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Stray cats[edit]

Can you please delete these empty categories: Category:This day in horror, Category:Lighthouses portal, Category:Minnesota portal pages, Category:Minnesota portal, Category:Basketball portal, Category:Basketball portals, and Category:National Basketball Association portal. Thanks! I'll do a check of all the portals deleted during my absence to make sure there aren't any stray categories remaining and report back here with my findings. Newshunter12 (talk) 07:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Indian classical music portal, Category:Commonwealth Games Portal. The merge of Category:Motorsports portals to Category:Sports and games portals is not yet complete as the former category still exists. The delete result of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Social sciences (2nd nomination) from over a month ago was never fully carried out. Will continue looking for more. Newshunter12 (talk) 08:30, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Obsolete template Template:Globalization selected pages is the only entry in Category:Globalization portal. The delete result of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Atheism from September was never fully carried out, and likewise with the should be empty but isn't Category:Atheism portal. This one page is still in portal space, when the MfD result for Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Elbe–Weser triangle was a move to project space. Now that Portal:Zoos is gone, does the redirect Portal:Zoos/Wikimedia need to go to? I have now gone through the last of the portals deleted while I was on a break, so we're all caught up now. Newshunter12 (talk) 09:13, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Great work, @Newshunter12. I have done the first two batches, and will clean up the rest later.

And I'm sorry for not thanking you sooner for all your kindness. You have been right about a lot of things. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:18, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Empty:Category:Colonialism portal and Category:Star Wars portal. This cat, Category:Berlin portal, ought to be empty per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Berlin, but it isn't. I didn't give this one last time because I wasn't entirely sure what to do with it, but since the portal no longer exists, that stuff should not be linked to portal space anymore. You also passed over Category:This day in horror up above, although perhaps that category could serve as an aptly named journal or book title to document your time in portal-land.
Glad to hear you appreciate my work and statements, and that your great mind finds them worthwhile. You are very welcome. As you wade through the Wikipedia swamp, don't forget in the world about you: the sun's shining, birds are chirping across Ireland, there are books to be read, and loughs to visit. The sun will still rise tomorrow if you decide to remove your coat from the hook in Wikipedia's entry hall for the last time and move into your future without it. Newshunter12 (talk) 01:41, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for the checks, @Newshunter12.
I think that I have cleared everything on your helpful list, but please let me know if I have missed anything. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:11, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, BHG. You have now dealt with everything on my list. Given how many of these Easter Eggs I was able to find now and a few months ago, I think I ought to look over the MfD history to crosscheck the fate of the portals and categories deleted or not from just before my involvement began to the start of the cleanup effort in April(?). I know the overtly empty categories will very likely have been deleted, but as we have learned, a small but steady stream of stuff survived that shouldn't have. Wish me luck. Newshunter12 (talk) 01:02, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Empty:Category:Handball/Countdowns portal. Has normal articles listed as pages and should be empty (I will empty it for you since I can): Category:Machine learning portal, Category:New Spain portal. These redirects of random portal pages should not exist per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:North American railways. Is that not someone circumventing the MfD result? And the only railroad anything I could find on Portal:North America were two pictures. Same here - I found no trace of "Mughal" on Portal:History. Those redirects appear to be circumventing the outcome of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Mughal Empire without any justification. I will see what else I can dig up. Newshunter12 (talk) 04:02, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Empty: Category:Middle-earth portal. I did everything after April 14 (the day of your second mass batch), and only skipped Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/83 more navbox-based portals along the way. I think that's as far as is worth going. Goodness, just doing what I did was plain foul for the mind - I want to give you a hug of the greatest empathy for all your selfless work these many long months after just glimpsing first hand the slop you worked through before I got here. Out of curiosity, is it possible to delete as you have been defunct maintenance categories (I don't know anything about that type of cat) like this Category:Portal-Class Christmas articles? It was related to Portal:Christmas and there are many like it once tied to now deleted portals like Category:Portal-Class Bacon articles. If yes, I would be happy to supply you with the rest. Or does that stuff need to stay while portal space stays? Newshunter12 (talk) 08:19, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, @Newshunter12. There was a huge lot of wading through swamp. I personally opened ~500 portal MFDs, and posted long analyses in many hundreds more.
The likes of Category:Portal-Class Christmas articles are part of a huge set of tracking categories for WP 1.0 assessments. Many of them fluctuate between empty and not-empty, on timescales which may be long or short, so to avoid pointless cycles of deletion/re-creation I usually tag them {{Possibly empty category}}, as I have done here.[1] I think that User:Liz is more inclined than me to delete such empty assessment categories and maybe she has thoughts to share.
In this case there is a huge set of ~1,490 such cats at Category:Portal-Class articles, of which (at a glance) >80% are empty. I am inclined to leave them as is, unless and until there is some stable consensus on the future of portals. They are a cleanup issue which doesn't need to be resolved now. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the info. Now that I understand them, I agree they should be dealt with later only if the time is right regarding portals at large. Wishing you all the best with your stressful personal situation. Newshunter12 (talk) 09:04, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Empty:Category:Narnia portal. Newshunter12 (talk) 15:26, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, BHG. Could you please put together a CfD nom to merge Category:Design portal (sole contents Category:Gardening portal) to Category:Arts portals and Category:Biology portals; Category:Science fiction portals (sole contents Portal:Doctor Who) to Category:Entertainment portals and Category:Literature portals; Category:Speculative fiction portals (sole contents Category:Speculative fiction portal and Category:Science fiction portals) to Category:Literature portals.

