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New features for course pages

Several noticeable improvements to the EducationProgram extension (in addition to some small bug fixes) will go live on or around 2014-01-23:

Notifications

All participants in a course (students, instructors, volunteers) will receive Notifications whenever their course talk page is edited. Thus, editors can use course talk pages to send messages they want the whole class to be aware of, and the class participants are likely to see them.

Special:Contributions student notice

For users enrolled as students in courses that are active, a notice will appear at the top of Special:Contributions noting which course(s) they are enrolled in. This will make it easy for users who come across the work of student editors to find out that they are part of a course and identify other class participants.

Adding articles

Course instructors and volunteers will be able to assign articles to student editors, instead of all articles needing to be added by the student editors themselves.

Adding students

Instructors and volunteers will be able to add users as students in courses, instead of all student editors needing to enroll for themselves. This makes it easier to maintain complete lists of students, and also makes the extension more suitable for tracking participation in edit-a-thons, workshops and other collaborative projects beyond the Wikipedia Education Program.


If you have feedback about these new features, or other questions or ideas related to course pages, please let me know! --Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

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Seeking advice on possible AfC: Limb evolution

Please see my post here and let me know what you think. Do AfC require some sort of review procedure? I'd hate for them to spend a lot of time writing an article that never gets posted. Also, is it better to contact you here or through email? Biolprof (talk) 04:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Commented, and I'd say both are equal. Posting here automatically emails me. Best. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 22:57, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Deleting comments by others

Please do not simply delete talk page comments by other users, as you did at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. I have instead archived the section to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 123#Red link doesn't turn blue after redirect is created. Thank you. – PartTimeGnome (talk | contribs) 22:43, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Redrose64 has since restored the thread to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 123#Red link doesn't turn blue after redirect is created. – PartTimeGnome (talk | contribs) 23:32, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Noted, thanks. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 13:54, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Course page accidentally deleted

oops! In trying to edit the title and term for my course page I accidentally deleted it. But when I try to undelete it, I get this error message:

A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.

Function: ORMRow::insert Error: 1062 Duplicate entry '313' for key 'PRIMARY' (10.64.32.22)

Can you help? AminMDMA 07:53, 14 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AminMDMA (talkcontribs)

AminMDMA, I will post at WP:ENB, and someone who knows more about the software than me should help. For what it's worth, I tend to stay out of those course pages when I can. I prefer working on course pages that behave just like a Wikipedia page. I've had another class I've helped (last semester) have their course page accidentally deleted as well. I don't think it was ever recovered. =( Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 13:54, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

WP Neuroscience in the Signpost

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Neuroscience for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 23:35, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Education Program technical update, February 2014

We've started working on "editor campaigns", a system that we expect will eventually be able to replace our current Education Program extension (and be useful for many other purposes as well). The early work with that project will focus on a system for signup up new editors for editing campaigns (such as courses, but also edit-a-thons, Wiki Loves Monuments, etc.). Because of that, progress will be slow on the current course page system. However, we have several improvements that should be available within the next few weeks.

Anyone can edit the main text of course pages

As part of the effort to make course pages behave more like regular wiki pages, we've enabled editing of course pages by anyone. Users who currently have the right to edit courses will have access to all the fields (so that they can change the start/end dates, and change the enrollment token). Users who currently cannot edit courses will be able to edit only the "page text" portion. This change should take effect on 2014-02-27.

Simplified course editing interface

We've considerably simplified the interface for editing course pages, removing the options to rename courses. Changing the title of a course would also move the course page, creating confusion and leading to a number of bugs. Several other parts of the course editing interface were not very useful, so we've removed them to make it easier on newcomers. This change should take effect on 2014-02-27.

Additional Notifications

Two students participating in the Facebook Open Academy mentorship program are currently working on additional Notifications for course pages. For the first of these, users will be notified whenever someone else adds them to a course.

