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Mercedes-Benz Vario

Hi @Davey2010:, I saw you reverted my changes and I wonder why? Perhaps you have not noticed my comment on the changes. I do not like to start an edit war and kindly ask you to specify what is wrong in your opinion. --Wolle1303 (talk) 21:23, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Wolle1303, As far as I'm aware the Vario is mostly known as a bus although agreed not in the Beaver body, I've replaced the image with a better one, Many thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Davey2010:, I asked for the reasons for your revert and you changed a picture instead? I am a little short of time but I did a little research which should have been done by the authors beforehand. Sorry for the delay.

1. The Vario may have "mostly been known" as a bus and I suspect you are talking about British made third-party buses opposed to the genuine Mercedes-Benz buses. Given less than 5000 chassis had been sold within the 17 years of production (fr:Wikipedia) this number includes buses, UPS vans, perhaps the mobile post office and any other kind of third-party van imaginable. No clue about the exact number of buses but I prefer to guess 2500, which gives 150 per year for about a dozen bus body builders involved throughout Europe. So, when talking about buses we are talking about 2.5 % of the total Vario production volume, when talking about British bus builders about one third or one fifth of that (another guess).
2. There has also been the factory-made Mercedes-Benz buses which range from the "Berliner Wanne" police bus to small coaches (pictured in Viernheim) and commuter buses for narrow/hilly/winding streets. Furthermore, the pictured bus from Krakow/Poland appears to be a used cargo van later converted to a bus. These conversions based on any kind of old, used vans were very common all over eastern Europe. Anyway, among all Varios buses were a clear minority and among them third-party body builders were a minority again at least in continental Europe.
3. Therefore, I feel it would be a good idea to decide for a title picture at the end. What is best? The most typical, the most unique or a bus version?
4. Btw, is the pictured mobile post office armoured? Wouldn't this be worth to be mentioned?
5. Front wheel drive was available for the power heads (810DT).
6. I am not sure about classification shemes in North America, the UK and other countries nor which is best to be used here. To my knowledge, full size van is an American term for vans like the Ford E-series which share a maximum of 4.5 tons gross weight with the European Sprinter class. This limit is exceeded by the Sprinter itself (5 - 5.5 t) and Iveco Daily (7 t) in Europe. The Vario's minimum gross weight is almost 5 tons (1996-2001) to 6 tons which made me decide it is bigger than a full size van and cannot be classified as such. The gross weight exceeding 3.5 tons has also been a major reason for declining sales ([1]).
7. Is the Moralles Traveller a Vario or any kind of a bus or coach? Any proof? This also brought me to the question where has the Vario been sold (outside Europe)?
8. What is a MB800? Where is a proof for being a predecessor of the Vario?
9. Where is a proof for a CKD production in Alcobendas?
10. Is the wheelchair lift related to the genuine Vario bus or to any kind of third-party bus body?
11. The text section about engines is confusing, at least for a non-native English speaker like me. Reads like patchwork with a lot of repetitions. I doubt, the 618/818 has had 136 or 150 hp. I doubt, in 2002 there had only been 2 engine choices (100 and 110 kw, acc. to the engines table). Acc. to Mercedes-Benz a 4 litre engine (= OM364) has been available starting from 1996 (for Export?) and a 130 kw option as well ([2]).
12. Additional info: UK Mercedes-Benz Vario and Brochure of June 2011

My opinion: Most of the Varios were not standard vans or trucks but more or less converted to special applications: Emergency and emergency doctor vans (like the new-born pictured), double/crew cabs for construction, landscaping and others, workshop/control and metering vans (like the Rhein Energie pictured), the short-lived UPS vans, etc. A powerhead was available but the only applications I remember and pretty common were the Ruthmann skip carrier and possibly sales vans. Mercedes-Benz claimed the Fuso Canter to be a successor (imho seen by Daimler as a third or fourth choice after Sprinter, Atego and Unimog). --Wolle1303 (talk) 04:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Wolle1303 What's your problem ?, You disagreed with the image ... so I changed it. The image isn't of a Plaxton Beaver anymorew hich is what your issue was.

Inregards to your other questions - No idea - I've only added images to the article

Anyway if you have issues with the image you're more than welcome to start an rfc. Thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 10:51, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

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Hello Davey2010: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great New Year! Cheers, — YoungForever^(talk) 00:33, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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Happy 2021!

		Happy New Year
		Wishing you all the best for this new year, hopefully it will be better than the last one. William Harris (talk) 01:21, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year to you too! :)

Davey2010,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:41, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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Happy New Year, Davey2010!

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Davey2010,
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A quote from Gargantua and Pantagruel by Rabelais; it is taken from the manuscript of Jules Massenet's opera Panurge, in the composer's own hand. It is my greeting of choice for the new year, because it encourages us to live joyfully, and try not to take life too seriously...while quaffing whatever beverage we choose, naturally. This has been a challenging year, to say the least; I hope that 2021 may bring a fresh start, and better days ahead. May the new year bring you joy and peace...and many days of fruitful editing.

