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Overlapping warnings

Hello. We both have just placed notices at User talk:Mudassarinternationevenblooing for the same reason. While I was typing a level 3 warning, you blocked said user for the same problem. In light of this, I was wondering how appropriate my warning is, or if our sections should merge and our templates swap sequence (noting the timestamps). Thoughts? — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (talk) 04:38, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi CJDOS,
Any solution you like is fine. In these sorts of cases when I am the "second" editor, I either post a followup to myself like "oops, didn't notice an admin already blocked you for this", or simply remove it altoether with a similar edit-summary. Given they are solely here to spam their own blog (notice the URL vs their username) and history on that talkpage, they are irredeemable anyway. DMacks (talk) 12:51, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

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Oops on PhCH2C(O)CH3

Sorry, but I was also attracted to the same section for my quick edits. Ullmann has an overview of methods. One thing that I have noticed is that Industry does not like to use chloro-precursors in Friedel-Crafts whereas students and OChem teachers do like that approach. I think that disposal of HCl is a pain for industry, at least in places where it is regulated. --Smokefoot (talk) 17:55, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

No worries about that article. We gave them plenty of time and space to improve. They made some improvement and a lot of other messes:(
Interesting observation about that industrial preference! I agree that halogenated or halide-containing waste-streams can be problematic. And also the manufacture of halogenated precursors would have the same concern. And alkenes, alcohols, and especially carboxylic acid/anhydride can give easier purification of the eventual product. At least from my experience, albeit on only on "bench scale", the usual Friedel–Crafts catalysts (AlX3 and FeX3) are substantially harder to handle and get to work reliably than modern industrial ones (zeolites, ionic resins, metal-oxides). DMacks (talk) 14:36, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
@Smokefoot: You added "An alternative route is zeolite-catalyzed isomerization of phenylpropylene oxide." Is that an industrial method? I don't have Ullmann available. Do you know which constitutional isomer of that reactant is of special interest here? All three--the epoxides of allylbenzene, isopropenylbenzene, 1-propenylbenzene--are known to isomerize under various conditions, some obviously easier than others. DMacks (talk) 15:52, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
I wish that I knew which isomer of the epoxide. Here is a quote from Ullmann's chapter on Ketones under phenylaceton: "It may also be produced by the rearrangement of phenylpropylene oxide on zeolites [111] or oxidation of 2-phenylpropanol." I tried looking up the 1984 BASF patent but failed. So I punted, hoping someone would fill it in.--Smokefoot (talk) 16:44, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Embryology

The Article of the embryology page was contribute by a self published anonymous user in that most of the article don't have reliable references on those statements.one of them is

The Indian medical tradition in the Ayurveda also has conceptions of embryology from antiquity. Then Dalhana, a medieval commentator on the Sushruta Samhita, also describes embryological development. Dalhana claims that in the first month, the fetus has a jelly-like form, whereas cold and heat cause a change to hardness during the second month. Limb differentiation occurs in the third to four months and intelligence even later.

Neither the citations describes about it.Can you check it. David dclork li (talk) 08:13, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi David dclork li,
Unfortunately, embryology is not a field I know much about. Looking at the article and its history of that specific statement, I think your concern is with the "History" section, which was added in a series of edits 142.127.171.177 in May 2021 [12]? Anyone is welcome to edit wikipedia—"self published anonymous user" is an irrelevant detail. But if they do not cite sources, or cite poor sources, or sources that do not support the content, that is a problem. Is it totally bad enough to be fully removed? Maybe ask WT:MED for their expertise on this topic? DMacks (talk) 08:38, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks for the feedback

Thanks for the feedback. I thought that dois should possibly get different treatment to typical URLs. It was probably for the best that BMK took me to ANI and I reverted the whole lot, since now I can go back, and either convert them to {{doi}} or bare them completely, then follow up with ReFill or Citation Bot (depending on circumstances). Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 23:03, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome! I did not look for a wider pattern of your edits and I do not read ANI religiously, so I only focused on this one specific instance that landed on my watchlist. But by general consensus, DOIs generally get annotated as "doi" and the doi string is made explicitly visible. So the nice templates help with that. DMacks (talk) 05:43, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

vibration

I put a link to a FREE 400+ page engineering pdf book on mechanical vibration to the vibration page and the you delete it as spam? Did you even look at the pdf? Arikui999 (talk) 02:18, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

A new user adding lots of links to the same content on an anonymous filesharing website is a little suspicious. But I did look at the reference, and it seems like valid content, asserted to be uploaded by the actual book's author. But but, Wikipedia needs actual content, cited to sources, not just an unexplained collection of links to external content. I did not see this source as being substantially novel, or a reference that supports the existing article content. DMacks (talk) 13:35, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi! I saw that you thanked me for this edit at Zara Hatke Zara Bachke. Just fyi, I have since self-reverted that edit because of a 3RR concern. That article is a mess right now. Still, I appreciate the... appreciation? Actualcpscm (talk) 13:54, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

I see that you just gave the article pending changes protection; again just for your information, I already opened a request (although for more extensive protection) at WP:RPP. Thanks for your work! Actualcpscm (talk) 15:58, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
And thank you for your work on that article. It will be an annoying mess for a few weeks, as typical for Bollywood films. DMacks (talk) 21:39, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

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Regarding Glutamate Excitotoxicity

Hi, my apologies for not understanding the tone and style of Wikipedia, I understand that my contributions were not line with the standard and I have now read and understood the appropriate formatting and style for editing Wikipedia. However, I do have a few questions since the source that I was referencing is a literature review, which would make it a secondary source and according to this page, it would qualify as a sufficient reference. I further checked the other sources present on the Wikipedia page detailing Tetrahydrocannabinol (one of the pages that I edited), and I found a couple of citations (specifically citation 25 and 27) that are of similar quality to the paper that I am referencing. I understand that I got off on the wrong foot and the contributions I added made it seem like I am advertising, but I am only just trying to raise awareness on a contentious subject. My apologies for the inconvenience caused and thank you for your time. Jj too small (talk) 04:25, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

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Regarding my account block on Wiki Commons

Hi DMacks, this is to inform you that you had infinitely blocked my account on Wiki Commons back in August 2021 on the grounds of consistent uploading of non-free images. Since 2021, I've been a member of Wiki Project Saudi Arabia and have been continuously enriching content pertaining to Riyadh. I was given access to Wikipedia Library but was unable to access it, thanks to the block. I have a collection of several old pictures of Riyadh that are of high historical importance and are in public domain but I have been unable to upload it. I agree 2 years ago I wasn't aware of Wikimedia's image policies, but now I've come to know a lot in this journey of 100 weeks. I urge you to reverse my block and I assure you that such mistakes won't be repeated. Regards. Derivator2017 (talk) 16:23, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi User:Derivator2017,
Everyone deserves second chances and to grow and move beyond a rough start. I unblocked you. Wikipedia Library is a great resource and I know our Mideast articles can benefit from reliable sources. Welcome! DMacks (talk) 00:08, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

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Re:Refs and my formatting gaffe

That was an odd one. I wasn't looking out for that particular situation (so didn't notice that it had broken), not something I had seen before or had ever expected to see! Well, time to make some additions to my negative lookbehinds and lookaheads to prevent that from happening again. Either option is good, but I prefer to err on the side of caution when changing ref styles, and not change them from the current style, as I gather from what I've read on the matter that the safest option is to leave the existing format intact. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 05:24, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

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