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Strasbourg again

Hello Chris. I've got a little favour to ask. I would like to turn the article Palais Rohan, Strasbourg into a Good Article, and for that purpose, I made a request for a review here. Only - no one reacted because no one seems to care! So... tell me if I'm being rude... given your interest for Strasbourg I thought maybe *you* could read the article and add your thoughts. (I made the same request to LynwoodF). All the best, Edelseider (talk) 06:42, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

• @Edelseider: Interesting. I've not done a good article review before. Doesn't look like I contributed to this article, so I shouldn't be disqualifed from doing so. Let me take a look at the process, and I'll try and help. Might take me until the weekend to get there though. If you don't see anything by Monday feel free to ping me again. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 10:02, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

South Gloucestershire

I see three unhelpful edits since your improved version - but am getting near WP:3RR if I do what seems sensible and revert the lot. How long before we need to revisit Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive_editing_by_User:Some1asks? (It's still open). PamD 16:25, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

@PamD: I know. I've just reverted one of them, which seemed more confused (at least the edit comment didn't seem to relate to the change) than deliberately damaging. I'm not sure if we are dealing with a vandal or just a very inexperienced editor. The other two edits I can live with for now, rather than use up more of my 3RR. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 17:12, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

F Market & Wharves and E Embarcadero Merger Proposal

Your input is requested: Talk:F Market & Wharves#F Market & Wharves and E Embarcadero Merger Proposal. Jackdude101 (Talk) 20:25, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Nottingham Express Transit - Toton Lane tram stop.

Chris,

Can I just point out that the location of the Toton Lane tram stop that you have 'corrected' back to Chilwell (from my correction to Stapleford) is incorrect. The reference that you cite https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/election-maps/gb/ actually shows that the tram stop and park and ride site are in the district ward of "Toton and Chilwell Meadows". Chilwell Meadows lies about 1KM south east of the tram stop whereas Toton borders the southern side of the park and ride. It would be more accurate to say the tram stop and park and ride are located in Toton than Chilwell which - to a local like me - doesn't make sense.

The site now occupied by the tram used to host Stapleford Circus. Google Earth still has it on their database http://www.titsham.co.uk/images/staplefordcircus.jpg . The footpath to the south of the circus is the Stapleford/Toton border. Whilst I concede that the electoral boundaries have been changed (for political reasons), and that the tram stop is within the Toton and Chilwell Meadows electoral ward, it is certainly not in Chilwell.

The only debate is whether the tram stop and park and ride site is in Stapleford or Toton. http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-tram-Confusion-cleared-location-Toton/story-27681744-detail/story.html Politically it is in Toton, but Historically it is in Stapleford.

Nevertheless, In April this year (2016) Broxtowe Borough Council erected a new sign welcoming people to Stapleford on the historic border, ignoring political ward boundaries. Anyone approaching the entrance to the tram park and ride would assume it is in Stapleford and not Toton - certainly not Chilwell.

http://www.staplefordcommunitygroup.org.uk/2016/04/21/welcome-to-stapleford/

Please consider this and update the Nottingham Express Transit page accordingly.

Tookey2k (talk) 02:45, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

I have taken the liberty of moving this discussion to Talk:Nottingham Express Transit#Is the line 1 terminus in Chilwell, Toton or Stapleford? so others can contribute if they see fit. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 13:53, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Wilford Lane tram stop

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@Fram: I've responded at Talk:Wilford Lane tram stop. Incidentally, I'm intrigued why you chose just this article out of the many NET tram stop articles, and did so in the middle of proposing the deletion of a swath of planned Edinburgh tram stops (a proposal, incidentally, with which I agree; planned is too soon). -- chris_j_wood (talk) 15:26, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing of sources at R&ER article

Hi. I'm afraid your recent additions and alterations at the Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway article contain very closely paraphrased from sources. This can be a problem under both our copyright policies and our guideline on plagiarism.

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In 1958 and again in 1959 the line and fittings were offered for sale but, without any serious potential purchaser, it was announced that the 1960 season would be the last. The Railway was to be sold by auction in September.

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In both 1958 and 1959 the line was unsuccessfully offered for sale and it was announced that the 1960 season would be the last, with the railway being sold by auction in September of that year.

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Please let me know if you have questions about this. Pyrope 17:50, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

@Pyrope: Thanks for pointing that out. I have rephrased the few sentences I added to this article, and hopefully none of them now look like close paraphrasing, although to be honest I was surprised by the example you quote above. I thought I had rewritten it in my own language; just shows how easy it is to unconsciously follow what you have read. If you see anything else there, please tell me. - chris_j_wood (talk) 10:50, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

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Sorry, but I'm afraid I've never held with using the comment box to precis what I've changed (surely that is what the diff is for). I do use it if I feel I need to explain why I've made the change, but not if the rationale for the change is obvious. So you will see that my edits are either commentless, or have attached essays, but rarely anything in between. As you havn't actually seen fit to tell me which edit of mine triggered this missive, I obviously cannot comment on the specific case. (PS. what does ce mean; the only meaning I associate with those letters is Christian Era, but I don't see how that relates to your edit to The Angel, Islington). -- chris_j_wood (talk) 15:41, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

It takes much longer to work out whether an edit is any good or not without a summary, and leaves it prone to being reverted. "ce" means "copyedit" and used by many editors who work at Featured Article Candidates. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:55, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

So a bad edit with a misleading comment is less likely to attract attention than a good edit without a comment. I'd be very interested to know exactly how knowing that an edit was a copyedit makes it easier to tell whether it is a good edit or not. Incidentally, I do know that mos stands for manual of style, but I havn't managed to find anything in said manual of style that suggests that a References section with subsections References (that actually contains annotated references) and Sources (that actually contains unannotated book details) is preferable to separate sections called References and Bibliography. To my eyes, the latter seems both more elegant, and also a more common layout in other articles. Perhaps you could point me at the appropriate section. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 16:07, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Just because you think something is elegant / common, it does not mean others share your view. @Nikkimaria: can answer the question about why the References section is formatted the way it is (something to do with accessibility), I can't remember. Anyway, there is no reason to nitpick over pointless trivia. This conversation is over, have a nice day. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:19, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

So if you really stand by your initial, and I have to say rather patronising, remarks on the need for comments, your reversion of my edit to The Angel, Islington should have had a comment that, instead of just reading mos, read somebody once told me this was bad, I cannot remember why, but you could try asking Nikkimaria. Humm. Ok, rant over. Have a nice day too. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 16:36, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

MOS:LAYOUT suggests that "Bibliography" is best avoided as a heading in this context. I think though based on the mention of accessibility Ritchie may be recalling my objection to ;Sources rather than '''Sources''' ? Nikkimaria (talk) 17:26, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Assuria Log Manager

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