User talk:Budeone

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Hello, Budeone, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Armond Budish, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted (if it hasn't already).

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Speedy deletion of Armond Budish[edit]

A tag has been placed on Armond Budish requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

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If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Wildthing61476 (talk) 19:16, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright Violation[edit]

Copyright problem: Armond Budish[edit]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Armond Budish, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a copy from http://www.house.state.oh.us/index.php?option=com_displaymembers&task=detail&district=08, and therefore a copyright violation. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted.

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If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at this temporary page. Leave a note at Talk:Armond Budish saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Wildthing61476 (talk) 19:18, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

January 2009[edit]

Please do not add copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder, as you did to Armond Budish. In addition to the problem of copying the official biography, of which you have already been notified, I notice that you later pasted on the page the article here.For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:27, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May 2009[edit]

With respect to your edits to the article Armond Budish on May 21, there are several issues to consider. First, if you are quoting text, you must cite your source. This is necessary to comply with Wikipedia's copyright policy as well as our non-free content guidelines. Generally, sources should be supplied for material, particularly that which takes a position, such as "Through this position he was able to utilize his extensive knowledge and experience regarding health care and legislative issues to make an extremely large impact on the way our government is handling these topics." Wikipedia does not pass judgment on whether a subject has "extensive" knowledge and experience or makes a "large impact". This is against our neutrality policies. If reliable sources have said such things, then it may be appropriate to report on them, but they must be attributed and any counterbalancing views in the press should be reported proportional to weight.

Your name suggests you may have a connection with this subject. If this is the case, please review our conflict of interest guidelines to learn how you may best contribute to this article. Whether you are involved or not, we do ask that you verify test you place with reliable sources and remain neutral in your presentation. Thank you. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 01:38, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and thank you for your reply. You are speaking to a real person. :) The problem with the text that your receptionist produced for you was that it did not indicate where the information came from (no sources, which is required for verifiability), that it used direct quotation (properly marked with quotation marks) but did not indicate a source (which is a problem for copyright reasons), that it included evaluation of your cousin and not simply neutral reporting of his activities (which is a problem under our neutrality policy), and that it was written from a first person plural perspective (referring to "our") and that it was not neutral. Wikipedia is a general reference guide written for users all over the world. We write from a universal, impersonal perspective.

The article could certainly use expansion. Generally, you would be discouraged from expanding it because your connection to him may not make you the most objective source (again, see our conflict of interest guidelines). However, you may be able to expand the article if you keep those policies (tucked behind the linked, colored text) in mind. It's certainly fine to report on where he went to school and what his significant actions have been in office. Evaluations of his work may be included if they come from a reliable, unconnected source (like a newspaper) and are balanced (Representing all sides. If all sides are positive, that's okay, but your connection to him is likely to lead others to think that you may be selectively choosing only good).

Please let me know if I can help clarify any of this. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know there can be quite a learning curve. :) I wish your receptionist luck. If she needs further information, please let me know. The nutshell version: (1) If it isn't already published, we can't use it; (2) if it is already published, say where you got it; (3) if it isn't basic fact, don't include it unless you tell whose opinion it is; (4)if some people like what he's done but other people don't, you must give both sides of the story, and (5) write it to be read by Pakistani tribesmen as well as by Ohioans. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:54, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see you re-added the material written by your receptionist on May 25th with just the addition of a few bare URLs as sources. I've now formatted this properly and attributed the statements requiring verfication with citations to the exact source. The only one which still requires the exact source in the form of footnote is the bit about his media awards. Note that the verification for that assertion must come from sources independent of the subject, not his various official biographies. I've also done some major copy-editing for coherence, encylopedic style, and neutral point of view, i.e. the problems highlighted by Moonriddengirl above. I'm afraid the article read like a campaign pamphlet. It's one of the problems of writing an article where you have a conflict of interest (for either personal or professional reasons). It's very hard to step back and take a neutral point of view about the subject and to keep a personally invested tone out of the article. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 17:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]