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Category:AfC pending submissions by age/28 days ago

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Re: Speedy Deletion of Safer Wholesale

While I appreciate sparing my article for 7 days, I cannot wrap my head around your last sentence: "I very much doubt that the company qualifies, as by far most companies do not." - as this statement would testify, NO company belongs in Wikipedia. I could understand if 'Call now', 'Use Coupon Code' or other obvious attempts at harvesting customers from Wikipedia was detected, but this is not the case. As I've had several comments on the advertising nature of this piece, nobody has stepped forward to actually point out which sentences, paragraphs, etc. were actually 'abysmal'.TheDailyFlows (talk) 19:31, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

In general, famous companies, companies in relatively small but famous stock-indexes like the Dow Jones Industrial Average or Fortune 500 (but not very large ones like the Wilshire 5000), and companies with a high enough media profile that they get covered extensively in the media independent of press releases and the like clearly qualify for articles. With rare exceptions, mom-and-pop businesses that nobody outside a 50-miles radius has ever heard of clearly do not. In between are companies that "may" qualify but almost always do not. In general, if you were to look at all of the media coverage for this company, then take out anything related to a press release or corporate announcement, take away "routine" coverage such as changes in personnel in a publication which routinely reported all similar personnel changes in similar businesses or changes in stock prices in publications that routinely reported stock prices for this type of businesses, and take away "trivial" coverage (see WP:SIGCOV for the definition of "significant" coverage) you would be left with the kind of coverage Wikipedia editors look for when assessing a company's notability. Also, keep in mind that sources published by or on behalf of the company are not considered, and non-professional-quality sources such as most blogs (news blogs being a major exception) are also not considered when assessing a company's notability (see WP:Reliable sources for more on what sources are and are not appropriate in Wikipedia).
You seem to be a relatively new editor. I would encourage you to read WP:42, WP:Verifiability, WP:Notability, and WP:Reliable sources to gain a better understanding of how Wikipedia works. If you have any connection to this company at all, besides perhaps as a customer, you should also read WP:Conflict of interest. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:50, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks!

Thank you! I don't usually thank people for thanking me much. Please forgive me, but I have given a cookie to the other editor that was edit-warring with you. Happy holidays, Epicgenius (talk) 01:09, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-50

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New features

VisualEditor

  • The toolbar is now simpler; all text styles (bold, italics, underline, subscript, etc.) are in the same menu, and the "More" menu is called "Insert". [3]
  • You can now use a basic tool to add special characters to your text. You can add more characters (useful in your language) by editing the MediaWiki interface on translatewiki.net.
  • The tool to add and edit mathematical text is now called "formula". [4]

Problems

  • There was a problem with the "Create a book" tool (Collection); books could only be exported to PDF format. The change has been undone. [5]
  • The log-in system for external tools ("OAuth") was broken on wikis that tested the new search tool. It was fixed last week. [6] [7]
  • Because of a bug, this newsletter is delivered to users using the new MediaWiki message delivery, and to community pages using the old EdwardsBot. [8]

Future

  • MediaWiki 1.23wmf7 was added to test wikis on December 12. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on December 17 and all Wikipedia wikis on December 19 (calendar).
  • You will soon be able to select the language of SVG images that have translations using a drop-down menu on the image page. (see example) [9]
  • GLAMToolset, a tool to help GLAM groups (like museums) upload many pictures to Commons, will be added to Commons on December 17. [10]
  • A Draft namespace will be added to the English Wikipedia to make it easier to create new pages. You will be able to use VisualEditor for drafts if you have enabled it. [11] [12]

Other

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08:24, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Your request for undeletion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that a response has been made at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion regarding a submission you made. The thread is Renate Da Rin. JohnCD (talk) 11:18, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Hustlers Convention

Tech News: 2013-51

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

  • The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf8) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on December 19. It will be enabled on non-Wikipedia wikis on December 31 and on all Wikipedia wikis on January 2, 2014 (calendar).
  • You can now test the new search tool ("CirrusSearch") on all Wikisource, Wiktionary and Wikimedia chapter wikis hosted on Foundation servers. Enable "New search" in your Beta features preferences. [14]
  • There was a bug where notifications were not sent when the signature of the user leaving the message linked to a translated namespace. The problem was fixed in the software and will soon be fixed on Wikimedia sites. [15] [16]
  • You can now use the log-in system for external tools (OAuth) on all Wikimedia wikis that use the unified login. [17]
  • If your wiki adds stars or other icons to interwiki links for featured articles in other languages, you may need to change the JavaScript code. [18]
  • You can thank other users for their edits even if your browser does not have JavaScript. [19] [20]
  • All edits made through Flow, the new discussion system for MediaWiki, are now visible in user's contributions. You can test it on the Flow talk page on MediaWiki.org. [21] [22]
  • You can test a visual tool that shows edits made to an article over time. It only works for English Wikipedia pages for now and is slow on long articles. [23]
  • You can test the first version of the new mobile Wikipedia app for Android and iOS. [24]
  • Translatewiki.net, the site where you can translate the MediaWiki software, now has a new main page for users without an account. [25]

