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Interstate 80 in Indiana

Interstate 80 has a full set of state-detail articles for all of the states through which is passes from California to New Jersey. Per WP:SIZE, full coverage of the topic area would be too much for a single national article to handle, which is why there are the full set of these articles to hold the exit list tables and state-specific details while the national article is supposed to contain a summary, per WP:SUMMARYSTYLE. This practice is quite standard. The project standard has been to use this whenever a single highway traverses three or more states, although that rule has some logical exceptions due to the relative lengths involved.

Indiana's segment of I-80 is a little different from those in the other states. I-80 in Indiana is fully overlapped with two other Interstates: I-94 from the Illinois state line to Lake Station, and then I-90 on the Indiana Toll Road from Lake Station to the Ohio state line. Consensus for years has been that such an article would overly duplicate sections of the Interstate 94 in Indiana and Indiana Toll Road (I-90 in Indiana) articles and be a maintenance burden, requiring editors improving specific sections of those two articles to edit a third to keep them in sync. Thus it was cut down to the set-index article, and recent attempts by a problematic anonymous editor to restore a full article have been reverted repeatedly.

Now, what is the end result of tagging this set index for notability? We aren't going to write a full article with an exit list and lots of citations due to the maintenance issues mentioned in the previous paragraph. We can't redirect Interstate 80 in Indiana to another article because there isn't a 1:1 correspondence between it and another article. As far as I'm aware, set indices like this do not require citations at all. WP:GEOROAD would counsel that major highways like this are notable and wouldn't be deleted. So the best solution is where we are: the set index.

Had that problematic IP (whose favorite contribution was Draft:Interstate and U.S. Highways with Interstate 80, a draft article about the highways that overlap I-80, a topic that will never be approved and would be immediately deleted if it did slip through) not bothered, this set index would be doing what it's done for years unmolested, directing readers to the places they want to be, which is a benefit to Wikipedia readers. Imzadi 1979  23:54, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Edit warring over notability tags is stupid. If you really disagree with the article's existence, then go to AFD. --Rschen7754 01:12, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
@Imzadi1979 and Rschen7754: Hi Imazadi1979, thank you and all I asked was the guidelines link as provided WP:GEOROAD. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 01:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

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CVUA assignment finished

Cassiopeia, I have finished the assignment 6 on my Counter-Vandalism Unit Academy page. Please check it. Best regards, WPEditor42 (talkcontribs) 23:46, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

WPEditor42 Done reviewed. Pls reanswer CSD question again (list the criteria). Let me know on the program page when you have done. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 01:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

NPP and CVU school

Hello,

I have studied documentation relevant to New pages patrol (and practically all other doc. I've come across) and would like to go through the training program.

I would also like to complete the CVU training program.

Are you currently available as a trainer for either or both of these? Epifanove💬 01:10, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


Epifanove Good day and thank you for interested in joining CVUA and NPPS programs. To join NPPS program, the editor needs to have at least 500 main space edits and as of now you have only 345 - see here. when you reach the required edits, then pls pop back hen if you are interested. Please note that both CVUA and NPPS do require a lot of your time to do the assignment and reading the material (guidelines). If you are still interested after knowing the above info then pls complete WP:TWA program first and pop back here when you have done so I could set up the program for you. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 23:58, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Could I perhaps begin now? I'm sure I will reach 500 in mainspace within 1-2 days :) WP:IAR? Epifanove🗯️ 00:56, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Epifanove NPPS is much harder than CVUA and I dont think editors should take both of the program together. Secondly and most importantly, to edit Wikipedia is about improve the article and not just get as many edits as you want so you can participant in the program. Lastly, you still need to to complete WP:TWA firtst priro I culd set up the CVUA program for you. Cassiopeia talk 01:46, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Im well aware of that, I'm not editing just to get edits, I'm just saying that at the rate at which I contribute I'm going to be there soon.
As for TWA it seems like it's painfully simple but I'll do it asap. Epifanove🗯️ 12:47, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