Not sure how it would be best to do it, but we presently have four cats for Korea, which should be condensed: Category:Korea portal, Category:Korea-related portals, Category:South Korea portal, and Category:North Korea portal. Perhaps the two country cats could be sent to Category:Asian portals and Category:Portals by country, the other two deleted? Category:Caribbean Community portal still exists with a few contents, but the result of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Caribbean Community was redirect to Portal:Caribbean. Can any of this be reduced? Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Agriculture closed as delete and redirect to Portal:Agriculture and agronomy, which was later itself renamed to Portal:Agriculture. So Category:Agriculture and Agronomy portal and the still used Category:Agriculture and agronomy portal should logically be renamed into a Category:Agriculture portal. Thank you for any help you can provide. I have never put together a CfD before (or any multiple page nom), so I think it is best to leave it in your experienced and talented hands. Newshunter12 (talk) 05:45, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration Case Opened[edit]

You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Portals. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Portals/Evidence. Please add your evidence by December 20, 2019, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Portals/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, SQLQuery me! 20:26, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi BrownHairedGirl. You've probably already seen, but since it looks like we didn't notify you already, a temporary injunction involving you has been proposed in the Portals case here. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 01:29, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Kevin. I have left a comment[2] at WT:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Portals/Proposed_decision#Injunction. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:32, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:All Wikipedia vital articles in People/Politicians and leaders[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:All Wikipedia vital articles in People/Politicians and leaders requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:12, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Wikipedia level-5 vital articles in People/Politicians and leaders[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Wikipedia level-5 vital articles in People/Politicians and leaders requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:13, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@UnitedStatesian: there were many dozens of these categories which appeared as redlinks in Special:WantedCategories. I created them to fill those redlinks. The whole categorisation of VAs is a mess, and i made some efforts to sort it out, but it's really just too complex to be sustainable without a huge lot of work. If you have time, it needs a big overhaul. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:18, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 29 November 2019[edit]

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The Rock[edit]

Hi, Much Love as a friend, Can you tell those guys that it's all true that in 2019, The Rock did appear on The Kelly Clarkson show, because of how the day Kevin Hart was involved in a car crash, Kevin Hart Texted The Rock and The Rock texted Kevin Hart, and offered to fill in for Kevin Hart to promote their movie, please? [[Telley~~]] (talk) 01:59, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TelleyTell
Sorry, but I have no idea at all what you are talking about, or why it should concern me. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:00, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Do you have an Instagram account? I ask so I can show you in the morning a few pictures of proof WWE Wrestler The Rock did appear on The Kelly Clarkson show that day, so I can tell you everything on that true story how he and Kevin Hart Texted each other and Rock ended up Appearing on The Kelly Clarkson show. [[Telley~~]] (talk) 11:36, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Do you have an Instagram account so I can show you something reguarding The Rock? [[Telley~~]] (talk) 11:38, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • @TelleyTell: a) I keep discussion about Wikipedia on Wikipedia; b) Instagram is not a reliable source; c) I have zero interest in wrestling.
So I have no idea why you are telling me about this. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:54, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration motion regarding Portals (temporary injunction)[edit]

The Arbitration Committee has resolved by motion that:

BrownHairedGirl (talk · contribs) and Northamerica1000 (talk · contribs) are prohibited from editing in the Portal: namespace or engaging in discussions about portals, with the exception of arbitration case pages, until this case is concluded.

For the Arbitration Committee, CodeLyokotalk 03:50, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Arbitration motion regarding Portals (temporary injunction)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2019[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2019).

Administrator changes

added EvergreenFir • ToBeFree
removed Akhilleus • Athaenara • John Vandenberg • Melchoir • MichaelQSchmidt • NeilN • Youngamerican • 😂

CheckUser changes

readded Beeblebrox
removed Deskana

Interface administrator changes

readded Evad37

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • The global consultation on partial and temporary office actions that ended in October received a closing statement from staff concluding, among other things, that the WMF will no longer use partial or temporary Office Action bans... until and unless community consensus that they are of value or Board directive.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:47, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Murnoy[edit]

Hi there BrownHairedGirl, Thank you for creating an entry for my great uncle Peter Murney. You have him dow as Peter Murnoy though - I corrected what I could within the text of the article, but the article heading is still Murnoy - can't change it - can you?

