User talk:Bradvonck
November 2020[edit]
Hello, I'm Jerm. I noticed that you recently removed content from 2001 Mars Odyssey without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Jerm (talk) 02:08, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Please stop doing that. Please achieve consensus for your contested change before making it again. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:12, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
November 2020[edit]
Hello Bradvonck. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.
Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.
Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Bradvonck. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Bradvonck|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:27, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
User:Deepfriedokra I am a volunteer. I do not, and will not receive any financial compensation for my edits. I'm literally just trying to help as a passion project for planetary science.
- You are here at the behest of an outside entity. Please read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID. If you revert again, you may be blocked from editing. . You may discuss changes on the talk page. Your edits have been challenged and reverted. The ONUS is on you to gain WP:CONSENSUS for your changes. As you are PAID, you must not edit the article directly. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:34, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
User:Deepfriedokra I am not paid by anyone. Why do you keep saying that I am paid?
You wrote in your edit summary in order to justiify your edits,
Per a request from the Planetary Society's Director of Space Policy, Casey Dreier, I am working to reorganize the wiki page for the Odyssey Mission. We are requesting to merge the Overview Section into the Introduction, and I removed areas that were duplications....specifically the duplication of a reference to the record-breaking length of the mission.
If you benefit in any way, you need to read and heed WP:PAID. Clearly, you have a conflict of interest Please do not edit the article further. Please achieve consensus for your changes. Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:38, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
User:Deepfriedokra I read WP:COI and WP:PAID First, I am a volunteer for the Planetary Society. That means I am not getting paid, and will not get paid, period. So, I do not "benefit" in any way from this work. Furthermore, how does volunteering for PS make me a have a conflict of interest? It's a non-partisan group that supports planetary science.
Next, I disclosed this relationship. Which is something that is recommended but not required per the WP:PAID link. And I'm not even getting paid!!
Finally, if I'm somehow compromised from making edits because I am a volunteer, who has the right to make edits then?
I support the talk function and would use that, but I find it odd that I'm being singled out on an open-source platform, despite the fact that I have no financial ties and these edits were completely minimal in nature.
It is a disheartening experience to someone who is new to Wiki. Thank you for your time.
User:Deepfriedokra Following up on this again, my name is Brad, and I am a volunteer for the Planetary Society. I DO NOT receive any payment, special treatment, or compensation from this organization for said volunteering.
We are working to update and add information to the Wiki's of many planetary science missions. Odyssey is one of them.
Such actions include but are not limited to:
-improve the sourcing -clarifying language -adding photos and additional information (i.e. budget specifics for missions) -and otherwise do service for Wikipedia
Again, I am a volunteer who earnestly wants to help improve these resources. I have received pushback for trying to make edits without talking about them first with this team. I understand I am new and may make mistakes, but I am curious of the collective's opinion of ways in which you all recommend I proceed? Thank you for your time.