Once again, if you have feedback about these new features, or other questions or ideas related to course pages, please let me know!--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 17:38, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

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Iran\xE2\x80\x93United States relations listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Iran\xE2\x80\x93United States relations. Since you had some involvement with the Iran\xE2\x80\x93United States relations redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. ThaddeusB (talk) 01:40, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Education Program technical update, April 2014

Since the last update, development of the editor campaigns project has been continuing, and it's almost at the point that it will be useful to users running edit-a-thons and other non-course outreach events. (If you are planning such an event soon and would like to beta test it for tracking the contributions of newcomers, get it touch.) In the meantime, we've made a few small improvements and bug fixes to the Education Program extension:

Default course end date

The default end date for courses is now approximately six months in the future, instead of immediately. This will prevent the common problem where a user creates a new course page but does change the default dates, resulting in a course that is immediately considered "ended" and thus cannot be enrolled in.

Notifications when you get added to a course

Whenever a user gets added to a course by someone else, they will now receive a Notification.

Disabling individual student profiles

The student profile special page (Special:Student/Username, not to be confused with Special:Students) is a page that lists the courses a student editor is enrolled in, and is also supposed to list the articles that user is working on. However, the list of articles can include incorrect data in cases where an instructor or volunteer assigned the articles to the student editor. These profiles are being removed from the extension altogether. This change should go into effect Thursday, May 1. (Logs are still available to find out which courses a user is enrolled in.)

Article edit notifications for students coming soon

A nearly complete patch from Facebook Open Academy student Jeff Lloyd will add a new type of Notification: students will be alerted to edits made by others to the article(s) they are assigned (as well as the corresponding talk pages). Expect to see this feature within the next several weeks.

Duplicate courses and API deletion

Bugs in the course page creation process (now fixed) led in some cases to duplicate listings for the same course at Special:Courses. This happens when the same course page had two (or more) different course ID numbers. It is possible to clean up such duplicate entries using by making calls to the API. I've documented this process and written a Python script for it.

If you have feedback about these changes, or other questions or ideas related to course pages, please let Anna Koval or me know!--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 19:23, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

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Invitation join the new Physiology Wikiproject!

Physiology gives us an understanding of how and why things in the field of medicine happen. Together, let us jumpstart the project and get it going. Our energy is all it needs.

Based on the long felt gap for categorization and improvization of WP:MED articles relating to the field of physiology, the new WikiProject Physiology has been created. WikiProject Physiology is still in its infancy and needs your help. On behalf of a group of editors striving to improve the quality of physiology articles here on Wikipedia, I would like to invite you to come on board and participate in the betterment of physiology related articles. Help us to jumpstart this WikiProject.

  • Feel free to leave us a message at any time on the WikiProkect Physiology talk page. If you are interested in joining the project yourself, there is a participant list where you can sign up. Please leave a message on the talk page if you have any problems, suggestions, would like review of an article, need suggestions for articles to edit, or would like some collaboration when editing!
  • You can tag the talk pages of relevant articles with {{WikiProject Physiology|class=|importance=}} with your assessment of the article class and importance alongwith. Please note that WP:Physiology, WP:Physio, WP:Phy can be used interchangeably.
  • You will make a big difference to the quality of information by adding reliable sources. Sourcing physiology articles is essential and makes a big difference to the quality of articles. And, while you're at it, why not use a book to source information, which can source multiple articles at once!
  • We try and use a standard way of arranging the content in each article. That layout is here. These headings let us have a standard way of presenting the information in anatomical articles, indicate what information may have been forgotten, and save angst when trying to decide how to organise an article. That said, this might not suit every article. If in doubt, be bold!
  • Why not try and strive to create a good article! Physiology related articles are often small in scope, have available sources, and only a limited amount of research available that is readily presentable!
  • Your contributions to the WikiProject page, related categories and templates is also welcome.
  • To invite other editors to this WikiProject, copy and past this template (with the signature):
  • To welcome editors of physiology articles, copy and past this template (with the signature):
  • You can feel free to contact us on the WikiProkect Physiology talk page if you have any problems, or wish to join us. You can also put your suggestions there and discuss the scope of participation.

