User talk:Courier new

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— Moe ε 04:10, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

High School[edit]

I'm just curious, is this the high school you attend? If so, this high school doesn't seem notable enough to be on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Meaning, this article is not written in a Neutral Point of View. I think I might list this article for deletion. Please tell me your input on this. — Moe ε 04:42, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't delete it. Isn't its significance POV anyways? I do attend it--it's my last year--and all these things are true. Anyways, wikipedia is known so very, very obscure topics, which obviously cannot be found in traditional encyclopedias.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Courier new (talk • contribs)

The article Horseheads high school is not written in a Neutral Point of View. No matter how true it may seem to you, or the people who attend Horseheads high school. This is an on-line ENCYCLOPEDIA. Only factual information is allowed.

Comments such as:

The school is generally good

smart students complain that many AP classes are not offered

The school is poorly designed

are not allowed and are not considered in a Neutral Point of View. I'll clean up the article so it is written in a NPOV but it won't leave much. — Moe ε 04:56, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What if I preface my comments by saying "many people consider," which is true? Or maybe conducted a survey. Or quoted teachers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Courier new (talk • contribs)

Sorry, but no. That's still a matter of he said/she said POV. — Moe ε 05:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But quoting is very journalistic, and Mr. Hynes was fired. That is a fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Courier new (talk • contribs)

Stating opinions about others in a POV from yourself or others is not allowed. Sorry. Anyways, I'm going to list it for deletion because a little High School, unless it has notable popularity for something is non-notable. — Moe ε 05:07, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would I noot be giving an account if I said a groups of students sent around a petition to . . . Ummm, you thinking it is insignificant is totally POV. It is one of the biggest school districts in the state. Actually, I'm a little bit offended. To me, some of the stuff on the news, in find, is irrelevant to my life, but it is not the same for others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Courier new (talk • contribs)

Sorry you felt offended but the school I went to was never posted on Wikipedia and it's one of the best High Schools out there. High Schools, unless notable for something famous or infamous are not usually aloud on Wikipedia. — Moe ε 05:17, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Says who. You? If you read the wiki of Ithaca High School, where my sister went, they talk about how the architecture is a problem. POV? Yes, I agree that some of my stuff was POV, but deleting the entire article is a little extreme. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Courier new (talk • contribs)

No, actually Wikipedia policy states things can be listed for deletion if the requirements above are met. About your sisters high school, it's probably worded differently than the way you did. You stated it as a prespective from you, not a point of view that could meet the eye of everyone. I didn't delete the entire article. But everything I did delete was non-NPOV based, and was justified. — Moe ε 05:25, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the Ithaca article. Its the same in that it uses generalities, which I used. Saying, for example, a movie got bad reviews is fine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Courier new (talk • contribs)

I didn't read it , but from that comment, I can say one thing. The movie got bad reviews borderlines NPOV but stays withen the boundries of the requirements. — Moe ε 05:36, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moe Epsilon, you have no business telling this user the high school is not "allowed". The AFD will decide that. If it's like every other AFD in last many months, it will be kept. Generally we welcome and keep high schools. Its been a very long time since a real high school was deleted on Wikipedia. Now, the POV was a problem, and we must never allow POV or unverified information in any article. But that's unrelated to deletion/inclusion. --Rob 21:54, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Courier new, you may wish to visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools for guidelines/suggestions on what should normally be included in a school article. --Rob 21:57, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Lawrence College[edit]

Hi, Courier. I noticed you put up an expansion template on Sarah Lawrence College, and I was wondering what kind of information you'd like to see added to the page. I attend Sarah Lawrence, and would be happy to look into any content that would add to the article. If you add an expansion template to another article in the future, you may want to consider making an entry on its talk page detailing how you think it can be improved. Most sizable articles have at least a couple wikipedians who monitor them, so it's likely somebody with knowledge of the subject will read your suggestions. Thanks. --djrobgordon 05:21, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Williams Neutrality[edit]

Hi Courier New,

I was wondering why you nominated Williams College to be reviewed for its neutrality. You didn't provide any information on the talk page, as is requested by the tag, so I'm a bit curious. CapeCodEph 03:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

University of Cambridge[edit]

I wholeheartedly agreed with the comments you made on the University of Cambridge article and I have made a substantial attempt to pare down the boosterism. The current version as I write is [1]. Please take a look at the page and discuss further changes that you think violate the NPOV policy or, if the page looks good enough to you, remove the tag. Thanks! btm _talk 09:58, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gender[edit]

Years of usage have neutered the male pronoun... Bluap 08:05, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deciding for Oneself[edit]

Hi, Courier new. I responded to the comment you made on my talk page below your original comment. Keep up the hard work on making our articles better! btm _talk 07:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bjork[edit]

I'm clueless, really. Perhaps because she is a native speaker of Icelandic? Weird digital manipulations of the sound? Opus33 18:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Response on NPOV[edit]

I think you are taking an extremely closed view of what makes something NPOV. It is not POV to state (preferably with references) what is generally agreed to by critics, historians, scientists, and so on. I suggest you read NPOV#Undue_weight, which states "NPOV says that the article should fairly represent all significant viewpoints, in proportion to the prominence of each." Since the vast majority of critical critics place Shakespeare as one of the greatest writers ever, it is not POV to state this. Read the rest of that section. Best, --Alabamaboy 01:49, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion of Carnegie Mellon University[edit]

I'm going to remove the request for expansion of the Carnegie Mellon article unless you explain what you want expanded. --Matt 02:50, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]