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Happy New Year!

Davey2010,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! D🎉ggy54321 ^{(happy new year!)} 02:31, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva — is wishing you a Happy New Year! It's the last day of 2021 and tomorrow will be 2025. Hope the coming year brings pleasures for you. Have a prosperous, enjoyable and a productive 2025. This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

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Happy New Year, Davey2010!

Happy New Year!

Davey2010,
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Your timely wikilove

Brought a tear to my eye (ok, a few). Thank you. Missvain (talk) 17:58, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Also through you I found this. My favorite new "rule." Missvain (talk) 17:59, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey Missvain, Haha aww, No worries!, I don't agree with the comments you've received and personally don't see a problem with the Relists either, But looks like we're in the minority there!,

All of the shit you're getting is the entire reason why I no longer bother with AFD anymore (that and closing AFDs 2 or so hours before the 7th day is a crime of the century apparently!),

Best advice I can give you is stop closing AFDs and participate where you'll actually be appreciated for what you do (which in my case is sourcing articles the best I can as well as improving them).

(Haha been following IAR since I've been here and so far I've not been indeffed so must be doing something right! :P )–Davey2010^Talk 18:49, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit reversion

Can you please explain why you reverted my edit on Rock DJ? I would have appreciated if had explained why you did in your edit summary. ResPM ^{come to my window} 19:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi ResolutionsPerMinute, My sincere apologies - I somehow missed your edit summary and thought you were vandalising the article so apologies for that, Could I ask why you've removed the navboxes tho ?. Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 19:20, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

I think I accidentally edited an old revision of the page. I was looking at an IP edit that changed the release date and I guess I forgot to leave the revision page. That happens sometimes whenever I see an unconstructive edit. Sorry, honest mistake. ResPM ^{come to my window} 19:31, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey ResolutionsPerMinute, No worries mate I've made that mistake plenty of times - Certainly an easy one to make :), All's good!, Happy New Year, Take care and stay safe, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 19:46, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!!

      HAPPY 2021!      

Thank you very much for your greeting Davey, and thank you also for all your contributions during 2020. Hasta la vista 2020. 2021 is welcomed with hope and open arms.
Lets make it a great one! Cheers. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 13:56, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Crystallizedcarbon, You're welcome Crystallizedcarbon and thank you very much for yours too and thank you for all of your contributions through 2020 too, It is mate that it is, Hope and excitement (that things change for the better).

Thank you for your positivity and hope - both are what the world needs right now!, I wish you nothing but the very best for 2021 and certainly hope it's a better year for us all. Take care and stay safe mate, Warmest Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 18:59, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Davey2010!

Happy New Year!

Davey2010,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Here's hoping 2021 is a much better year for all of us. FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:15, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

FeydHuxtable Many thanks for your greeting, Absolutely agree - Lets hope 2021 is everything that 2020 wasn't which is full of joy and happiness. All the best for 2021 mate. Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 19:03, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Davey2010!

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Davey2010,
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Many thanks and a Happy New Year to you too, –Davey2010^Talk 13:09, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Sabrina Bartlett - Poldark

Hi Davey, you tagged the Poldark entry on Sabrina Bartlett's page as needing a better source because the sources given "Only mentioned as Sabrina Bartlett as Keren Smith in 'Poldark'", what more are you looking for from a source? I was going to remove the tag but I thought I'd check with you first to see what you had in mind. Robman94 (talk) 16:47, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Robman94, To be honest I was hoping there would be a news article I missed that mentioned her in the article itself or failing that credits somewhere, I sort of felt the source used was useless as although the source mentions her it's only as a photo credit so readers wanting to find out more will no doubt be disappointed to learn it's a photo credit mention only but ofcourse others may see it differently,

Anyway many thanks for coming here first - You're more than welcome to remove it ), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:59, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

I see what you mean, it's not that the sources don't confirm that she played that part in that show, but they don't give much else. I tend to look at such citations as merely confirming that the statement is true, but no worries, I just did a quick search and have found a news article discussing her role in the show, so I'll use that instead. Robman94 (talk) 18:32, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey Robman94, Exactly, Ah weirdly I'd visited the link as it's purple so not sure why that never got added, Many thanks for finding and replacing the refs, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 19:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

I've added a new ref for Poldark and added some refs for the other ones with the CN tag. Take a look at the syntax I used because it's really cool, I discovered it a while back and it's a great way to keep articles clean. Robman94 (talk) 21:29, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey Robman94, Brilliant many thanks for your help!, Take care and stay safe, Cheers, –Davey2010^Talk 21:42, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

You're very welcome. I used to hate how difficult it was to read articles in edit mode, with all the citation syntax getting in the way, then I saw an article where the syntax was all in the references section, and I've never looked back. I use it for all the articles that I create now, take a look at Steven Blush for example, it's got nearly 30 citations but see how easy it is to read in edit mode. Robman94 (talk) 21:55, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