Hoping for your cooperation! DiptanshuTalk 12:34, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

The article Chantel Jeffries has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No non-trivial third party coverage to support notability whatsoever. Being seen with a celebrity does not confer WP:BIO notability. Will be sent to AfD if disputed

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:09, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Survey for editors who mentor newcomer

Dear Wikipedia Ambassador,

I am seeking input on your experience as a mentor to new Wikipedians. This survey is designed to provide insight for the development of a new mentorship support tool on Wikipedia. If you have a moment, please take this survey, it should not take more than 10 minutes of your time to complete.

https://syracuseuniversity.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_4V2SSrhU2NFOVAV

Also, if you are able to, I would greatly appreciate it if you would send the following survey to the mentee you worked with:

https://syracuseuniversity.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_4V1quUdMZ1By3Ah

Thank you in advance for your participation, Gabriel Mugar 13:33, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Newsletter

Hello Biosthmors! It has been a long time since I have seen you around. I remember a discussion several months ago where you were talking about creating a newsletter. Well, I can somewhat proudly say that we've finally got around to doing it. The newsletter is here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Newsletter. I'd highly value your input into the newsletter, its delivery format, organisation and appearance (not currently that good-looking!). You've always been pleasant and collegiate in discussions, collaborative in your editing style, and have a history of making good suggestions as to how to improve things. I know you've expressed an interest in this sort of thing before, and I'd value your input and contributions. If you're interested, the most suitable place would be here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Newsletter. Kindly, --LT910001 (talk) 01:43, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Hi Biosthmors, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! — xaosflux Talk 16:32, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

July 6 Atlanta Wiki-Picnic

You might be interested in signing up for this: Wikipedia:Meetup/Atlanta/Atlanta 8.--Pharos (talk) 04:01, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Fraudulent Russian politician

Please take a look at the profile of Mikhail Batin. This is blatant self promotion by a Russian politician-wannabe, who spends most of his time in bars and night clubs and who’s only claim to fame is a blog with fairly radical calls for violence. Including violence in Ukraine. Both the Russian and English versions of the Wiki articles were written by the hired staff within his “foundation”. OlgaMartyniuk editor, who originally wrote the Russian version of the biography is officially employed at his “foundation”. He claims to be the director of the regenerative medicine laboratory at Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology without having a graduate degree. This is a disgrace for the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology. Viktor Petrik, another disgrace to Russian science, at least knows what he is talking about when giving interviews. He does not speak English and is an anti-Semite. Wikipedia is better than that. 80.82.68.78 (talk) 03:58, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello! I am a professor at Ohio State, which does not yet have a presence on the Special: Institutions page. I wish to use Wikipedia this autumn for an evolution class and am having trouble getting started. I have my own sandbox (Antlady), and have taken the training, and used the Course Wizard. The training indicates that after using Course Wizard there is a way to add my institution. HOWEVER, when I got to the end, it dumped me into the Education noticeboard, which does not seem to have a way out.

I do not know how to get my institution listed, which is the first step. Can you help, please?!

Joan Herbers Ohio State University aka Antlady Antlady (talk) 14:27, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

My apologies, my request was appended to your entry on the Russian issue. I hope you can still help me, as I am really struggling. Joan Herbers Antlady (talk) 14:34, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Following Wikipedia Core Principles

Jmh649, aka James Heilman, MD, has edited this “biographical page”, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tobinick), more than 20 times, since 2:55, 17 September 2014. His most recent edit, as of this writing, is 5:45, 18 September 2014. That is more than 20 edits in approximately 27 hours.

Jmh649 edits with a negative tone (see 5:45, 18 September 2014). He removes arguments, rather than fairly explaining both sides. He uses improper sources. He has not participated on the Talk page. He has taken an informed, well-researched biography, and reduced it to a critical, negative, one-sided, poorly sourced diatribe.