Future software changes

  • There will be no technical changes this week (December 23 to December 29) due to end-of-year holidays.
  • When someone deletes, restores, uploads, or moves a file on Commons, pages on all wikis that use that file will be refreshed. [26] [27]
  • New users will soon have their user and talk pages added to their watchlist as soon as they create an account. [28] [29].
  • The new search tool (CirrusSearch) will not show the text of versions of a page that have been hidden. [30] [31]
  • You will soon be able to see the raw HTML created by some wikitext by using the Special:ExpandTemplates tool. [32] [33]

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08:22, 23 December 2013 (UTC)


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Talkback

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Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year
Merry Christmas, Davidwr. Thank you for making this year on Wikipedia more fun, educational, and productive. May this coming year bring you love and peace. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:25, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Whisperback

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 00:34, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Postage Stamp

Hi, I saw you removed a postage stamp link from the article Janaq Paço.
Can you explain what you mean "invalid fair-use rationale for a postage stamp, cannot be used on article about the person/subject of the stamp"?
The postage stamp depicts a person, event, or object, therefore it can be used to enrich the article about that person, event, or object. No?
Thanks
Mondiad (talk) 03:39, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Non-free content#Images for what is okay to do with a non-free postage stamp image. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 03:51, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Thanks for filing the Gaiko-Walton Scholarship at AfD. Cheers! — Keithbob • Talk • 07:42, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-01

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

  • You can now see the text of DjVu and PDF files in search results on wikis testing the new search tool (CirrusSearch). [34] [35]
  • With the new version of the Wikibase DataModel extension, you can install it outside Wikimedia wikis. [36]

VisualEditor news

  • Images are now shown inside VisualEditor as HTML5 <figure /> elements. Comments are welcome. [37]
  • You can now test a basic version of VisualEditor on mobile devices; see this article as an example.

Problems

Future software changes

  • CirrusSearch will be added as the second search method for Spanish (es), French (fr), Portuguese (pt) and Russian (ru) wikis on December 30. Wikimedia Commons, Wikispecies and Wikinews users will also be able to enable it in their Beta Features options.
  • AbuseFilter log entries will be visible in CheckUser tool reports. [39] [40]
  • It will soon be possible to search for log entries done by users without an account. [41] [42]
  • It will no longer be possible to globally hide users with more than 1,000 edits. [43] [44]

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08:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

The Guidance Barnstar
In recognition for your work in dealing with what seemed like a problematic situation while assuming good faith throughout, work that resulted in guidance being directed to a group of users and that demonstrated the importance of taking a step back and assuming good faith. Well-restedTalk 09:22, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
@Well-rested: Thanks. To be fair (and I write this for the benefit of others who may see this message, not just you), I assumed bad faith once I noticed the 2nd or 3rd collaborating editor, and didn't resume assuming good faith until I noticed that more than one of them appeared to be students at the same institution and that their edits were consistent with what students ignorant of Wikipedia behavioral norms might do. Fortunately, all of this happened before I made any public statements in the matter. This just goes to show how important it is to calmly gather data before shouting FIRE in a crowded Wikipedia.
For what it's worth, the situation is still "open" but at least one or two of the editors have come out and said they would appreciate help, and when I last checked yesterday, none had made any problematic edits in the previous few days, nor do I expect any such edits in the future.
Other long-time editors have already taken the lead on actually helping editors improve their skills. Right now, I'm focusing on cleaning up those problematic articles which are on notable topics and starting the deletion process for those that I or others have identified as likely non-notable. For anyone interested in helping out, see the WikiProject Education noticeboard. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:48, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

File:WikiProject Zoo Logo.JPG & WPZOOTOP.jpg

I am a bit confused and need help understanding the issues here. ZooPro stated that this was his own work. I don't see anything about http://www.erik.com.au/australia-zoo/ anywhere except in the deletion notice for File:WikiProject Zoo Logo.JPG. Is this where it was uploaded from (I don't know how to find that information, but I assume it exists somewhere)? If so, is this because it was uploaded from an institution or company rather than a personal account? If this is the case, I will need to watch where I upload things from as well, since I usually do Wikipedia work on my work laptop at home (it's more conveniently available than my desktop downstairs). Don Lammers (talk) 17:37, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