I agree Robman94 articles can be confusing to read in edit mode but despite that I prefer references to be up top but then again it's something I've always done since being here, Over at Strood everything's in {{Sfn}} which when can be confusing too, Meh people prefer different things which is cool - The world would be boring if we did things the same and preferred the same things etc :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 22:17, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I use SFN very sparingly, just for books that are used throughout an article with different page numbers in the ref. I've bookmarked Complete Control as an article that shows me how to do it, I use it so infrequently that I don't remember how! :) Cheers! Robman94 (talk) 22:22, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

tfw

Transport for Wales inherited a fleet of 127 units from [[Arriva Trains Wales]].<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-46374016|title=Train damage unexpected, say Transport for Wales bosses|date=29 November 2018|work=BBC News|access-date=4 January 2021}}</ref>

SK2242 (talk) 21:00, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi SK2242, First off my apologies for the reverts - I was intending to only keep the vinyl bit and the other paragraph but things became confusing. I hadn't looked up sources because I felt the image was enough. Ah well thank you for sourcing it, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Yet another HAPPY NEW YEAR wish

Water pot, Acoma Pueblo, c. 1889-1903, earthenware decorated with slip	Happy New Year!
	Hi Davey2010, May your New Year of 2021 be abundant, joyful and healthy. Thank you for everything you do here, including sharing so much good cheer among your fellow Wikipedians! Netherzone (talk) 23:47, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Netherzone, Yeah I've known for years the New Years wish is sort of redundant as the Xmas greeting says HNY etc but it's always nice to send a HNY greeting too!, Anyway many thanks and Happy New Year!, –Davey2010^Talk 14:45, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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Twitter fitter

Young fella, I've just agreed with removing the twitter account. Honestly, ya gonna retire over Donald Trump? Get back into the game. GoodDay (talk) 01:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi GoodDay, Hope all is well with you and yours. I know he's the last person ANYONE should ever retire over! :), At the time It felt like I was damned if I do and damned if I don't and to be honest it still feels that way.

Meh onwards and upwards! :), Happy editing!. –Davey2010^Talk 15:30, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Stay well

Saw what happened, hopefully you will come back soon, maybe lay off hot topic articles for a while. --Vauxford (talk) 02:01, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Best wishes

Hi – I saw you retired over something to do with that cheese puff ex-president. I hope you're all well, and that you return to editing soon! – DarkGlow (✉) 14:19, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Vauxford, Gerda Arendt and DarkGlow, Many thanks for your well wishes. I hope you're all safe and well.

Not gonna lie I've lost count at how many times I've upped and left only to then return later although this time I planned to never come back but still I appreciate the messages a lot.

I hope you're all safe and well. Take care, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 15:55, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Editing news 2021 #1

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Reply tool

Completion rates for comments made with the Reply tool and full-page wikitext editing. Details and limitations are in this report.

The Reply tool is available at most other Wikipedias.

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• It is also available as a Beta Feature at almost all Wikipedias except for the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias. If it is not available at your wiki, you can request it by following these simple instructions.

Research notes:

• As of January 2021, more than 3,500 editors have used the Reply tool to post about 70,000 comments.
• There is preliminary data from the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedia on the Reply tool. Junior Contributors who use the Reply tool are more likely to publish the comments that they start writing than those who use full-page wikitext editing.[3]
• The Editing and Parsing teams have significantly reduced the number of edits that affect other parts of the page. About 0.3% of edits did this during the last month.[4] Some of the remaining changes are automatic corrections for Special:LintErrors.
• A large A/B test will start soon.[5] This is part of the process to offer the Reply tool to everyone. During this test, half of all editors at 24 Wikipedias (not including the English Wikipedia) will have the Reply tool automatically enabled, and half will not. Editors at those Wikipeedias can still turn it on or off for their own accounts in Special:Preferences.

New discussion tool

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The new tool for starting new discussions (new sections) will join the Discussion tools in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures at the end of January. You can try the tool for yourself.[6] You can leave feedback in this thread or on the talk page.

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Draft no cat on User:Davey2010/Nu-Venture

The user script does the ping by itself. Apologies. SK2242 (talk) 23:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi SK2242, Ah in that case please accept my sincere apologies for that edit summary and the one after that!, I thought you were telling me how to remove the categories and admittedly it riled me up a little bit, I did see The Green Bus moved but just never gave the cats a thought as it's rare I work with drafts, Any apologies for those 2 edit summaries and thank you for removing them it's much appreciated. Take care and stay safe. –Davey2010^Talk 23:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

A very belated thank you

I know its late Davey but thank you very much for the Christmas message. Hope you´re having a better 2021 than 2020.Koplimek (talk) 21:01, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Koplimek, Haha no worries late is always better than never :), Yeah it's going alright thanks - it's pretty much the same as 2020 only this year we have a vaccine but vaccine's always better than no vaccine, Hope you and yours are doing okay mate, All the best for 2021 mate, Thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 21:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

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New article

Hi Dave, I want to create a new article (List of awards and nominations received by Evan Rachel Wood), I made an alpha version of it in my sandbox. Is it following notability guideline? Lisbeth Sjöberg (talk) 12:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Lisbeth Sjöberg, Apologies for the long delay, Article looks brilliant you've done a fantastic job!, Yep it easily passes notability guidelines :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 11:56, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Whiteguru, Thanks for the heads up, GA isn't really my fortay so will leave it for those who sort of know GA better than I do. Thanks for the heads up anyway, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 11:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

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Underscores in article titles.