Many thanks Oisin Plunkett — Preceding unsigned comment added by O Plunkett (talk • contribs) 21:41, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Oisin
The reliable sources all list him as "Murnoy", including on page 61 of the scholarly work Walker, Brian M., ed. (1978). Parliamentary election results in Ireland, 1801–1922. Dublin: Royal Irish Academy. ISBN 0-901714-12-7.
Wikipedia's standard is verifiability in reliable sources: See WP:Verifiability, so I have reverted[3] your edit, and added Walker as a source.[4]
I assume that you are writing in good faith, i.e. that you are who you say you are, and that you are genuinely stating what you know of your family. However, that counts as original research, which Wikipedia has no way of verifying.
I can't find other uses of the surname "Murnoy", and there are no Murnoys in the Eircom phonebook, I am personally persuaded that you are right. However, that's just my original research, which also carries no weight.
To change this, we would need reliable sources showing his name spelt as "Murney". Contemporaneous newspaper reports would be one such reliable source, if you can get access to them. I used to have access through the British Newspaper Archive, but sadly they discontinued their collaboration with Wikipedia. I do have access to the archive of The Times newspaper in London, but I can't find any coverage there of the Northern Ireland election. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:30, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Dermatologists from Northern Ireland[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Dermatologists from Northern Ireland requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Category:Computer science in Bangladesh has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Computer science in Bangladesh, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 15:32, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Fictional Australian people of American descent[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Fictional Australian people of American descent requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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"Wikipedia:RFD/2018 November 18" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:RFD/2018 November 18. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:RFD/2018 November 18 redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. ComplexRational (talk) 22:09, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Franklin Pierce Ravens men's soccer players[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Franklin Pierce Ravens men's soccer players requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Franklin Pierce Ravens men's soccer coaches[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Franklin Pierce Ravens men's soccer coaches requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:31, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Congress#Lists of living former members[edit]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Congress#Lists of living former members. —GoldRingChip 15:01, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thought of you while watching UK general election television coverage[edit]

Hi @BrownHairedGirl:,

I thought of you a couple times while watching BBC's and Bloomberg's (I switched back and forth) coverage of the UK general election results. I assume you probably voted, but was curious which electoral district you were in (you don't have to say if you don't want to).

Northern Ireland fascinates me, particularly how the Sinn Fein party now holds 7 seats that they won't take up because, I guess, they don't want to have pledge allegiance to the Queen. But it made me wonder, the whole frakas over the Irish border vis-à-vis Brexit, why didn't the UK just offer to have the Republic of Ireland absorb Northern Ireland? Northern Ireland is most likely a net cost to the UK anyway and, with relative peace in Northern Ireland for nearly twenty years now, I wonder if even the unionists might support that to be able to stay in the EU?

Cheers,
--Doug Mehus T·C 03:07, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Irish dermatologists[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Irish dermatologists requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:25, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Djiboutian expatriate sportspeople in France[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Djiboutian expatriate sportspeople in France requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:28, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello[edit]

I have been very busy in my personal life for the past few weeks and so have been absent from Wikipedia, but am now adding my evidence to the ARBCOM case. I turn my back for a little while, and I see you have been topic banned from portals for now. Shakes head. Such a naughty girl, I see. What are we going to do with you... Did your stressful personal situation work out? How have you been? Newshunter12 (talk) 13:44, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Newshunter12
Luckily, my personal crisis was resolved. It took a while to unravel, but I got there eventually. Bad for the nerves, though, so I hadn't the stomach for the Arbcom case. I may put some evidence together in the next few days, or I may just say "sod it". Thanks for taking the time to submit your evidence.
Arbcom has in its great wisdom decided to temporarily ban me from portal discussions to prevent me from "disruptive" conduct as my analysis[5] of Portal:Painting. It seems that conduct such as being the only person to spot that the portal is pure spam was not the sort of thing which should continue. Hey ho.
Best wishes, --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:52, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You're very welcome. If you're feeling tired but want to contribute, an easy low-hanging fruit way to do so is to just transfer the information from your opening statement into the evidence section, with a few modifications. You already did a great break down of the situation there, so not much more is needed. NA1K hasn't added their evidence yet.
I'd rather not comment on the ARBS while the case is ongoing, but yeah, I understand your frustrations. It's part of why I encouraged you to think about leaving portals or Wikipedia behind, as I don't think it's what's best for you personally. It seems to have turned out so far pretty much like I feared your Wikipedia experience was heading - ending up broken like Frodo. All things considered, we've come all this way in portal space that I think you ought to post some evidence (drop and go is fine - it's not like ANI where you have to discuss for it to work), so that whatever happens, you at least know you were in the right. It's not quite time for goodbye yet :) But yeah, other then working/talking with you, I haven't missed Wikipedia these past few weeks myself. Newshunter12 (talk) 14:44, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Greek people of Saudi Arabian descent[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Greek people of Saudi Arabian descent requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Userpage question from Elshad[edit]

