedia. Relax, don't yell at other users, and eventually things will work themselves out. Kafziel Talk 22:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, you may be right. But quite frankly, if he has one opinion how the article should look like, and I have a different one, then the easiest way is to discuss. But he refuses. I hope he can give an answer why he wants that (HC) in the infobox, although the infobox clearly says its always "HC unless noted". ––Bender235 (talk) 23:08, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Let's hope my warning to him gets him to answer your question. Kafziel Talk 23:38, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Notorious

Hi, Bender. I've prodded the article Notorious (2009 film) because it does not meet the notability guidelines for future films. I encourage you to put the information about the project at the article Notorious B.I.G. until production can begin, which is not a certainty in the film industry. Let me know if you have any issues with this tagging! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:05, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

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