Biographies of Living Persons “must be written with the greatest care and attention to verifiability, neutrality, and avoidance of original research.” (WP:BLP) They “must not take sides, but should explain the sides, fairly and without bias. This applies to both what you say and how you say it.” (WP:NPOV) Contentious material about living persons…that is unsourced or poorly sourced…should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.” (WP:BLP)

“Questionable sources are those that…have an apparent conflict of interest…Avoid self-published sources….” (WP:V)

Edward Tobinick and Steven Novella are opposing litigants in a current lawsuit. It is taking sides (a violation of NPOV) to use Novella’s self-published blog, specifically a webpage that directly attacks Tobinick (http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/enbrel-for-stroke-and-alzheimers/ ), as a source in the biographical page, as Jmh649 does. Jmh649 also uses a defamatory CaseWatch page targeted at Tobinick as a source in the biographical page; it, too, is a one-sided, defamatory self-published blog, with which Novella is affiliated.

Further, the biographical page, as constructed by Jmp649, has had placed into it yet another source, an article in The Oklahoman (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-doctors-question-a-california-physicians-treatment-for-strokes/article/3576689 ) that also falsely targets Tobinick. This source is also defamatory and contains false and/or misleading statements of fact and/or opinion. It is also outdated, dating from 2011 and omits material facts; for example, it does not take mention nor take into account four randomized, double-blind clinical trials of etanercept, one for Alzheimer’s, three for neurological spine pain, that showed statistically significant clinical results in subjects who received etanercept vs. controls, all of which were completed after this source was published and have been detailed in my previous post on this Talk page. Jmh649 reverted (removed) the page edited by me that excluded this defamatory, outdated, and improper source. His improper reversion was clearly in violation of WP:BLP (Contentious material about living persons…that is unsourced or poorly sourced…should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.” (WP:BLP))

Positive articles about the subject of the biographical page (Tobinick) from leading news sources such as the BBC, or the International Business Times, have been removed by Jmh649 from the biographical page. Likewise, he has removed nearly all of the more than 20 peer-reviewed scientific articles that were formerly mentioned, and all reports of favorable placebo-controlled randomized clinical trials from the biographical page. What is left is negative opinion, poorly sourced on self-published blogs, and outdated, defamatory news items.

What is Jmp649’s justification for removing all of Dr. Tobinick’s professional affiliations, medical board specialty certifications, and relevant professional medical presentations from his biographical page? What is Jmp649’s justification for highlighting in the biographical page the webpage of another physician (Novella) who is the subject of a lawsuit by Dr. Tobinick specifically alleging the inclusion of false and defamatory statements of fact on the very webpages that Jmp649 highlights and hyperlinks to on his altered version of the biographical page?

The biographical page, as it stands in its current revision, is not an objective article, and the biographical page as revised by Jmp649 flagrantly violates Wikipedia guidelines for composing the biography of a living person. As a veteran Wikipedia administrator, Jmh649 should know better; this is intentional and reckless behavior. This is not compatible with core Wikipedia policies, including WP:BLP, WP:NPOV, etc. For these reasons Jmh649 should refrain from any further participation on this page, and I plan to revert all of his edits and restore the version that was in place prior to his participation. Additionally Jmp649 should be blocked from further reverts, edits, etc. by the WP:3RR rule. Rjwrjw100 (talk) 21:00, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Following Wikipedia Core Principles

Jmh649, aka James Heilman, MD, has edited this “biographical page”, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tobinick), more than 20 times, since 2:55, 17 September 2014. His most recent edit, as of this writing, is 5:45, 18 September 2014. That is more than 20 edits in approximately 27 hours.

Jmh649 edits with a negative tone (see 5:45, 18 September 2014). He removes arguments, rather than fairly explaining both sides. He uses improper sources. He has not participated on the Talk page. He has taken an informed, well-researched biography, and reduced it to a critical, negative, one-sided, poorly sourced diatribe.