Is this sentence appropriate for a user page? I think Brexit is a catastrophe and I hope that Britain will one day rejoin the EU. . The user page is User:Elshad. Please ping me in your reply. Interstellarity (talk) 16:33, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is anything against it. After all, a user page belongs to the user. But if anyone objects to it I will delete it. Elshad (talk) 16:37, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Elshad
It is just a brief statement of viewpoint, so it seems to me to fall on the right side of WP:UP#POLEMIC. Personally, I'd prefer not to have any such political statements, but the community has tended to tolerate them so long as they are brief and don't denigrate anyone, and your page meets those tests.
However, I do suggest that you consider this: the core purpose of Wikipedia is to create a WP:NPOV encyclopedia. Most userpages describe the editor's expertise and areas of interest, and some of their contributions. An editor who uses their userpage simply to make a statement of POV is sending out a signal that they may be more interested in pushing a political agenda than in upholding WP:NPOV. So I suggest that you reflect on whether that's how you want other editors to see you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:48, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I will take this into consideration. Elshad (talk) 16:49, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Data[edit]

You sent me a message, or the software did, about something called "Wiki Data." The message did not explain what this is, nor what I should do about it. Thanks for helping. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 18:44, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BeenAroundAWhile
Sorry about that, but I have no idea what caused this. I very rarely bother with WikiData. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:02, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2019 in Somaliland[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:2019 in Somaliland requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Beer in Bangladesh[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Beer in Bangladesh requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Philippines–Samoa relations[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Philippines–Samoa relations requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Polish people of Finnish descent[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Polish people of Finnish descent requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Cereals in Bangladesh[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Cereals in Bangladesh requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of 137.89.228.215[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of 137.89.228.215 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Israeli male bobsledders[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Israeli male bobsledders requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Space probes launched in 2017[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Space probes launched in 2017 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taiwan election result templates[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Taiwan election result templates requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Category:Wikipedians confined to the peanut gallery has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Wikipedians confined to the peanut gallery, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Gonnym (talk) 19:43, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Kosovan expatriates in Wales[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Kosovan expatriates in Wales requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Uzbekistani expatriates in the United Kingdom[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Uzbekistani expatriates in the United Kingdom requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Samoan expatriate sportspeople in the United Arab Emirates[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Samoan expatriate sportspeople in the United Arab Emirates requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina biologists[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina biologists requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:BattleTech character redirects to lists[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:BattleTech character redirects to lists requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Sevared Records artists[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Sevared Records artists requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Season's Greetings[edit]

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:40, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas![edit]

Happy Christmas to you!


A BIG thank you for your help all these days. Here's my best wishes for a wonderful christmas and happy holidays. May peace, happiness and prosperity follow you always!

Warm regards,

Lakshmisreekanth (talk) 07:13, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Happy holidays[edit]

Oh! The indignities some of us have to suffer during the festive season ......... happy XMAS BrownHairedGirl Coolabahapple (talk) 16:19, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"St. Mirren disambiguation" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect St. Mirren disambiguation. Since you had some involvement with the St. Mirren disambiguation redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. DannyS712 (talk) 01:20, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck[edit]

豊かな十年へようこそ/WELCOME TO THE D20s

Miraclepine wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade of change and fortune.
このミラPはBrownHairedGirlたちのメリークリスマスも新年も変革と幸運の豊かな十年をおめでとうございます！
フレフレ、みんなの未来！/GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FUTURE!
ミラP 02:59, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wishing...[edit]

A very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to my favorite Brown haired Irish girl Wikipedian! I know, it was a hard choice, but of all the many people I know in the extensive category of Brown haired Irish girl Wikipedians, I chose you to wish well. A great honor, no doubt. Have a terrific day! Newshunter12 (talk) 07:45, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Belated Merry Christmas[edit]

I see that Cmdr. Wikipetan is already standing watch on your home page. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:36, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 27 December 2019[edit]

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Category:Algeria sports-related lists has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Algeria sports-related lists, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Iketsi (talk) 05:44, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American Samoa sports-related lists has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:American Samoa sports-related lists, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Iketsi (talk) 05:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Angola sports-related lists has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Angola sports-related lists, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Iketsi (talk) 05:59, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Antigua and Barbuda sports-related lists has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Antigua and Barbuda sports-related lists, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Iketsi (talk) 06:00, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bolivia sports-related lists has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Bolivia sports-related lists, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Iketsi (talk) 06:01, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Brazil sports-related lists has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Brazil sports-related lists, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Iketsi (talk) 06:10, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:British Virgin Islands sports-related lists has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:British Virgin Islands sports-related lists, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Iketsi (talk) 06:10, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Brunei sports-related lists has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Brunei sports-related lists, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Iketsi (talk) 06:11, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Burundi sports-related lists has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Burundi sports-related lists, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Iketsi (talk) 06:11, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Paralympic alpine skiers of Finland[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Paralympic alpine skiers of Finland requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Argentine expatriate sportspeople in Cuba[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Argentine expatriate sportspeople in Cuba requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1954 in Singaporean sport[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:1954 in Singaporean sport requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Articles containing Southern Kurdish-language text[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Articles containing Southern Kurdish-language text requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Happy New Year![edit]


George Bellows, North River (1908), Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts. 		Best wishes for a healthy and prosperous 2020.
Thank you for your contributions toward making Wikipedia a better and more accurate place.
BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:03, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – January 2020[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2019).

