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Abkhazia subdivisions map[edit]

Your File:Mapa okrsků Abcházie.svg isn't entirely clear. I originally thought the district borders were rivers, although I'm unsure how to fix that. Make them slightly thicker perhaps? Additionally, it'd be useful to specific in the picture description what the different lines actually represent. The dotted lines are particularly odd. CMD (talk) 12:28, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Веселых праздников![edit]

Желаю вам всего самого наилучшего в новом году! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:51, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your User page[edit]

Hello Dag13. Some of the material on your User page has upset another editor, so I would like to ask you not to restore it. I think you know what I'm referring to, but please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you.

PS: You may wish to read WP:User pages, especially "Handling inappropriate content". Thanks again. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:40, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thank you for notice. I havent problem with it, if you tell me what parts of my page is wrong and i will insist on edit page Giorgi Balakhadze in same size as my.

PS: I am soory if i violate some rules. This page should be originally joke on Giorgi Balakhadze, because he edited my user page[1][2] without talk with me. And when i ask him to not do it[3][4][5] he abuse me and deleted my requests[6][7].

Because Wikipedia is not place for jokings, and your edits or changings were provocative.--g. balaxaZeႫ 20:36, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Dag13, for giving me some background to your dispute with Giorgi Balakhadze; I wasn't aware that he changed your page on cs.wiki six months ago. He is taking seriously what you consider a joke, so I appreciate your cooperation in not restoring it. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:41, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok i willnt return my page to originally form, but if i musted remove this text: If someone want speake about Georgian territorial integrity or historical right georgians to Abkhazia and South Ossetia , please first of all read what did georgian leaders with peoples living on this territories: Joseph Stalin and Lavrentiy Beria. i want that Giorgi delete from his page this text: If someone wants to write/read something about secessional Abkhazia, please first of all read these articles: Battle of Gagra, Kamani massacre, Siege of Tkvarcheli, Sokhumi massacre. and because i cant express opposition to Georgia membership in EU, Giorgi shouldnt can support it.--Dag13 (talk) 21:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'll ask Giorgi Balakhadze what he thinks. I agree with you that either both statements should be allowed or neither statement should appear. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
1) Stalin and Beria were not Georgian leaders, they were Communist leaders so you must talk about Communists. At Communist era popullation of Abkhazia was near half million from whome 300 thousand was ethnically Georgians (Megrelians and other) so if Stalin and Beria did something wrong on that territories they did it against Geogrians too. Stalin and Beria not equal to all Georgians. Hitler was Austrian German and now what we gonna do, we must expel all Germans from Germany or all Austrians from Austria?!
2) You can express that you do not support Georgia's EU integration but in correct form, wikipedia is not tribune, You can write that "I (Dag13) do not support Georgia's membership in EU" and that's all. It doesn't need other explanations and comments like Georgia is a third world country and etc. (Source?).
At the end you can say that you didn't support Georgia's membership in EU as I'am saying I support. And you can leave your Text about Stalin and Beria with correction that they were not Georgian leaders, and have nothing common to Georgian as Hitler has nothing common to Germans or Austrians, except ethnicity. --g. balaxaZeႫ 21:41, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You cant dictate to others what they can say and what no. There are two solution.

1) Both texts will be deleted.

2) Both texts wiil be preserve.

There isnt third solution: You can write anything and i can write what you will allow me.

Stalin and Beria were Georgians and killed Abkhaz people and help Georgians to settle Abkhazia. Source of economy statistics is here.--Dag13 (talk) 22:07, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What I wrote was not dictating, it is contr-proporsal on your proporsal, I just explained my view about that. I have nothing wrong to you until you have nothing wrong to me, I just wanted to reach consensus, if so let's wait to Malik Shabazz's comment.--g. balaxaZeႫ 22:19, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The first rule of thumb is that Wikipedia is not a soap box. It applies equally to user pages (please consult WP:User pages as suggested by Malik Shabazz).