Hi! I wanted to let you know that this edit that you made to Eurovision Song Contest 2021 contained a small mistake; you changed the link Go_A to Go A, however "Go_A" is the proper way to spell the band name (you can also see that the band's page uses {{DISPLAYTITLE}} to make the underscore appear). I don't know what that script is that you used, but it might need to be changed so it actually checks what the display title is of the target article. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 22:26, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jochem van Hees, Whoops my apologies for that - I did do a quick scroll before saving and obviously thought all was fine, Editors (myself included) occasionally will copy and paste from the URL and unintentionally copy the underscores with it so the script removes the underscores (amongst other things),

Unfortunately there's no easy fix as if "go_a" is not included in the script then editors who copy and paste for instance "go_away" from the URL it would leave the underscores if that makes sense. The best solution I can think of is to add a hidden comment to the name making people aware of the name and intentional underscores, I can't really think of a beter solution as to my knowledge the script cannot be disabled on a page and as I say removing partial words from the script would cause issues too.

Thank you for making me aware of this and for fixing my mistake I appreciate that, Take care and stay safe, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 22:43, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Editing news 2021 #2

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When newcomers had the Reply tool and tried to post on a talk page, they were more successful at posting a comment. (Source)

Earlier this year, the Editing team ran a large study of the Reply Tool. The main goal was to find out whether the Reply Tool helped newer editors communicate on wiki. The second goal was to see whether the comments that newer editors made using the tool needed to be reverted more frequently than comments newer editors made with the existing wikitext page editor.

The key results were:

• Newer editors who had automatic ("default on") access to the Reply tool were more likely to post a comment on a talk page.
• The comments that newer editors made with the Reply Tool were also less likely to be reverted than the comments that newer editors made with page editing.

These results give the Editing team confidence that the tool is helpful.

Looking ahead

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Thanks Gerda Arendt, Take care, –Davey2010^Talk 18:45, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Selfie

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I added a talkpage message to Talk:Selfie. Please check it out. I reverted it back to reduce my own images. Sorry again for that, but please do not do anymore, as I have added some important selfies to the page. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 13:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

The images don't need to be reaplced nor reduced, I have added the text changes back which were fine. Thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 13:50, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I disagree personally. I wanted to add some extra changes to the article which I thought I was doing right. Why do you hate me? --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 13:51, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Hate's a strong word and I don't hate anyone. Being reverted doesn't mean you're hated - just means your edits aren't improving the project unfortunately. –Davey2010^Talk 14:08, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Half the edits on selfie were of an improved nature. For example, the drone selfie was important and also wanted to add others. I catered to your preference on the grounds that you liked to have different authors instead of one. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 14:17, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Oh great, how rude of you to ignore me. I am trying to get your attention on this matter and I've done what the admins told me to do. What's next you expect me to turn back into my bad ways and get into mischief on the articles. Becuase I am planning to do that next if I cannot replace images at all. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 14:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Sometimes silence is the best answer. I wont be replying further because frankly it's a waste of my time. –Davey2010^Talk 15:03, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Ideal, me neither. Goodnight --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 15:04, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

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WP:RFC

as discussed. Hope that is what you wanted. Also if I'm partially blocked from selfie, that's not a big deal. I won't upload anymore. I've cut off some irrelevant images per your suggestion. I'm. sorry but it was wrong of me, but I'm happy to just get the topic ban replaced with a block temporarily, as I'll just edit other projects. I went middle ground for us, by removing all my images which were of own work and the low quality ones and replaced it back with all of them. Its easier, better compromise and we can move on. Instead of reverting, if you want, instead of replacing your version, its good to go middle ground --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 14:26, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Why bother starting an RFC if you're going to revert me anyway?, Oh well. –Davey2010^Talk 15:12, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

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Please see Talk:Low-floor bus and Talk:Mercedes-Benz Citaro. I want to be blocked I can't edit anymore here. You are a bully and I hate you I can't handle you, I can't stand you and this Wikipedia is gone to the dogs. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 15:03, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

I agreed with one of your edits and have replied on the talkpage. I haven't bullied you and I don't bully anyone here. Everyone here disagrees it's natural, Unfortunately it seems you can't handle being disagreed with. Anyway take care. –Davey2010^Talk 15:16, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't care anymore. I hate you, I hate everyone here. Oshwah is my only friend and you and User:Vauxford are just minions together, This is just outrageous. I have a sick family and I cannot handle being reverted LET ALONE YOU STRESSING ME OUT TO MY LIMITS. I am trying to keep it in but this Wikipedia ban and all that I take it on the chin. Whats next you want me to blank articles, create sockpuppets. This is just not worth me editing in this domain anymore. I was happy on Commons, and I think I behave much better there. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 15:19, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that Nim but I treat everyone the same - If you make an edit and I disagree with it - you'll be reverted, The exact same thing happens here on a daily basis with everyone. At the end of the day Wikipedia is a collaborative project meaning you have to discuss things (such as being reverted/your edits etc etc).