Guideline and policy news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

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Happy First Edit Day![edit]

Happy First Edit Day!

Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 00:33, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SWC bits[edit]

Hi, hope all's well. The SWC team have had a bit of a purge and almost cleaned out the backlog, but there's a couple that could do with an admin. Can you edit user scripts? Category:Foo is currently occupied by User:Unit388/popups.js thanks to a passing comment in line 7031, but Unit388 hasn't been editing since May 2017. There's also a couple of user categories that could do with attention... Le Deluge (talk) 21:33, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

hi @Le Deluge. Long time no speak; I hope you are well.
I had seen that the backlog at Special:WantedCategories had grown again, but I hadn't the energy myself to do more than nibble at it. So congrats to those of you who have levelled the mountain.
I used to be able to edit user scripts, but that was changed about two years again some reconfiguration of admin rights. I think I did find some place to ask others to fix them, but can't remember where. I suggest trying WP:VPT.
I have tackled a few of the usercats. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:25, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
SWC is now looking a lot happier (for the time being...), at least it's got the decade off to a good start even if I probably won't be able to keep an eye on it going forward. Thanks to any lurkers here who helped out, it really is a case of many hands making light work. I got the script sorted thank you. Le Deluge (talk) 15:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's good news, @Le Deluge.
Special:WantedCategories look wonderfully clean. I see you got the script problem fixed by a request at WP:RFPP], which is great. Sorry that I didn't think of that. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:31, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020[edit]

Hello BrownHairedGirl/Archive,

Source Guide Discussion

The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.

Redirects

New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.

Discussions and Resources
Refresher

Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Rina (singer) albums[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Rina (singer) albums requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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MfD nomination of Draft:Central South Slavic[edit]

Draft:Central South Slavic, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Central South Slavic and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:Central South Slavic during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. —Anomalocaris (talk) 21:12, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:CS Minaur Baia Mare footballers[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:CS Minaur Baia Mare footballers requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Current Zimbabwean MPs[edit]

Template:Current Zimbabwean MPs has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 22:32, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Politics of Lorraine[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Politics of Lorraine requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Hullbridge Sports F.C. managers[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Hullbridge Sports F.C. managers requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Tim Curry songs[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Tim Curry songs requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Proposed deletion of Atlantic Quarter[edit]

Notice

The article Atlantic Quarter has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

This development will never be built. The developer has gone into administration, the land has been sold off, and planning permission for the proposals expired in 2019.

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@Cardiffbear88: I have WP:DEPRODed the article, for the reasons set out in my edit summary[6]. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:41, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Olympic template[edit]

I was wondering if you would go to this template and fix the "2020" so that it is no longer showing Italicised. Being 2020, it can now be shown normal. Thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Summer_Olympics_by_year_category_navigation Johnsmith2116 (talk) 12:09, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnsmith2116: Done[7]. Thanks for the nudge! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:16, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks and you're welcome. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 12:17, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redaction request[edit]

Would you be able to redact this edit for which I have an OTRS ticket Ticket:2020011710007574 request? ww2censor (talk) 14:55, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ww2censor: No prob. It's done. Happy new year! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:00, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AWB cannot find csc.exe[edit]

Hi BrownHairedGirl, just wondered whether you managed to find a solution to the AWB problem ("Can't find csc.exe") you flagged in October 2019 here? My AWB has just started giving the same error message after I moved to Windows 10. Best regards — Hebrides (talk) 09:34, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hebrides
'Fraid not. I have two Windows 10 machines, and my main one is fine. It runs AWB without that problem.
The problem arose when my main machine broke, and had to use my backup Win 10 machine. It has similar hardware, but has the csc.exe problem. I tried all the suggestions at that thread, but none worked.
I am OK again now, because I fixed my main machine, but the backup is still as it was in October.
I have a suspicion that my backup machine (a laptop which I bought secondhand) may have been upgraded to Win 10 from an previous version of Win. It has no problems in any other respect, but I wonder if the upgrade process is the source of this error.
It's a great pity, 'cos even for a very amateur programmer like me, custom modules make AWB a vastly more powerful tool. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi BrownHairedGirl and thanks for your reply. I'm pleased to say that my error message problem is now solved, thanks to an explanation by Rjwilmsi – see the thread here. It's a .NET version problem, and as soon as I got past the AWB error message by editing a copy of the AWB settings file and removing the module code, when I relaunched AWB, Windows 10 offered to download and install the version of .NET that was needed. Once that was done, AWB loaded my unedited settings file with its C# module and everything is working. I agree that Custom Modules are an amazing way of extending the functionality of AWB. Hope that works for you too. Best wishes — Hebrides (talk) 23:36, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there[edit]

