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Welcome![edit]

Hello, Blastprocessor, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially your edits to Western New England English. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

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Citing sources[edit]

Hi, Blastprocessor. I'd like to tell you a little about citing sources on Wikipedia, which I notice you seem inexperienced with. You tend to cite as follows: "Labov, William. Atlas of North American English." Here are some ways to improve this kind of citation:

  1. Give a full citation. The one above is not a complete citation -- You've neglected to mention the two other authors of this important research, the year, the publisher, etc.
  2. Give an exact page number. This is a huge 300-page study, so really page numbers are absolutely a requirement. Otherwise, you're actually misrepresenting the source. All 300 pages aren't about the one detail or topic you're giving information about. (This is one of the reasons [though there are others too] that I keep deleting information you use that you cite with this. Dropping in an enormous study is as helpful or specific as naming the whole New York Public Library as a source. It almost amounts to giving no source at all.)
  3. Directly after a punctuation mark (a comma, full-stop/period, semi-colon, etc.), place your source in the <ref> markup, leaving no space in-between the punctuation mark and the citation. I notice you leave little spaces or drop citations right in the middles of phrases frequently. This is not the custom on Wikipedia.
  4. Use Wikipedia's formatting style for citations as best as you can. See Wikipedia:Citing sources.

Thanks. Hope this is useful. Wolfdog (talk) 02:51, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Wolfdog: Feel free to correct those mistakes. I've seen various sources on wikipedia that link directly to websites where the information in stated, which is what I did for the ANAE link. I used it for my college paper. And my professor accepted it. I just wanted the part about Western New England being defined by a moderate advanced form of the Northern Cities Vowel Shift to be included. I myself am from Dalton, Massachusetts. This is why I'm interested in WNE English. I noticed this area started the shift, even if it's not as advanced as the Inland North region. I see no reason why we can't have a separate section for WNE and ENE english on the American English page. I've came across various sources that have stated this. Accents don't start or end at state lines or regional lines. Look at the Northeast or Midwest as examples. Blastprocessor (talk) 16:36, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's not as simple as asking him to correct those mistakes. If you're making them repeatedly (I'll leave that to your judgement), then it's on you to improve. Mr KEBAB (talk) 16:44, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I can't really comment now in full detail. I have a big exam this coming Monday. I've noticed various messsages in regards to this. Is there any way we can meet at half way or make some type of compromise @Wolfdog:? Will leave the WNE page the way you wanted it and leave the American English page the way I wanted it? I'd like to compromise of possible. Thank you. Blastprocessor (talk) 20:33, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I've already mentioned a way to compromise. Add Western New England information to the section about the Inland North and North Central. On the WNEE page, there's nothing really to compromise about; you've made mostly strangely sourced or redundant edits that I've mostly reverted. Wolfdog (talk) 02:58, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]