Biographies of Living Persons “must be written with the greatest care and attention to verifiability, neutrality, and avoidance of original research.” (WP:BLP) They “must not take sides, but should explain the sides, fairly and without bias. This applies to both what you say and how you say it.” (WP:NPOV) Contentious material about living persons…that is unsourced or poorly sourced…should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.” (WP:BLP)

“Questionable sources are those that…have an apparent conflict of interest…Avoid self-published sources….” (WP:V)

Edward Tobinick and Steven Novella are opposing litigants in a current lawsuit. It is taking sides (a violation of NPOV) to use Novella’s self-published blog, specifically a webpage that directly attacks Tobinick (http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/enbrel-for-stroke-and-alzheimers/ ), as a source in the biographical page, as Jmh649 does. Jmh649 also uses a defamatory CaseWatch page targeted at Tobinick as a source in the biographical page; it, too, is a one-sided, defamatory self-published blog, with which Novella is affiliated.

Further, the biographical page, as constructed by Jmp649, has had placed into it yet another source, an article in The Oklahoman (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-doctors-question-a-california-physicians-treatment-for-strokes/article/3576689 ) that also falsely targets Tobinick. This source is also defamatory and contains false and/or misleading statements of fact and/or opinion. It is also outdated, dating from 2011 and omits material facts; for example, it does not take mention nor take into account four randomized, double-blind clinical trials of etanercept, one for Alzheimer’s, three for neurological spine pain, that showed statistically significant clinical results in subjects who received etanercept vs. controls, all of which were completed after this source was published and have been detailed in my previous post on this Talk page. Jmh649 reverted (removed) the page edited by me that excluded this defamatory, outdated, and improper source. His improper reversion was clearly in violation of WP:BLP (Contentious material about living persons…that is unsourced or poorly sourced…should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.” (WP:BLP))

Positive articles about the subject of the biographical page (Tobinick) from leading news sources such as the BBC, or the International Business Times, have been removed by Jmh649 from the biographical page. Likewise, he has removed nearly all of the more than 20 peer-reviewed scientific articles that were formerly mentioned, and all reports of favorable placebo-controlled randomized clinical trials from the biographical page. What is left is negative opinion, poorly sourced on self-published blogs, and outdated, defamatory news items.

What is Jmp649’s justification for removing all of Dr. Tobinick’s professional affiliations, medical board specialty certifications, and relevant professional medical presentations from his biographical page? What is Jmp649’s justification for highlighting in the biographical page the webpage of another physician (Novella) who is the subject of a lawsuit by Dr. Tobinick specifically alleging the inclusion of false and defamatory statements of fact on the very webpages that Jmp649 highlights and hyperlinks to on his altered version of the biographical page?

The biographical page, as it stands in its current revision, is not an objective article, and the biographical page as revised by Jmp649 flagrantly violates Wikipedia guidelines for composing the biography of a living person. As a veteran Wikipedia administrator, Jmh649 should know better; this is intentional and reckless behavior. This is not compatible with core Wikipedia policies, including WP:BLP, WP:NPOV, etc. For these reasons Jmh649 should refrain from any further participation on this page, and I plan to revert all of his edits and restore the version that was in place prior to his participation. Additionally Jmp649 should be blocked from further reverts, edits, etc. by the WP:3RR rule. Rjwrjw100 (talk) 21:00, 18 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gotham1234 (talkcontribs) Gotham1234 (talk) 21:25, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Medical Translation Newsletter Aug./Sept. 2014

Medical Translation Newsletter
Issue 2, Aug./Sept. 2014
by CFCF

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Feature – Ebola articles

Electron micrograph of an Ebola virus virion

During August we have translated Disease and it is now live in more than 60 different languages! To help us focus on African languages Rubric has donated a large number of articles in languages we haven't previously reached–so a shout out them, and Ian Henderson from Rubric who's joined us here at Wikipedia. We're very happy for our continued collaboration with both Rubric and Translators without Borders!