As I said at ANI WP:Wikipedia is not therapy and whilst it's sad to hear about your loved ones - Wikipedia can only make things 10x worse at times.

If you created sock puppets and blanked articles your time here would come to an immediate end and would result in you never being allowed to edit here again (no matter what device you use or what name you've used - you'd be found one way or another. Okay cool, Take care. –Davey2010^Talk 15:33, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't like you constantly reverting me for no apparent reason on the Simple English Wikipedia when I left, because its simply got worse for wear. I keep mentioning it but WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT seem to mind. This is the sole reason why I was reluctant to come back and I'm just going to sell my camera devices and drown myself on YouTube and view random peoples profiles on facebook --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 15:43, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

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Unwanted pings

Noticed on the ANI thread you getting annoyed with unwanted pings from a now blocked user. I had a similar situation awhile back, and was happy to find there is a good solution for that: if you go into your preferences -> notifications, at the very bottom is a box for "Muted users." Add the names of any users here you don't want to receive notifications, including pings from. Works like a charm. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:59, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ohnoitsjamie, You sir are amazing thank you!, I'd completely forgot about the mute thing so have done that now, Many thanks for that greatly appreciated, Take care and stay safe mate, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 00:06, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

McGill's

Hello. I'm currently editing McGill's buses. I'm not the best at wiki and its been a while. Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong on that page. I was about to post a link for McGill's 110 routes. Thanks for your help. Craig Discolover18 (talk) 18:33, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Craig, Welcome to Wikipedia, Usually when you add a claim you should always provide a source with that claim - not after :), I've reverted myself too to make life easy lol, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:37, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok I have a source. But I can't remember how to tidy links. Its been years since I've used wiki and I've only done 2000 odd edits. If I provide the source can you tidy it up for me? Discolover18 (talk) 18:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Plus can you freshen up that picture. That old volvo is seen better days :) Discolover18 (talk) 18:43, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Discolover18, I've converted the URL to cite, Unfortunately in regards to the image there's no better images at present (I've took a look on Flickr but no luck),

At present the only best picture's are this and this but one isn't better than the other so seems pointless replacing one poor image with another. Unfortunately this image isn't in the standard livery and this image obviously depicts a coach not a bus.

Thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 19:23, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

I have a ton of pics. I work at McGill's. I'll see if I can can get sone decent ones uploaded. Thanks for your help. I'm keen to see this page looking better and more accurate. Thanks again.

Craig Discolover18 (talk) 20:24, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Craig, You're welcome, You may want to read WP:COI - as long as you don't add promotional stuff to it you'll be fine, I've tagged one of new images as having no permission so you may want to contact OTRS at Commons, I know some pages here unfortunately tend to get forgotten about which is a shame, Thanks for your contributions to the article :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 20:44, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OTRS. –Davey2010^Talk 21:20, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Personal attack against author.

At [7] and [8] you made the comment "rm spammy author". I regard that as an inappropriate personal attack on the author. Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:49, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

What would you call someone who creates an account, spams their name (or their books) across multiple articles, gets blocked for it .... and proceeds to repeat the process under IPs ? ..... I can't find diffs because all this happened between 2016-2018 and I don't have the mental strength to comb through my contribs to find this given I've made thousands upon thousands of edits since. My comment isn't a personal attack. It's a true statement. –Davey2010^Talk 17:10, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

So I see with [9] you are now making summary comments that will be read as a personal attack against myself. Djm-leighpark (talk) 17:36, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

I talking as a general thing not you specifically. –Davey2010^Talk 17:52, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

I hope this helps. Have a great day. –Davey2010^Talk 17:59, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Buxton article

You do realize that the Buxton article is referenced in the HMS Rodney article? And in the Metallic Industries article? Please be so kind as to revert your inappropriate deletions.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:48, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Sturmvogel 66, I've gone ahead and undone all my edits as per my comment here as well as per the fact you're a good faith editor and I assume are in no relation to him, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 10:32, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Appreciated.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 11:47, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Mozart

Puzzled by this. There’s a huge piece of whitespace on my screen which I’ve not seen in any other article. Your edit summary doesn’t clarify. I can’t really see what it’s got to do with grabbing people’s attention about infoboxes. Thanks. DeCausa (talk) 21:48, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

My apologies DeCausa I didn't realise it did that - I thought spacing the hidden comments out might make them seen more or better but was obviously unaware it added the whitespace to the article so apologies for that - I've self reverted, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:52, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

No problem. Just worried that I was going mad! DeCausa (talk) 21:53, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Haha nope!, Just me going mad instead! :). –Davey2010^Talk 21:56, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in my recent RFA

