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Welcome![edit]

Hello, DanielleNeal2, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

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A tag has been placed on Draft:EmployBridge Update, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Conflict of interest[edit]

Information icon Hello, DanielleNeal2. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

  • avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
  • propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the {{request edit}} template);
  • disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
  • avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
  • do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. --Hammersoft (talk) 23:12, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings![edit]

Hello DanielleNeal2!

You have indicated that you are a paid editor. Have you read "The Plain and simple conflict of interest guide" yet? It covers everything you need to know about the pitfalls that being a paid editor can bring you.

Additionally, I have a few articles that could help with your draft on EmployBridge. However, I would like your assistance in finding more. Do you know of any articles such as this, this, and this? We prefer to see a good mixture of coverage independent of your company, so if you have any information such as newspaper clippings with stories about your company and not by your company (ie no press releases-- which you all have an awful lot of!) I can more easily assist you.

Many thanks and Kindest Regards, ―Matthew J. Long -Talk- 00:44, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MattLongCT: Thank you for your advice and examples! I will get working on finding more neutral sources and ping you for review after. 104.129.206.77 (talk) 14:56, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MattLongCT: The article has been updated. Could you proof it, please?— Preceding unsigned comment added by DanielleNeal2 (talkcontribs) 20:23, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
DanielleNeal2, will check when I am at home. Thank you! :D ―Matthew J. Long -Talk- 20:30, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DanielleNeal2, you are invited to the Teahouse![edit]

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16:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Blocked[edit]

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for advertising or promotion. From your contributions, this seems to be your only purpose.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

Athaenara 21:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

DanielleNeal2 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

i've been working with editors and studying wikipedia policies trying to do everything by the book. I've discolsed my COI, requested feedback and fact-checking, and taken the advice of seasoned editors. I'm not trying to advertise on wikipedia or violate any policies. Just trying to learn how to get the company page updated and participate in the wikipedia community. DanielleNeal2 (talk) 00:52, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I would be willing to unblock this account on two provisos; firstly that you refrain from making any further direct edits to the article EmployBridge (you can use the requested edit process if there is content which needs changing, which is what you should have done in the first place), and secondly that you update your userpage with the correct disclosure template (which is {{Paid}}, not {{UserboxCOI}}). If you are happy to abide by these terms, please ping me further down on this page. Yunshui  08:18, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Athaenara, Why was she blocked? She had not broken any policy I was aware of. ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-
@MattLongCT: I won't go so far as to call that a frivolous question, but the reasons for the block will be no mystery to experienced editors who are familiar with COI and SPA issues. – Athaenara 00:03, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Athaenara, She edited while logged out once from what I can tell. She also disclosed being a paid editor. My question is about what the specific violation of our policies led to the block? ―Matthew J. Long -Talk- 00:24, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MattLongCT: in re "edited while logged out", what IP was used? – Athaenara 01:13, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps you meant the 14:56, 19 February 2019 (UTC) post on this page, was there another? – Athaenara 01:23, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Athaenara, nope that's the one. Seemed innocent enough, and it was fairly obvious it was her. Be on the lookout for an email with my thoughts on this matter. :) ―Matthew J. Long -Talk- 01:46, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Athaenara: I've been doing my best to learn and understand wikipedia's code of conduct. I've addressed every complaint and am still working to be sure that i'm not violating any rules. I've requested that I be unblocked and will continue to argue my case. DanielleNeal2 (talk) 00:55, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DanielleNeal2: Did you previously edit as user EBDigitalOps (talk · contribs) or was that someone else who works at the company? – Athaenara 01:11, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Athaenara: I did not. I was asked to take a look at the article after someone else was blocked. The copy at the time was very similar to a press release and linked directly to our website. After working with editors here and reading through wikipedia's rules, I changed the copy to be more factual, removed press release references and added references to actual news sources. I'm really trying. The page is very, very outdated. We just want the most recent company information added. Even if it isn't me who updates the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanielleNeal2 (talkcontribs) 02:32, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For comparison, two sample edits:
The similarities are striking. – Athaenara 05:00, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DanielleNeal2: Did you read the {{Uw-coi}} notice that Hammersoft posted for you two days ago in the Conflict of interest section of this talk page?
Note the first point on the list:
  • avoid editing or creating articles about ... your ... company ...
You ignored it.
Note the second point on the list:
  • propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the {{request edit}} template)
You ignored that one, too. – Athaenara 04:44, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Athaenara: My understanding was that if you have a conflict of interest and you disclose that then it's ok. I also did use the request edit tag.

disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles

The similarities are striking because like I said in my previous response, I was asked to come in and look at the wiki article after a team member was blocked. I've been editing that article and trying to comply with Wikipedia's code of ethics & conduct since then. Nothing dishonest is happening here.


@Yunshui: Hello, I would appreciate the opportunity to be unblocked. I won't make any direct edits and I will use the request edits process. I'm having trouble updating the tag on my user page because it's semi-protected. Is that something you can do?

It's not semi-protected, you just can't edit it while you're blocked. Taking Athaenara's thanks notification as an indication that she's cool with it, I'm lifting the block; you will be able to edit your userpage (and everything else) in a few minutes. Yunshui  14:26, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Yunshui: @Athaenara: Thank you!