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Would love your help on drafting a ProPublica RFC

See User:Shibbolethink/Sandbox. I think my personal position is "generally reliable except science/data reporting".— Shibbolethink ( ) 15:04, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi Shibbolethink, thanks for writing. I'll say two things. First, I've never been a fan of the new "perennial sources" framework here because it replaced case-by-case considerations — valuable for most publications that aren't pure garbage — with poorly fitting labels that then become policy. Second, the two instances you cite for ProPublica are quite different and will be considered differently by the community. The COVID19 story problem appears to be far more egregious, and by lumping it with the police story problem, you're effectively weakening it.
I'd suggest going to WP:RSN and critiquing the COVID story specifically. We have so many high-quality reviews from scientific publications, plus criticisms from many other sources, that it's a lot easier to explain to editors why the story shouldn't be taken seriously for COVID material here at Wikipedia.
I'm sad that journalists have fared so poorly in understanding this issue, and that their views now diverge so strongly from the expertise of scientists. But they're not alone - their views reflect those of the public - and this probably relates to fundamental problems with scientific literacy. Particularly around evolutionary biology. -Darouet (talk) 18:10, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Darouet, per WP:BRD and particularly per WP:BLPRESTORE, it seems best to discuss the inclusion of contentious content on the Talk page. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 02:46, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi Beccaynr, I've appreciated what you've done so far at Jack Teixeira. Perhaps you've convinced me that we should exclude the information. One of the problems we have is that a lot of the information reported in the papers comes from these anonymous online chat members. Given that, it's hard to be sure what to include and what to exclude if that's our criteria for exclusion. I'll head over to talk and make a comment there. -Darouet (talk) 18:21, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your edits and the discussion - I feel your perspective has helped me more clearly and fully articulate my current concerns as they relate to the available sources and spirit of BLP policy. I am continuing to review sources and think about our discussion, and I agree that this is challenging. Ultimately, my thoughts relate to what it means to build an encyclopedia, and your feedback and participation is greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Beccaynr (talk) 18:45, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

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