Just some of our over 60 translations:
New roles and guides!

At Wikimania there were so many enthusiastic people jumping at the chance to help out the Medical Translation Project, but unfortunately not all of them knew how to get started. That is why we've been spending considerable time writing and improving guides! They are finally live, and you can find them at our home-page!

New sign up page!

We're proud to announce a new sign up page at WP:MTSIGNUP! The old page was getting cluttered and didn't allow you to speficy a role. The new page should be easier to sign up to, and easier to navigate so that we can reach you when you're needed!

Style guides for translations

Translations are of both full articles and shorter articles continues. The process where short articles are chosen for translation hasn't been fully transparent. In the coming months we hope to have a first guide, so that anyone who writes medical or health articles knows how to get their articles to a standard where they can be translated! That's why we're currently working on medical good lede criteria! The idea is to have a similar peer review process to good article nominations, but only for ledes.

Some more stats
Further reading


-- CFCF 🍌 (email) 13:09, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

New sign-up page for the Medical Translation Project

Hey!

This is a friendly reminder that the sign-up page at the Medical Translation Project (previously Translation Task force) has been updated. This means everyone has to sign up again. Using the new page it will be easier for us to get into contact with you when there is work available. Please check out our progress pages now! There might be work there already for you.

We are also very proud to introduce new roles and guides which allows people to help who don't have medical knowledge too!

Here are ways you can help!
Community organization
We need involved Wikipedians to engage the community on the different Wikipedias, and to spread the word!
Assessing content
We need language knowledgeable Wikipedians (or not yet Wikipedians) who indicate on our progress tables which articles should and should not be translated!
Translating
We are always on the look-out for dedicated translators to work with our content, especially in smaller languages!
Integration
Translated articles need to be integrated into local Wikipedias. This process is done manually, and needs to take merge or replace older articles.
Template installation
For translations to be more useful templates and modules should be installed. We need people with the technical know-how who can help out!
Programming
Several of our processes are in need of simplification and many could occur automatically with bots.

Please use the sign up page, and thank you guys for all the work you've been doing. The translation project wouldn't be possible without you!


-- CFCF 🍌 (email) 13:09, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Order of operations...

Hey Biosthmors, I've noticed your discussions regarding Ebola "cases" or "outbreak" in the US, and have commented on that RM at the article Talk page. Unfortunately here's what seems to have happened: You noticed the move from to previous "cases" to "outbreak", started to question it, and then started the RM discussion requesting a move from "outbreak" to "cases". This had the effect of making the assumption that the move from "cases" to "outbreak" had consensus in the first place, and that it was the move from "outbreak" to something else that required a move discussion. In my view this wasn't the right way to look at it, it was the move to "outbreak" that requires discussion. If that RM doesn't end up with a firm consensus, it has the effect of solidifying "outbreak" as the previous consensus. What would have been better to do, and would have been the proper thing, would have been to just move it back to "cases" per WP:BRD and then start the RM discussion moving to "outbreak". Per WP:NOTBUREAU it should be possible to just do that now anyway although it'll require more explanation. Zad68 15:25, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks User:Zad68. I figured I did something inefficient/unnecessary/wrong. Your summary makes sense, and I agree with your analysis. I tried moving it myself, but it was protected from that action. Thanks for the explanation. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 20:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Precious again

your first article simple
Thank you for quality articles on medicine such as Deep vein thrombosis, for pondering before doing, for reviewing and watching over medicine articles, for "your first article simple" and generously passing awards, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 614th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. I hope all is well Gerda Arendt. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 21:05, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
"All well" would be saying too much, "toxic" is not good, but music is, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Move request

Can you request a move, once again, for Ebola virus outbreak in the United States? Previous attempts have failed: first try and second try. Recent comments. Thanks. --Light show (talk) 00:12, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Ebola translation task force (draft)