I appreciate your support and trust in my recent run for admin. Thank you for the very nice compliment you paid me in your support. I've had an interesting first few weeks and am learning a lot by being able to better watch (through tools) what admins do. Please call on me if you see making an error, or if you just need help. Thanks again. BusterD (talk) 18:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey BusterD, You're very welcome, Congratulations on your RFA! :), As I said at the RFA you're a fantastic editor and without a single doubt in my mind you'll make a fantastic admin,

FWIW just some helpful advice but if you ever make a mistake as admin - Don't worry about it - It's not the end of the world, What ever mistake you make can easily be undone. Anyway congrats again, Happy blocking! :) –Davey2010^Talk 20:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

It's humorous to me that I undid my very first block because I felt the contributor was attempting to discuss but had made their attempts hard to find or poorly timed. I didn't notice one of the attempts because I gone off to work after blocking. Turns out the contributor was discussing a non-notable subject with identical name as a subject with a long established article. Encyclopedia anyone can edit? What are we ever going to do with all these 8 billion contributors? BusterD (talk) 20:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Please stop reverting the image

I'm reverting the article to the original image before the one I uploaded was added. Mine has already been voted to be deleted so it's just a matter of time before it's gone. I just want to make sure the article still has some sort of image representing the article. Lilzlulz (talk) 10:36, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Lilzlulz, FYI it's always better to add the image back as opposed to undoing someone which gives me a notification (or ping), I'd forgot about the DR result so if you haven't already I'll self revert, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 11:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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Many thanks for the birthday wishes CAPTAIN RAJU, Take care and stay safe mate, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 16:31, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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Apologies for the late reply - Many thanks usernamekiran and a belated Happy Halloween to you too, I hope you and yours had a fantastic time. Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 13:46, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

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Apologies for the delay - Thanks so much Ozzie10aaaa and I wish you and yours a a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Healthy New Year, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 22:44, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hey MarnetteD, I'm so sorry for not responding sooner - I thanked you via Echo but completely forgot to check back to your greeting - Thank you so much for your lovely greeting and I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy, Healthy and safe New Year, Always nice to see your friendly face here :), Take care, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 19:08, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

No worries at all D. Cheers! MarnetteD|Talk 21:57, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you so much Netherzone, and I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Healthy New Year, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:25, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hi User:CAPTAIN RAJU, Thanks so much and I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Healthy New Year, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:09, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hi {{u|KatnissEverdeen, Thanks so much and I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a happy and healthy new year, I hope you all have a wonderful day, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:14, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hi BOZ, Thanks so much and I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a happy and healthy new year, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 17:54, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hi User:YoungForever, Thank you so much for your lovely greeting - I hope you and yours have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Safe New Year, –Davey2010^Talk 22:34, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you too!

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Hi ~ ToBeFree, Thank you so much and I wish you and yours a wonderful Christmas and a happy, healthy and safe New Year,

I'm sorry for the comment but for a very long time I've hated people copying the xmas template word for word... it does my head in, So when I saw them change "PLEASE DON'T COPY THIS TEMPLATE WORD FOR WORD - BE CREATIVE!, THANKS, Davey2010 :)" to their name it[10] .... yeah my blood pressure hit the roof!.

It may seem stupid getting irate over something so trivial as a Crimbo template but when you've put work, effort and care into it just to see someone copypaste it and then seemingly deciding to take the credit for it ... yeah I don't appreciate things like that,

Thank you for not indeffing me although lets face it I should've been, There's no excuse for that vulgar word and I sincerely apologise for using it. You're a kind person ToBeFree and I appreciate you not doing what any other admin would've done, Sorry for the comment and sorry you had to see it, Anyway I hope you have a lovely Christmas and New Year, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 21:09, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

What did you expect, an indef for Christmas? It took me a while to see the thought process behind the message. While the reaction is an individual one, I can understand what led to it.

The ideal target of an apology in this case isn't me though... :) I see such words often enough not to be surprised angered by them either.

All the best!
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Certainly would've topped off the crap year that's for sure! :), You're far too kind ToBeFree far too kind. Seems unreal to think 2011 was a whole 10 years ago now, Only today me and the family were talking about me being a kid, memories etc and now I'm a man-child lol, 2021 really has just flown by, Anyway Take care and all the best for 2022, –Davey2010^Talk 22:15, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I came here looking for an explanation for that edit summary. I still don't quite understand but see that it's been addressed by ToBeFree so I'll let it be. Happy holidays. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:12, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Liz - Picture this - You make a christmas template which you put a lot of effort and care into, spent a few hours working with the coding, colours etc .... You add hidden messages encouraging people not to copy it word-for-word and you copypaste that hidden message like 5-6 times within that template hoping someone wouldn't copypaste it word for word. You then come across this where not only has it been copied word-for-word but also that person's replaced your name with theirs (giving the impression they created it all themselves) - How would you feel in all honestly ?,

Obviously no one with an ounce of sense would ever say what I did but you wouldn't be happy would you in all honestly ?,

Certainly not justifying what I said but in some respects you can sort of see where I'm coming from and sort of understand why I reacted the way I did,

I dunno maybe I care too much, Maybe I shouldn't care as much as I do but it just seems so disrespectful to replace usernames implying it was all their work, –Davey2010^Talk 22:28, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

I think it's not that clear-cut. To me personally, the text modification (in the linked case, to reflect the posthumous nature of the greetings) did seem to address your HTML comment request. And Special:Diff/1061754401 went even further with personalizing the greeting text.