While you are both entitled to state your positions on your user pages, I would suggest that you both avoid highly contentious personal views on your user page as you are antagonising each other. Be respectful of each other's views for the sake of not being disruptive to the Wikipedia community. Thank you both, in advance, for making mature decisions. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:32, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Iryna Harpy is right. Wikipedia is not intended as a soapbox. I recommend against including any text that other editors might consider inflammatory. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:48, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I was always respect his wiew, i never tryed to change his userpage, though he has there to many offensive statemens. He many times edited my page here and on czech wiki and i tree times ask him to not do it. And i willnt respect point of views of people who dont respect my. And if he now trys silence or limit my point of views, i must insist on editing his user page in same size as my so i want delete text:If someone wants to write/read something about secessional Abkhazia, please first of all read these articles: Battle of Gagra, Kamani massacre, Siege of Tkvarcheli, Sokhumi massacre. and his supports Georgian membership in the European Union(Sorry but i think that i should justify my dont support Georgian EU membership).

PS: What do you mean with: "I have nothing wrong to you until you...". You on purpose called me russian for half year, although i told you that i am czech. You edited my userpage on two wikipedias without discusion with me. And you deleted my contributions to our discussions and you did not even try talk with me. WTF! I have many reasons to think that you " have something wrong to me".--Dag13 (talk) 17:06, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep calm Dag13, your pathos is very poor. I can't restrict your view about unsupport, I just advised you to do it in a correct form and not as a soap box, other users visit (perhaps) your page to understand what person you are, what is you interests, where are you from and etc., but not for economical researchs about Georgia. Now about Stalin and Beria as you writing about them and connecting to Georgians is also uncorrect, where did you find that they where Georgian leaders? And even if they did something bad in those territories (in Communism era) this is not a reason to support ethnic cleans of ethnically Georgian dwellers. You are free to write what you want about Stalin and Beria (the worst ethnic Georgians for Georgia) but you have no right to connect them to all Georgians and to Georgia's historical right on those territories. Writting that Stalin was Georgian leader is same as to write Hitler was Czech leader.--g. balaxaZeႫ 19:53, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Giorgi Balakhadze the next time you come to this talk page for no other reason than to be malicious and provocative, I will not come bearing the gift of humour but a bucket of cold water. The same goes for Dag13. Disengage from each other. Note, also, that I have added the articles you've been warring over to my watchlist. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:11, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

Hello, Dag13. You have new messages at Iryna Harpy's talk page.
Message added 05:22, 4 February 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:22, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring ![edit]

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Your recent editing history at Bichvinta shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
So you violated 3rr rule on 16:52, 8 April 2014 --g. balaxaZe★ 17:35, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That edit war was started by you and you made more revert than me.--Dag13 (talk) 17:49, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Dag13 and g. balaxaZe. Please note that I have added Pitsunda to my watchlist, and have made two minor edits. You will both find my comments regarding the changes on the talk page.
Giorgi Balakhadze, you have been editing here long enough to know that, despite the fact that every editor gets infuriated by particular topics they are passionate about, and the fact that mere presence of certain contributors can trigger our tempers, we still abide by WP:CIVIL. If the editing practices are tendentious or of another nature, we take it before an appropriate venue (such a DRN, ANI or AN3). It is best not to engage and revert if the issue has come up before, but to take it straight to whichever venue applies before you get caught up in a WP:BOOMERANG. Please remind yourself of good editing practices per WP:AVOIDEDITWAR.
Dag13, you have not been editing on English Wikipedia for very long, but you have been using it as a WP:BATTLEGROUND. WP:3RR doesn't actually apply strictly to a 24 hour period. Slow edit wars will lead to blocking and sanctions where there is abundant evidence for it being ongoing edit warring on a single article. You are currently treading a very thin line, so my best advice to you would be that if you are in doubt as to whether you're going to start an edit war by editing an article, don't edit it. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:36, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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