User talk:Callmepgr

A belated welcome![edit]

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April 2016[edit]

Hello. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to United States presidential election, 2016 timeline has been undone because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. The reverted edit can be found here. —azuki (talk · contribs · email) 14:19, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My edit might seem a joke, but it isn't. And I'm just taking information from that very same page. There is such a thing as a "Cyber" party, it was created by the candidate John McAfee, and it is part of the Chart, so the letter should be in the chart legend. Read about it in this same article, a bit above. Am I addressing the reason for your revert, you thought the party didn't exist, or was there another reason? Callmepgr (talk) 14:28, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Teramaze (October 11)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Phuzion was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Facebook and Discogs are not usable sources. Please either replace those sources, or remove them and any statements they support.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Phuzion (talk) 16:44, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Teramaze (November 7)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by WikiOriginal-9 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Not enough independent significant coverage

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WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 07:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I am a bit lost about what else the article would need. The last time I created a Wikipedia page was years ago, and it was way faster and hassle-free. If I had know this would be so long and problematic I would never have started this page, because I don't care enough about this band to waste so much time with this. I just thought it was an obvious flaw in Wikipedia, a band with 13 albums published doesn't have a Wikipedia entry? I also thought that by simply translating a page from German Wikipedia, it would be a quick win. But no.

I would really like to just get this published so that the community work can start flowing in. I mean, that's the spirit of Wikipedia, right? Each person makes minor contributions but the end result is more than the sum of its parts. I just don't feel that I have to do all the work. I am not looking at this as my article, in fact, I couldn't care less.

I think this should be enough to prove that the band exists and is relevant:

https://www.amazon.com/s?i=popular&rh=p_32%3ATeramaze&ref=dp_byline_sr_music_1

You can buy a bunch of physical CDs from them.

Ok, so it's relevant, it's not my garage band, it's not a case of "nobody cares". But is it "notability" in the Wikipedia sense? I don't know.

Would you be so kind as to facilitate the work for me? I don't want to edit the article, then wait a long time, then get rejected again. There are lots of things on the Internet about Teramaze, interviews, dates of european tours, etc. Which one(s) would you pick to make the article up-to-standards? Callmepgr (talk) 15:04, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(by talk reader) "I am a bit lost about what else the article would need. The last time I created a Wikipedia page was years ago, and it was way faster and hassle-free." The last time you created an article the subject passed WP:MUSICBIO by having songs which charted. That article also has citations from Pitchfork, NME, The Guardian, and The 405 among other reliable sources thereby making a claim for WP:GNG. Draft:Teramaze has none of that. "... because I don't care enough about this band to waste so much time with this" Then stop editing it. The draft, if it isn't improved by someone else, will eventually be deleted per WP:G13. "... a band with 13 albums published doesn't have a Wikipedia entry" With no real barrier to entry, there are garage bands who publish albums. This is why rely on WP:V and WP:N. "I also thought that by simply translating a page from German Wikipedia, it would be a quick win" German Wikipedia is a different wiki with a different consensus of editors with a different set of rules. Further, as most material on wiki is junk not yet screened by editors, there is no guarantee that the German-language article was suitable, either. "I would really like to just get this published so that the community work can start flowing in" You just asserted that you don't care. Per WP:REALPROBLEM, we will not make your substandard draft live just to attract attention. Per WP:42, interviews aren't going to help this situation. It probably makes sense to wait until all the band members are dead: their obituaries and subsequent coverage might establish notability. At that time, an editor who really wants to do the work can get credit for having started and brought to completion the article. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:38, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Getting back to this... Among other things I'm exploring, I think this link might be helpful:

https://heavymag.com.au/?s=teramaze

If you see the digital articles, but also scroll down a bit and see the several printed magazine covers with the band name, would you say that this is enough to establish notoriety per number 1 on this criteria page?

If so, how could I work that into the article?

Other options to establish notoriety would be coverage of tours and concerts, such as https://avenoctum.com/2023/10/19/progpower-europe-jc-sjiwa-club-baarlo-netherlands-8-10-23/

and number 5 on the criteria page linked above (5. Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).) if we count the albums published on Music Theories Records and on Nightmare Records which are indie labels with independently notable artists (charted) on their rosters (Flying Colors, Ayreon, and others). Callmepgr (talk) 11:45, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This would be ok as a source. Your goal is to establish notability: interviews and press releases, even if re-published by a news outlet, don't count toward notability. The avenoctum piece you mention might be ok, too. I'm not an expert on music or bands and I won't be reviewing the draft. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Teramaze[edit]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 08:06, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]