To probably most editors, and honestly even to my CSS-enthusiast¹ self, the text is the central thing; it's Wikipedia after all, where everything revolves around text and images are decoration. So taking your CSS and adhering to the wish expressed in the HTML comment by replacing the text as individually as possible doesn't seem to be an evil thing to do. Not even really tactless in my personal opinion.

Of course people sign greetings with their own signature. Yet the source of the template was publicly attributed with a link to User:Davey2010/MerryChristmas, even in the visible text. Not bad?

¹I mean, I wore the CSS of my userpage on a t-shirt, beat this. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:46, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing and asking, Liz; I was sure Davey2010 would return after a few hours after their message, look at it again, see it deleted, know how to check who did that and then notice that my Christmas greetings have been sent after the deletion. Seemed like the ideal way to start a discussion without throwing accusations at anyone, as I lacked the context.

I originally wanted to return with my 01:46 message contents tomorrow, but your question and the response provided the ideal opportunity to write it today instead. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:03, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Chris Troutman (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

I'm so sorry for missing you out Chris troutman - You were on my xmas list as being retired for some reason hence why you never got it, I'm so sorry!, Thank you so much and I hope you and yours have a wonderful Christmas and a very Happy, Healthy and Safe New Year, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 21:13, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

No worries! I essentially quit editing last year, and the two dozen Christmas messages sent today were about half of all my edits this December. Thanks again. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:23, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

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★Trekker (talk) 22:16, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi ★Trekker, Thank you so much for your lovely greeting - I hope you and yours have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Safe New Year, –Davey2010^Talk 22:34, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Davey, I hope the same for you and all others. And that if we're lucky this pandemic may be over eventually.★Trekker (talk) 22:37, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Trekker, Lets hope so mate, I miss the non-covid world and hope next year we can go back to that world, I honestly doubt we will but one can hope :), Anyway take care and stay safe, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 13:52, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Season's greetings

Hi Davey2010. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and best wishes for 2022 (hopefully a lot better than 2020 and 2021!). Take care, be safe, but have fun! --RegentsPark (comment) 23:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey RegentsPark, Thank you so much for your lovely greeting, Agreed mate I've enough of it all, miss the old world and hope next year we can go back to it!, Anyway I hope you and yours have a wonderful day tomorrow and hope you all have a happy, healthy and safe New Year, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 14:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2022!!
	Hello Davey2010, warm wishes to you and your family throughout the holiday season. May your heart and home be filled with all of the joys the festive season brings. Here is a toast to a Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year!. scope_creepTalk 00:22, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey scope_creep, Thank you so much for your lovely greeting, and I hope you and yours have a wonderful day tomorrow and hope you all have a happy, healthy and safe New Year, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 14:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Cheer!

	Season's Greetings
	To Davey2010, best wishes to you and yours for a holiday season to remember and a happy & healthy 2022. Ewulp (talk) 01:49, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey Ewulp, Thank you so much for your lovely greeting, and I hope you and yours have a wonderful day tomorrow and hope you all have a happy, healthy and safe New Year, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 14:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks and Merry Christmas to you as well!

Hello Davey2010: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, ~~~~

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Hey Jhenderson777, Thank you so much for your lovely greeting, and I hope you and yours have a wonderful day tomorrow and hope you all have a happy, healthy and safe New Year, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 14:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Holiday greetings (2021)

Davey,
I sincerely hope your holiday season goes well this year especially with what we went through last year. I'm optimistic that 2022 will be a better year for all of us: both in real life and on Wikipedia. Wishing you the best from, Interstellarity (talk) 05:58, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey Interstellarity, Thank you so much for your lovely greeting, and I hope you and yours have a wonderful day tomorrow and hope you all have a happy, healthy and safe New Year, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 14:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!!

I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas. Lots of love, fortune and specially health. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 10:08, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey Crystallizedcarbon, Thank you so much for your lovely greeting, and I hope you and yours have a wonderful day tomorrow and hope you all have a happy, healthy and safe New Year, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 14:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Same to you. Enjoy the eating, the drinking, and of course friends and family (in person or remotely). Merry Christmas. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 14:07, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas Davey! FeydHuxtable (talk) 12:09, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey FeydHuxtable, Thank you so much for your lovely greeting, and I hope you and yours have a wonderful day tomorrow and hope you all have a happy, healthy and safe New Year, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 14:02, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

ϢereSpielChequers is wishing you a griffin's claw full of Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec21}} to your friends' talk pages.