Hi! I started an Ebola translation task force (draft) to hopefully quickly get some Ebola related translations in local African languages. I'd love to see your input (and edits) Guaka (talk) 12:10, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Anthony Ilott

Hi, I noticed there wasn't a link either, but I found Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Ilott. Since it was closed as a speedy delete, I don't think there should be an issue with recreating it as long as an assertion of notability is made. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 23:13, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Cosby

Hi I'm sorry if I'm being really stupid here but I don't see how my addition to the article is wrong, it seems to say what I read in the newspaper article (and I looked at another article while editing it). Shiningroad (talk) 17:04, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello Shiningroad. In your edit, where you said Ferringno said Cosby raped her, the headline highlights the problem. Ferrigno only said Cosby attempted sexual assault. She did not accuse him of rape. Another woman said Cosby raped her: Serignese. The article says that "Serignese ... said the now-beleaguered actor once gave her pills and raped her". I hope that helps. Best. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 20:12, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Shiningroad (talk) 08:29, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Publications

Hi, I noticed that you have removed publications in this edit. I was wondering if you were aware that a list of publications is even present on Albert Einstein article. Or he deserves special privilege? Like even such scientists as Grigori Perelman have certain research papers published here as well as Robert Hofstadter. Or is there something that I don't understand?--Mishae (talk) 08:01, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello Mishae. Other stuff will always exist, but when one looks in encyclopedias, one does not find laundry lists of publications for people. It's simply unencylopedic, in my opinion. I started the page Colin Mathers, for what it's worth. I would never include a list of his publications. I simply link to google scholar, which does. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 16:30, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
And the articles you cite all appear to use a selection critera and have short lists. The references I removed from Lainie Friedman Ross was simply a long list that dominated the layout of the article. I saw zero encyclopedic purpose. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 16:35, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
Then why some scientists do? Also, don't tell me that other stuff exists as I am a newbie, because I assure you I am not that new.--Mishae (talk) 23:36, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
Short, curated lists are sometimes desired. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 00:19, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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Nomination of Mark Tuan for deletion

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Shrooms

RE this, you may prefer that layout but you won't find many, if any, article like that at all. HalfGig talk 18:12, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I know. And I think it's a shame, HalfGig. Best. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 18:19, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
I think the current Marasmius siccus layout is easy on the eyes, FWIW. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 19:23, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
I disagree, it is not easy on the eyes and I'm pretty sure most of the community would agree with me. This is an encyclopedia, none flickr. Look at all the FAs on shrooms, not look like that. I also see no reason to get into a royal boil over it. HalfGig talk 19:49, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

salt and ice photos

did you/someone you know try the challenge to get those photos? (since you say own work) Gaijin42 (talk) 15:52, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

yes. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 18:49, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Amanda Anka for deletion

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I put this picture in the article. I took it about a week ago. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 16:29, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

I have re-weaked the article to match wiki plants method of style - includes a lead paragraphDavidAnstiss (talk) 14:30, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

That's great. Thanks again for your contributions DavidAnstiss. I'll have to upload a picture I recently took of Iris fulva. The only other thing I'd mention about your style that I think can be improved upon is to avoid wp:citation clutter. The article I have worked on most extensively is deep vein thrombosis (keep active to prevent DVT! =) — blood flow through the calves helps prevent blood clots). You'll notice there that I never have more than two inline citations at a time. That's my preferred method. Thanks again. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 16:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Lede

Your deletion of material from the lede here on the basis of your POV that it is not good for the lede is belied by wp:lede. This is perfectly appropriate for a lede. The lede serves as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important aspects. Of course, this -- which bears on motive -- is one of its most important aspects. --Epeefleche (talk) 07:42, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello Epeefleche. Unfortunately, I made a quick scan of the article and I thought it wasn't covered in the body, thus I thought its existence in the lead violated wp:lead. I'll note your use of the words "deletion", "POV", and your tone generally, come off, to me at least, as running counter to wp:agf. Sorry I have to say that. But I can't expect much from Wikipedia, I guess, generally speaking, unfortunately. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 15:19, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Next time, since your quick scan missed the material that drives home the fact that it complied with wp:lede, you might consider doing a word search within the body of a material word in what you are considering moving out of the lede. That will aid you in finding the material in the body, and avoid unfortunate improper moves like the above. Epeefleche (talk) 19:31, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Deletions