left|thumb|300px|P.O. mural in Rifle, Colorado Hey BrownHairedGirl you pinged me a few times, and I am sorry for not replying more quickly! I am flattered that you follow my work sometimes, but really it isn't necessary to ping me if I have made a typo in my writing or my usage of categories. Please don't bother with that! :) thumb|450px|Historic house built by Mormon pioneers in Utah, 20-40 years after their arrival in Bluff, Idaho Anyhow, perhaps you'll enjoy some of my relatively recent photos? Have a nice day, :) --Doncram (talk) 01:29, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Doncram, your comment is at best disingenuous, and might be better described as dishonest.
As you know very well — because we have had this discussion many times before — I do not follow [your] work. I sometimes cleanup Special:WantedCategories, which is routinely cluttered with entries created by you adding articles to categories which do not exist, and which need to be fixed. For example, from yesterday: [8], [9], [10], [11].
A typo is a few characters out of place, but none of those is a typo. Each one of them is a more substantive error.
And in every case, the errors are readily visible as errors: the categories show up as redlinks at the bottom of the page, so they are clearly visible to you when you have edited the page. No need for careful proof-reading; just look for the red text.
But you know all this. We have been over it many times before, and you have been blocked for it before. So I count your post here as trolling. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

pro forma Notice of noticeboard discussion[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepfriedokra (talk • contribs) 11:29, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Decision Published[edit]

Hi BrownHairedGirl. The Portals proposed decision has been posted. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 17:06, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your input is requested[edit]

at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Community view before Friday.

Only 100 or so words. It should be fun and serious at the same time.

All the best,

Smallbones(smalltalk) 23:54, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Smallbones
Thanks v much for the invite ... but what exactly am I being asked to write about? I could sound off on any one of a zillion topics, but is this a whatever-you-want slot, or do you have some requirements?
The deadline is very tight, but if you can clarify your intent, then I may be able to help. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:13, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's pretty well explained on the page. Pick what you think is "The most important article created since NOvember 1, 2015" (i.e. in "the last million"). "Most important" is purely subjective. There are plenty of examples on that page. Thanks, Smallbones(smalltalk) 00:16, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Smallbones. I wasn't sure whether you were looking for a new article, or a nomination to this one. I'll see if I can put something together. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:09, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Smallbones. I have added[12] Matrilineal society of Meghalaya. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:37, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that shows Wikipedia at its best, my favorite so far! Smallbones(smalltalk) 14:29, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it really is great stuff. I's my favourite example of what these collaborations can achieve. Congratulations to the article's creators @Nvvchar and Rosiestep for their hard work. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:38, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my gosh, BHG, thank you for nominating this one. I remember working on it with Nvvchar. Hey, Smallbones, I had had the same question as BHG regarding which article to nominate. I will give this some more thought today. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:20, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You're very welcome, @Rosiestep. I hope that it will encourage more WIR editors to bring articles through the GA or FA process. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:33, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help request[edit]

Hi BHG. I was also asked by Smallbones to post at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Community view, but I don't know how. Could you please add the 2017 Laurence Olivier Awards for me? My description is this: These awards are important because Harry Potter and the Cursed Child had a record 11 nominations and a record 9 wins, which demonstrates to all on Wikipedia and beyond that the childhood dreams of countless millions can be shattered to thunderous applause by those who look no deeper then flashy effects and big names. How to grapple with realties far from what we imagined is a skill all who come to Wikipedia must learn to cope with in life, since for good or evil, rightly or wrongly, life never does turn out quite how we imagined it. -NH12 (Added March 2017).

Thank you for any help you can provide! Newshunter12 (talk) 17:18, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Newshunter12, but I can't help here.
I have already made my nomination,[13] and I wasn't invited to add two. I'm also much more interested in topics which aren't so widely covered elsewhere, whereas Harry Potter is part of the range of topics which are widely covered on en.wp due to Wikipedia:Systemic bias. And for various reasons, I am not a fan of HP.
Best wishes, --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:23, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks anyway. I was able to add it myself. Newshunter12 (talk) 17:35, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The case clearly has not gone as we had hoped it would and as I believe the facts dictated. I wish you all the best in your life, BHG, whatever you choose to do. Newshunter12 (talk) 01:14, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on proceedings[edit]

