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Your submission at Articles for creation: Larry Packer (August 18)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

no sources?

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 21:26, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Difference between User Page and article name[edit]

Hello - I'm trying to start from scratch. My username is CMScrapbook and I'm now logged into my account (obviously). I think of CMScrapbook as my homepage. In my account homepage I want to create new article called Larry Packer - a Woodstock musician who used to play with The Band among others. I have many references I will try to insert. I cannot get a sandbox page with Larry Packer as the title. HelpCMScrapbook (talk) 20:01, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft can be edited here Draft:Larry Packer which would be preferable, but if you wish to create a sandbox you can do that here User:CMScrapbook/sandbox/Larry Packer. Theroadislong (talk) 20:26, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Larry Packer (November 12)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Liance was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Does not meet criteria outlined at WP:NMUSIC

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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-Liance^{talk/contribs} 15:42, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Larry Packer (December 1)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia.

This submission appears to be taken from https://www.campcripplecreek.com/artists. Wikipedia cannot accept material copied from elsewhere, unless it explicitly and verifiably has been released to the world under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license or into the public domain and is written in an acceptable tone—this includes material that you own the copyright to. You should attribute the content of a draft to outside sources, using citations, but copying and pasting or closely paraphrasing sources is not acceptable. The entire draft should be written using your own words and structure. Note to reviewers: do not leave copyright violations sitting in the page history. Please follow the instructions here.

You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work.

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Bkissin (talk) 15:45, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You have an obvious conflict of interest, please don't write about yourself, your friends or relatives and read the guidance below:

When you write about a person, you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that they meet the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.
You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.
There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:35, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

More[edit]

Thanks for message.

I can't see where you have clarified your conflict of interest, I won't ask you to do so again

Much of your text is unsourced, if you can't verify what you have written from independent verifiable sources, you must take it out
You describe his career, and a lot of it is he played with... followed by interminable lists of what feels like every musician on the planet. Playing with someone notable doesn't, of itself, make him notable, and just looks like name-dropping
You litter the text with your opinions, the great... etc, don't do that. I've removed some examples

He's probably notable, but you need to remove or source all uncited text, dump the "he's played with everyone on the planet stuff, make sure the tone is neutral and give chart placings if applicable Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:33, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Larry Packer[edit]

Hello, CMScrapbook. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Larry Packer, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 15:03, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Larry Packer[edit]

Hello, CMScrapbook. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Larry Packer".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:59, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Liz - I've hired a freelance writer to finish the Larry Packer article. Currently she is trying to work within the guidelines to publish, so we'll soon request retrieval so she can finish and submit. Meanwhile, purely by coincidence, I am in Woodstock, NY, visiting with Larry Packer, getting stories about his three years in Cat Mother and the All Night Newsboys for my Cat Mother website - going to launch soon. Cheers, Phil Hildenbrand 24.161.74.238 (talk) 20:53, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]