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DYK for Royal Commission on London Traffic

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Unbuilt tube stations in the London Borough of Merton

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Mill Hill (The Hale) railway station

Replaced by Mill Hill Broadway? That doesn't sound right, the two sites were quite separate. Govvy (talk) 12:15, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Not replaced by, but they were going to have a combined entrance.--DavidCane (talk) 12:22, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

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Charing Cross

"To carry out the works on the station and the running tunnels, a site on the north-western corner of Trafalgar Square at Whitcomb Street was used to construct a pair of access shafts 120 feet (37 m) deep from which long passages were excavated beneath Trafalgar Square to the existing below ground concourses. Although not originally intended for passenger use, one of these became the interchange passage between the Bakerloo and Northern lines."

I am a bit confused by this segment. If you are talking about these "long passages" originating at the northwest of the square, neither of these is used as an interchange passage for passenger use. From what I've been able to find, they are shown to the public sporadically as a sort of museum piece. The northern one connects to the interchange passage, but it's not itself used by passengers for anything, and only this one connects to any section/area of concourse; it appears the other ones connects to the western Jubilee tunnel. Am I misunderstanding what you're talking about? --Criticalthinker (talk) 14:44, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm summarising. From what is described, the section of passage way that is now the connection between the mid-level Bakerloo line and Northern line concourses was original part of the construction tunnel. Badsey-Ellis says (page 285):
"One of these tunnels split in two at the station, with branches heading in opposite directions to the existing Northern and Bakerloo line lower escalator concourses. Although originally intended to be a temporary working tunnel, it was realised during construction that it would be convenient if it was fitted out for passenger use to enable passengers to access the Northern line from the Trafalgar Square ticket hall without having to descend to the level of the new platforms and then up again (and vice versa)."--DavidCane (talk) 16:33, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing that up. I had no idea this tunnel wasn't originally planned to link the two stations. This would probably mean that they expected people to interchange at Embankment station, or if they wanted to get between the Bakerloo and Northern platforms, to interchange at the lower-level Jubliee concourse. --Criticalthinker (talk) 03:56, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Nav boxes

"this navbox should go only on the pages that it links to" Noted! How best to link the "heads of public transport in London" to the actual articles - just a piped link? Turini2 (talk) 20:59, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Not sure I understand the question.
List of heads of public transport authorities in London links to each of them direct where they have articles. The title of the navbox links to that. In the individual personal articles, the text should have a link to the organisation they led (e.g. London Regional Transport). All of the articles for the organisations link to History of public transport authorities in London (and vice versa) in the succession box at the bottom.
If you mean link the articles on the organisations to their heads, a "Chairmen" section could be added to each with names and dates listed (the London Passenger Transport Board article already mentions Ashfield and Latham in the text, so that does not need one).
Thanks for creating Sir Wilfred. I created several of the others and have been meaning to do the rest when I could be bothered to do the research.--DavidCane (talk) 22:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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Edit review

Hi David, I've reverted a few edits of a new user to London Underground stations that seemed pretty obviously wrong to me, like this one. However, I'm not familiar enough with the services to evaluate some of the others. Would you mind taking quick look at their recent edits? Cheers, OhNoitsJamie Talk 13:04, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

The edits have the same pattern as two IP editors I reverted many edits from a couple of days ago. I'm guessing they may be the same person. The particular edit you identified above was incorrect, and I see that it and their other edits have been reverted by other users. If their interest stays in editing articles within the WikiProject:London Transport subject area, I will probably spot them all--DavidCane (talk) 20:47, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:45, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Talk:George Huebner/GA1

DavidCane, just a reminder that your review here is still open. The nominator has recently posted that the issues raised have been addressed. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

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Information conflicts from Mr Horne's books

Greetings! I have just bought the Piccadilly Tube book by Mike Horne. While I was stumbling across references from the District Railway article, apparently it mentioned that the Ravenscourt Park to Turnham Green section duplicated on 3 December 1911 on the District book by the same author but, on the Piccadilly book it says 3 November 1911. Any thoughts? Thanks :D VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 15:53, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I find a reference to 3 December 1911 in the District line book (p. 48), but just 1911 in the Piccadilly line book (p. 26). The London Railway Atlas 4th edition by Joe Brown gives 3 December 1911 (note on p. 37)--DavidCane (talk) 20:48, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Interesting. I'll use 3 December then. The 3 November one in the Piccadilly book is apparently on page 46 based on my findings. Thank you! VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 10:09, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
I see you're talking about a different Piccadilly line book to the one I thought. I was looking at The Piccadilly line: An Illustrated History which is a companion to Horne's one for the District line, but it is one of three in the series that Horne didn't write - it's by Desmond F. Croome. --DavidCane (talk) 18:34, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes, yes. I'm using the Piccadilly Tube book. That clears the confusion. I might add these books to my collection later. Cheers VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 11:33, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Hmm another weird date conflict

Hi again. I was referring to a few sources about when the Met opened its extension to Uxbridge from HOTH. While Simpson 2003 p=97 states 30 June as in the Met article, Horne's 2007 (the one I'm using as stated earlier) said 4 July 1904 in p=45. Wallinger et al in 2014 also gave the same details as part of the Labyrinth series. Do you happen to know a clue of the date difference? Else I will make adjustments accordingly. It would be interesting to know if 30 June is an official opening, while 4 July has commercial steam services, or 30 June being Uxbridge's opening and 4 July Ruislip's. Thanks again, cheers! VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 18:14, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

I always use Douglas Rose's Diagrammatic History of the Underground for dates of opening, closure, etc. He has 4 July 1904. Joe Brown's London Railway Atlas has the same. 30 June 1904 was a Thursday, which seems unlikely as an opening day, whereas 4 July was a Monday.--DavidCane (talk) 17:29, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

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