Listen to the good advice I'm giving you. I am not adverse to your interests. I know you don't agree. Just give it a try and give it time. Jehochman Talk 16:56, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message, @Jehochman. But what advice where? Sorry, but there's a lot happening right now, and it seems I have missed something. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:04, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Having read the case proposals and talk pages today, the issue that comes up in lights (again and again from ArbCom members), is a concern that while you are a great editor (and admin), will you go to DEFCON 1 in situations where you (believe, and/or) are right, but where it would violate WP:54. They are seeing you appealing their findings because you believe that were right re the subject matter, and that this is an implicit justification for incivility; however, this is where some stop listening to you, and are concerned you don't see this. Britishfinance (talk) 19:40, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Britishfinance, I gave them this[14], which I hope will set address concerns that I would respond again in the same way. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:25, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That was kindof it, but buried in a larger section saying "I was still right", so it gets lost. You need a new section at the bottom of the TP with just a few lines only focused on clarifying above (with minimal, if any, caveats). It must convince the most suspect of them that you (1) recognize the fault, and (2) will never (ever) repeat it. Britishfinance (talk) 21:40, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Britishfinance, thanks again for your feedback. I just posted this.[15]. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:08, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think that is a good clarification BHG; the third sentance in item 4. is I think unnecessary (side-track things), and should be replaced by a sentance clarifying your sentiments in the TP/elsewhere, that you will be using community involvement/input (e.g. ANI/RfC etc.), to address those types of issues you might have with editors. Britishfinance (talk) 23:36, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, @Britishfinance. It's late now, and I am tired. I will look at this again in the morning, but my inclination is to run with what I have written rather than to polish it further. Part of the reason for putting things the way I did is that in my experience ANI is much less effective at dealing with complex patterns of behaviour than with single incidents (or small sets). The old WP:RFC/U process lacked follow-through (which is why it was abolished), but its structured format was much better adapted to examining complexity than the free-format pile-in environment of ANI. -BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You have a good consolidated statement of your position BHG, and can do no more. Wikipedia has always been an "average of things", rather than a "perfection of things"; and it seems to have defeated all attempts to make otherwide. However, I am sure Mr. Encyclopedia Britannicia felt 20 years ago that his product was perfect (at it probably was at that point), but now he is on the street with a tin cup; so in WP's averageness is the power of a community, its unexpected strength. Britishfinance (talk) 00:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
True, BF. I you'd told me 25 years ago that EB would toasted, I wouldn't have believed you, even tho my work was internet-based from the mid-90s. Poor old EB seller.
Yes, as a crowd-sourced work, en.wp will always be a work in progress, and perfection is not gonna happen. But the successes of the community model shouldn't blind us to its failings. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:23, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The bit that some people miss is the exceptional persistence of the issues I encountered, which eventually caused me to snap and to start using blunt terms to describe what I encountered. I accept the clear decision by ArbCom that my response was unacceptable. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
They are missing all of that part because they are not willing to look through the wall of incivility (which grew tall), until you clarify, unambiguously, that you were wrong, and that you will never behave in such a way again, even if you believe you are right (is a fear that some have). Explicit reassurance from you at the talk page would help those who might be inclined to take your long-standing contribution into account in forming a final view; some are clearly not sure whether this is a risk worth taking, as you have given them nothing. Britishfinance (talk) 20:56, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
BrownHairedGirl and Britishfinance, I agree that BHG is often very blunt in her responses, and she certainly lacks passion. I think sometimes her frustration is expressed, perhaps, in the not the best way. That said, I also think that people tend to take WP:CIVIL too literally. The fact that BHG can argue with you passionately, sometimes in ways others would regard as aggressive, and then resume normal dialogue like buddies suggests to me she is, fundamentally, a rational, civil person. Doug Mehus T·C 21:02, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is that you might be demoted from administrator status if you don’t show more willingness to consider the possibility that you were in the wrong. Now is not the time for defiance. Jehochman Talk 21:07, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jehochman, I do hope that doesn't happen. If that were to happen, I, and presumably at least a few other editors, would leave the project cold turkey. It raises an interesting question, though, can ArbCom decisions be appealed? Doug Mehus T·C 21:17, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) @Jehochman, believe me, I have examined and re-examined this many times. I stand by my analysis of what I saw, but I have clearly stated at the talk page that I accept ArbCmom's decision that my response was not acceptable, and give as clear an assurance as I can that I will not respond in that way again. See [16]. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:21, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom is not appealable and threats to leave are never taken into account. The Committee will do what they feel is necessary. Editors aren’t sanctioned for being wrong; they are sanctioned for being excessively persistent and arguably wrong. Jehochman Talk 21:22, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BHG, that’s a good theme. Stay on that message. To avoid a possible relapse say that you will avoid the topic where the problem occurred. All of us have areas where we may lose our cool. That’s okay. We just need to avoid those areas. Jehochman Talk 21:25, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Five thousand drops of rain[edit]

I hope this message doesn't rub you the wrong way, but I believe that sometimes being a friend means telling someone a hard truth. It took me the better part of a year to figure out that while it's worth volunteering my time to create a web page or improve a web page, life is far too short to worry too much about what kinds of web pages other people are creating. There are just way too many people and way too many web pages–it's like trying to catch all the rain. We have six million articles and you've just spent a year of your life rather focused on five thousand of them–five thousand of the least-read pages on all of Wikipedia, perhaps the bottom 0.08%. Meanwhile, there are other pages that have millions of annual readers; frankly, they need you more than the portals. I gave up on portal cleanup because I realized that if I didn't, I was going to end up more or less where you are now–having lost my patience and having to suffer the consequences of it. I'm sorry this has gone the way it has, but I think in the end you will view your decision to step away from portals not as a self-restriction but as a liberation. – Levivich 03:06, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @Levivich. I have no doubt that you are right about what are the right steps for me, and that I should have followed the similar advice which others have in the second half of last year.
The reason I didn't do so is simply that there was a problem which few wanted to tackle, and I didn't see how it would resolved if everyone opted for self-preservation.
Ultimately, this is a systemic issue. The process of removing junk is so onerous and so easily gamed by those muddying the waters that as you found, it places an intolerable burden on those doing the cleanup. The system has evolved to a point where persisting with cleanup appears to be a suicide path.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and it deserves better than a content control process so heavily biased against cleanup. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