Hey WereSpielChequers, Thank you so much for your lovely greeting, and I hope you and yours have a wonderful day tomorrow and hope you all have a happy, healthy and safe New Year, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 14:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Hello Davey2010: From high in the Canadian Arctic I hope you enjoy the holiday season, Quviasukvik, the Winter or Summer solstice, Christmas, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah or even the Saturnalia, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 17:27, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Adapted from {{Season's Greetings}}

Merry Christmas for you

Hello Davey2010: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Wira rhea (talk) 22:33, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas

Wishing you a Merry Christmas!
May the true spirit of Christmas shine in your heart and light your path!

--AntanO 03:09, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!!

I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas. Lots of love, fortune and specially health. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 04:41, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @Cambridge Bay Weather, @Wira rhea, @AntanO, @TheSandDoctor - Hope you all are having a wonderful day and I hope you all have a happy and healthy new year :), Ho ho ho, Thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 13:02, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Season's greetings

	A Shaker Christmas wish
	Give good gifts, one to another Peace, joy and comfort gladly bestow Harbor no ill 'gainst sister or brother Smooth life's journey as you onward go. Broad as the sunshine, free as the showers. So shed an influence blessing to prove; Give for the noblest of efforts your pow'rs; Blest and be blest, is the law of love.

--Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:39, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey @Ser Amantio di Nicolao, Thanks for your lovely greeting - I hope you and yours have a wonderful yesterday and hope you all have a happy,healthy and safe new year, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

A somewhat premature New Year's greeting

John Vanderlyn, Ariadne Asleep on the Island of Naxos (c.1812), Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts		Best wishes for a safe, healthy and prosperous 2022.
		Thank you for your contributions toward making Wikipedia a better and more accurate place. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 20:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC) Moral lesson: John Vanderlyn was an American painter who studied in Paris, and his life-sized Ariadne Asleep on the Island of Naxos was one of the first large nudes exhibited in the United States. Peddling the poison as well as the cure, this overtly sensuous work was presented to the public as a moral lesson on the consequences of lascivious behavior. Visible in the distance is the ship of Princess Ariadne's secret lover, Theseus, for whom she has betrayed her people by helping him to escape the Labyrinth and slay the Minotaur. Ariadne's bliss will come to an end when she awakens from her post-coital reverie, only to discover that the faithless Theseus has sailed away without her.

The Signpost: 28 December 2021

• From the editor: Here is the news

• News and notes: Jimbo's NFT, new arbs, fixing RfA, and financial statements

• Serendipity: Born three months before her brother?

• In the media: The past is not even past

• Recent research: STEM articles judged unsuitable for undergraduates below the first paragraph

• Arbitration report: A new crew for '22

• By the numbers: Four billion words and a few numbers

• Deletion report: We laughed, we cried, we closed as "no consensus"

• Gallery: Wikicommons presents: 2021

• Traffic report: Spider-Man, football and the departed

• Crossword: Another Wiki crossword for one and all

• Humour: Buying Wikipedia

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RFA 2021 Completed

The 2021 re-examination of RFA has been completed. 23 (plus 2 variants) ideas were proposed. Over 200 editors participated in this final phase. Three changes gained consensus and two proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration. Thanks to all who helped to close the discussion, and in particular Primefac, Lee Vilenski, and Ymblanter for closing the most difficult conversations and for TonyBallioni for closing the review of one of the closes.

The following proposals gained consensus and have all been implemented:

1. Revision of standard question 1 to Why are you interested in becoming an administrator? Special thanks to xaosflux for help with implementation.
2. A new process, Administrative Action Review (XRV) designed to review if an editor's specific use of an advanced permission, including the admin tools, is consistent with policy in a process similar to that of deletion review and move review. Thanks to all the editors who contributed (and are continuing to contribute) to the discussion of how to implement this proposal.
3. Removal of autopatrol from the administrator's toolkit. Special thanks to Wugapodes and Seddon for their help with implementation.

The following proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration:

1. An option for people to run for temporary adminship (proposal, discussion, & close)
2. An optional election process (proposal & discussion and close review & re-close)

Editors who wish to discuss these ideas or other ideas on how to try to address any of the six issues identified during phase 1 for which no proposal gained are encouraged to do so at RFA's talk page or an appropriate village pump.

A final and huge thanks all those who participated in this effort to improve our RFA process over the last 4 months.

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This is the final update with no further talk page messages planned.

01:46, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!!

	Happy New Year!
	Hello Davey2010: Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels? Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 09:32, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

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• Many thanks User:CAPTAIN RAJU and I hope you and yours have a happy, healthy and safe New Year, Lets hope 2022 is a better year for us all!, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:59, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!!

      HAPPY 2022!      

Hello Davey. Thank you for spreading joy through Wikipedia one more year. Bye bye 2021. 2022 is welcomed with lots of hope and fingers crossed.
Lets make it a great one! Cheers.

--Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 19:35, 31 December 2021 (UTC)