User talk:BradyStephenson

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Speedy deletion nomination of USC SoundCheck[edit]

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A tag has been placed on USC SoundCheck, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

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The page I created should not have been deleted. I created it for the group USC SoundCheck. It is an all-male a cappella group at the University of South Carolina. It has been around for eleven years. The UNC Clef Hangers have a Wikipedia page as do many other groups. I do not appreciate this deletion one bit BradyStephenson (talk) 04:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

{{subst:db-g8-notice|Talk:USC SoundCheck|nowelcome=yes|{{{key1}}}={{{value1}}}}} ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 15:36, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Other stuff exists. Just because the Clef Hangers have a page does not mean every college a cappella group should have one. Please review the notability criteria for musical groups. Additionally, please make sure the article is written in an encyclopedic style and not written as blatant promotion of the group. If you'd like, I can restore the most recent version of the article you attempted to create into your user space; you can work on it there with a much lower risk of deletion (although it can still be deleted for major issues like copyright infringement). —C.Fred (talk) 16:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I know that Fred. The group has been around for over ten years. It has over 100,000 views on YouTube. It has sang for celebrities like Babyface. I don't get why you are trying to get rid of the page. This is a legitimate group/organization, and all the references have checked out. BradyStephenson (talk) 16:15, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Which criteria of WP:BAND do they meet? It's a stretch to say they meet #7; I don't even see a clear assertion of that. —C.Fred (talk) 16:19, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They meet the following:

1 - been published in the State Newspaper "The State" (I am trying to find the online article)
7 - is the number one A Cappella group in the state of South Carolina. It has over 100,000 YouTube views along with more than 1300 Facebook fans. Compare this to other groups with Wikipedia pages such as the SoCal Vocals.

Other criteria will soon be met as this year begins. BradyStephenson (talk) 16:27, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Google hits, YouTube views, and other online metrics are generally not considered when it comes to Wikipedia's definition of notability. It would take some kind of a judged statewide contest—favorite a cappella group in a poll by The State or winner of a singing competition—to back the claim that they're the number one group in the state. —C.Fred (talk) 16:42, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 2011[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Usc soundcheck, a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, then you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Click here to contest this speedy deletion and appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 16:18, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This warning came about after a {{db-author}} template was removed, when BradyStephenson was the original editor. This may be the only time a page creator can remove a speedy delete tag. —C.Fred (talk) 16:27, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Usc soundcheck[edit]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Usc soundcheck, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Shirt58 (talk) 16:20, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This administrator has declined to speedy delete the article under criterion G11, spam and has removed that deletion tag accordingly; the article does not appear to be hopelessly promotional. That said, it could fall under criterion A7, a (music) group about which no assertion of significance or importance is made. Please make it clearer how they're a notable group or provide more reliable sources—above the level of the campus newspaper—that have given the group substantial coverage. —C.Fred (talk) 16:23, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I will try to find more references right now. BradyStephenson (talk) 16:29, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest[edit]

Hello BradyStephenson. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Usc soundcheck, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

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Why have I left this warning? It seems there's a first tenor in SoundCheck by the same name as this account. Again, having a conflict doesn't forbid you from editing the article; however, it requires you to be very careful about the neutrality of the text you add and to call on independent reliable sources wherever possible. —C.Fred (talk) 16:38, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good C.Fred. I am writing this with as little bias as possible. If I am needing more references for this page, I will get them. If we need more "notability", I will get that information. Thank you for your patience. Yes, I am that Tenor I. BradyStephenson (talk) 16:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, one little procedural note. On talk pages, it's usually best to indent replies by starting each paragraph with one or more colons. It provides an extra visual cue of where one comment ends and the next begins. No worries; it's something you'll pick up over time. —C.Fred (talk) 17:56, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of USC SoundCheck for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article USC SoundCheck is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/USC SoundCheck until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 17:25, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Safe place for USC SoundCheck[edit]

Hi Brady. Wow, you've done an excellent job on the USC SoundCheck article. Sorry for all the trouble you have gone through. Unfortunately a lot of articles on Wikipedia are deleted. A number of concerned users have built a safe haven for Wikipedia articles. I have copied your article to the safe place here. You are welcome to keep working on your article there without the threat of impending deletion over your head. All the best. Cogitating (talk) 04:24, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]