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Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Portals Closed[edit]

An arbitration case regarding Portals has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

  • BrownHairedGirl is prohibited from editing in the Portal: namespace or engaging in discussions about portals anywhere on Wikipedia. She may appeal this restriction in six months.
  • BrownHairedGirl is indefinitely restricted from interacting with or commenting about Northamerica1000 anywhere on Wikipedia, subject to the ordinary exceptions. This restriction may be appealed in six months.
  • For numerous violations of basic policies and generally failing to meet community expectations and responsibilities as outlined in Wikipedia:Administrators#Accountability and Wikipedia:Administrators#Administrator conduct, BrownHairedGirl is desysopped. She may regain the administrative tools at any time via a successful request for adminship.
  • The Arbitration Committee recommends that a well-publicized community discussion be held to establish a guideline for portals. The committee further recommends that this RfC be kept open for at least 30 days, be closed by a panel of 3 uninvolved administrators, and at a minimum address the following questions:
  • Topics: How broad or narrow should a topic area be for it to sustain a portal?
  • Page views: Should there be a minimum number of page views for a portal to be considered viable? How should those page views be measured?
  • WikiProjects: Should portals be required to be connected to an active WikiProject or other group of maintainers?
  • Updates: How often should a portal be updated?
  • Automation: Can automated tools be used in the creation or maintenance of portals?
  • Links to portals: How should portals be used? Should they be linked on all relevant Wikipedia articles, or should another method be used to ensure that portals are viewed and used?

For the Arbitration Committee, SQLQuery me! 21:55, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Portals Closed

Bugrit[edit]

This is not a good outcome. As usual, I agree with Newyorkbrad. Guy (help!) 00:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Guy. But the fat lady hasn't actually sung yet. We'll see what the final songsheet says. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
BrownHairedGirl, not a fan of Wagnerian sopranos. Especially now. Guy (help!) 22:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please Help with inappropriate Discussion for Deletion[edit]

Hi Brown Hair Girl!

You helped with a recent edit for categorizing article: Lesa Wislon and I am very NEW and don't edit on her ever, so this was VERY helpful. To give you a backstory: My client: Lesa Wilson is an actress and model based in the Atlanta-area. Her credits span from DC's Doom Patrol, Bluff City Law, STAR, Necessary Roughness to her most recent, DC's StarGirl debuting on the CW Network Spring 2020. So I went to Wiki editing to ensure she was categorized as an actress instead and updated a filmography chart for reference plus updated photo instead of the 2006 pageant head-shot.

THIS WAS NOT A PAID PROMOTION/EDIT*** Instead, I manage public relations for this client and there is a significant issue with my client's search stating she's a pageant queen and/or American Idol contestant and referencing a misspelled name of "Lisa Wislon" and an out-dated image of her as well all dating back to 2006...NOT RELEVANT/Active information on her and misleading, so my edits were to merely revise her category to most up-to-date works and she IS a relevant actress notable for Wikipedia. Her works are credible and can even be viewed on-screen and via her demo reel linked here.

When logging in today, the page is now up for deletion and the user started a discussion BASHING my client and my edits seemingly out of spite and this spread of slander and hate speech towards my client's past on American Idol and as Miss GA USA are NOT to be a topic of discussion considering they date back to 2006 and are not relevant to my edit of her category to actress and updated filmography section for current works + photography. I again am not skilled at editing and do not work on wikipages or platforms of any sort- simply assisting a client to ensure the correct and most up-to-date information is out there.

The discussion is linked here for your reference: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lesa_Wilson

Please so kindly HELP me to correct this article appropriately and flag such future inappropriate discussions from taking place in the future on her page.

Thank you!

19:00, 30 January 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2018PR (talk • contribs)

Hi 2018PR
Please see the policy WP:NOTPROMO: Wikipedia is a not a PR forum for you and your client, or for anyone else. If you want advertising, go pay for it.
See also the policies WP:COIDISCLOSEPAY and Wikipedia:Paid-contribution_disclosure#How_to_disclose, both which you failed to follow when you edited Lesa Wilson.
I have also seen your edit[17] to User talk:John from Idegon. Your allegations of "cyber-bullying" against the experienced Wikipedian User:John from Idegon are bogus, and amount to carry an implicit legal threat (see WP:NLT). I am glad to see that Drmies has acted promptly, and that you have been indefinitely blocked from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia.[18]
Anyway, thanks for pointing me towards WP:Articles for deletion/Lesa Wilson. I will go there to support deletion.
And a suggestion for the future: next time you want to promote a client, buy an advert. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:19, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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