What are you thinking here? You deleted clearly material information. Such as the timing of the post. And that Baghdadi is an ISIS leader. And the fact that the declaration of allegiance related to the other gunman? Please ... other explain, or stop. This sort of editing is not helpful. --Epeefleche (talk) 19:29, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Epeefleche, I clearly didn't think it was important enough for the lead. There should have been no deletion as that is impossible from the lead. Content is in the body. The lead is a summary. What to put in the lead is an editorial decision. Unfortunately, I do not find your comments on my talk page beneficial for the project. Please refrain from ever posting here again. Thank you. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 17:44, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Well, I'll try to remember not to post here other than to give you a warning -- because we don't like to report editors to a noticeboard without having given them a warning, and their talk page is the place to do it. Please take this as a warning. The reason I am warning you is as follows. If I assume good faith, which of course is a rebuttable presumption -- one could conclude from your pattern of editing that you have rebutted the assumption -- then I have to assume extraordinarily poor judgment. Leading to disruptive editing. You don't think it is important enough for the lede that the attacker posted that information directly before the attack? That the attacker pledged allegiance to an ISIS leader? That he also did so on behalf of the other gunman? If you continue editing in this manner, my warning is that I will have to elevate this to a noticeboard to discuss your behavior. Best. Epeefleche (talk) 17:49, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I'm busy. I haven't read or thought about this yet. I'm sure I will later. But please stop posting here. I see you've already posted here once after I've asked you nicely to stop. Please don't post here again. I don't want to have to report you for such a silly thing as harassment. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 17:53, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

redlinks

I saw your comment here :). It is indeed an interesting idea, especially if we can make a list of redlinks, whether articles you want to create, or existing redlinks that you want to stub. Lets see how this would work :) Thanks for suggesting nice stuff.--Melamrawy (WMF) (talk) 11:08, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Redlink in lede

No addition to add a redlink in the lede of a person of questionable notability, as you did here. Especially in the lede -- let's not add a redlink unless there is confidence that the person is notable. --Epeefleche (talk) 04:12, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

reaching me

Hello, Biosthmors. :)

I've just seen your ping at village pump. I'm happy to see that User:Whatamidoing (WMF) stepped in there and helped you connect with the right staff person to talk to about that issue. I just wanted to let you know that I am not that often on Wikipedia with this account and so pings may generally not reach me quickly. I hope if you need me you will feel free to nudge me at my talk page. I'm happy to try to assist. :) --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 14:27, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

AfP

Hi. Sorry about getting rid of that redlink. I did an overhaul of the article, and inadvertently left that wikilink out. I have nothing against redlinks, since I think they help article creation. My apologies. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 03:44, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

No worries Onel5969. Thanks for the message. For what it's worth, it appears to me that an entire background section is warranted for the article. I imagine a paragraph could be devoted to summarizing its predecessor's work. Then I wonder about the split. Is there any good coverage of that? Or analysis on the differences afterwards? Etc. Etc. To me, the article kind of begs those questions. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 14:51, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
I think mentioning the split, and the reason for it is good enough. What I attempted to do in my restructuring of the article is to model it on other articles of advocacy groups, both from the left and right. Now it is in the range, albeit still a bit heavy, on the donors, etc. Anyway, thanks for understanding. Onel5969 TT me 19:31, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks bot. Fixed. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 14:37, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks Bagumba. I bet I knew that at one point! Best wishes. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 03:19, 3 August 2015 (UTC)