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CVUA Inquiry

I'm A current Student of ToastGuard for CVUA, but he had a medical issue of some sort (From a quick scan of his talk page) he said he returned on the 7th, I gave a reply asking if he was returning 5 days ago (No response) his last edit was on the 7th also, I'm Just wondering if you take me on if he doesn't return? Happy Editing! -I Followed The Username Policy (talk) 15:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

I followed The Username Policy Good day. If ToastGuard does not return, I will take you on for the CVUA program. However, prior I can do that, you have to inform ToastGuard first of our decision. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 02:30, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
OK, if he does not return I shall inform him on the 7th so after a month of inactivity for his account. Thanks for being willing to take me on! Happy Editing! -I Followed The Username Policy (talk) 11:40, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

BJJ belt rank in infobox

Been having a few conversations here, here and here about the formatting of the belt ranks in infobox, specifically as it relates to WP:SMALLFONT, the new color box template and moving who the belt is under to a note to declutter, as demonstrated here, and I must say I'm more confused now, than I've ever been about what is, or isn't best practice, specifically as MMA and BJJ editors have interpreted the rules differently, which is obviously troublesome given the crossover of athletes between the sports. Nswix (talk) 19:34, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

@Psycho-Krillin and Nswix: Hi, All combat sport that have a WikiProject page would have their certain ways to formatting the respectively pages. In MMA fighter pages, we can follow WP:SMALLFONT if we want, but it does not specify under which instructor should be mentioned at all and it will be up the editor and if the info is supported by independent, reliable source. As for the new color box template, it was created a month ago and I am not aware there is a discussion on agreement. To me, since there is no specific mention in the WikiProject MMA and most of MMA fighter pages do not have colour icon on ranks (also different sport share different ranking system and names and colour codes), I suggest to do away with the colour box for MMA fighters but just mention in text - keep it consistent unless we really to have change it as thousands of pages will be effected.03:50, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

NPP School

Hello, I am really interested in NPP and would like to know more about the notability guidelines. Are you available as a trainer? Also can you do me a favor by telling me how ready am I to be a reviewer? Thanks! Timothytyy (talk) 11:42, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Timothytyy Good day. Thank you for interested in NPPS. Pls note that the program do take up a lot of your time on reading material (guidelines) and doing the assignment. If you are still interested after knowing the info stated, then let me know and I will set up the program for you. Once you have complete the program then you are ready to review the new pages. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 03:35, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I am interested in the program. Looking forward to learning NPP skills! Timothytyy (talk) 08:33, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Timothytyy I have set up the program for you and pls book mark the page. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 03:06, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

James Mullarkey

Noah Magnus is not a Brazillian Jiu Jitsu Blackbelt and has never trained it please provide proof if he has otherwise ill keep editing it 1.145.50.95 (talk) 01:35, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

1.145.50.95 The info is as per source and it state Mllarkey black belt is under Magnus and didnt state Magnus is a black belt or not. Wikipedia needs source for verification of content added/changed and we can take your statement for verification as you are anonymous editors and if you keep on remove the info you will be blocked. Cassiopeia talk 01:42, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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Question from HelloBiased (22:07, 23 February 2023)

Hi, I'm having trouble understanding how to get approval on the upload of a logo image which is already in the public domain. I think I need to use the

tag, but where? --HelloBiased (talk) 22:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

HelloBiased could you give me the URL which the logo indicated it is in the public domain pls. Cassiopeia talk 03:26, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi there - please see: https://landcom.com.au/
If you need anything else, just let me know!
Thank you! HelloBiased (talk) 05:48, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

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CVUA

I changed my mind, I just informed him, Just want to know when you want to get started. Happy Editing! -I Followed The Username Policy (talk) 17:39, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

I followed The Username Policy I have set up the program for you and pls book mark the page. Pls read the info on the "communication section" at the bottom of the assignment prior answering the assignment's questions. Welcome to CVUA. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 06:44, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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