@Donlammers: See commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:WPZOOTOP.jpg. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:45, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Press Release updated to website references

The MRI Software PR references were changed to the actual industry publications websites to prove the validity.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Softwareguy88 (talk • contribs) 15:05, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Olamide

Happy New Year Davidwr. Hope all is well? I believe Engrpeters, a newly registered user, created the Olamide article (although the article currently in Afc reads otherwise) few days ago. I decided to edit the article because I am familiar with the artist. The contents of the pending article are identical to that of Olamide's. Engrpeters made an exact duplicate; he created the Olamide article by adding freelinks to the article's header and submitted the exact article to AFC. There's no need for a merger. The article Engrpeters created needs a complete overhaul because most of the contents of the article were copied directly from the first reference cited. I am currently finding reliable sources to add to the article; once I do, I will add them using the proper reference template. I wrote the Olamide article lead from scratch. versace1608 (talk) 02:55, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I requested a history merge to comply with legal "attribution" requirements of the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and/or the GFDL. Any time one page is copied-and-pasted directly into another and someone other than the person doing the copying-and-pasting edited the "copied-from" article, the edit history of the "old" version must be reflected in the "new" version somehow. In most cases, this is done by simply merging the edit histories of the two pages into one. In cases where this can't be done, other more complicated techniques are used. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 07:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

For you correction

Thank you for the tutorials you gave me about the olamide page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Engrpeters (talk • contribs) 03:05, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

@Engrepeters: I think you meant to thank someone else, not me. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 07:05, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Dealing with the URAA

Hi, I see from your posts at Commons:Commons talk:URAA-restored copyrights that you are interested in tackling the problems that the URAA causes us here on Commons. I've started a new policy that might help, at Commons:Commons:Hosting of content released to the public domain globally. Could you have a look, and also add your thoughts to the talk page? I hope you will support it! --MichaelMaggs (talk) 10:48, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

  • The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf9) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 2. It will be enabled on non-Wikipedia wikis on January 7 and on all Wikipedia wikis on January 9 (calendar).
  • The old note-taking site (Etherpad) was removed on December 30, 2013. You can see most of the documents on the new site. [45]

Problems

  • On January 2, Wikimedia Commons, Wikidata and all Wikivoyage projects were broken for 2 hours due to language cache update issues.
  • On the same day, it was not possible to edit most wikis for about 30 minutes, due to a database replication problem.

Future software changes

  • The new search tool (CirrusSearch) will be added as the default search method for Italian Wikipedia, French Wikisource, Wikidata and all Wikivoyage sites, and as a second search method for the German Wikipedia and all Wikibooks sites on January 6. [46]
  • Spanish, French, Portuguese and Russian Wikipedia users will also be able to enable CirrusSearch in their Beta Features options. [47]
  • Plural form rules for some languages will be changed. Many translations of the user interface for Belarusian, Russian, Serbian, Ukrainian and other languages will need to be changed. [48] [49] [50]
  • You will see a warning when you try to delete a page linked to from other pages. [51] [52]
  • You will be able to hide redirect pages on the list of protected pages. [53] [54]
  • You will be able to use keyboard shortcuts in the Translate tool, by pressing Alt+1 and similar key groups. [55] [56]
  • E-mails sent by MediaWiki will include the name of the site in their From: line. You will be able to change this name on your wiki by editing the MediaWiki:Emailsender page. [57] [58]
  • Images viewed in the Beta Features media viewer will load faster. [59] [60]

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08:35, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

A note of thanks

Thank you for your notification to me that Doc Halo was nominated for deletion. Although I don't think Cleveland and Columbus are in the same news demographic area, it was a borderline case when I approved it, the article did not improve substantially over time as expected, and Wikipedia is not going to break because this article isn't included. The main reason I didn't participate is because, after further interaction and observation, I feel the article creator is WP:NOTHERE. But your efforts at fairness are duly noted and appreciated. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 22:55, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank You!

Thank you for helping me fix my annoying, stupid mistake on my first AfC review, and for going above and beyond--not only did you fix my mistake and leave a message at the talk page where I semi-frantically asked for help, but you also left me a long message on my talk page explaining how I could do better next time. Cogito-Ergo-Sum (14) (talk) 00:39, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

histmerge script

A barnstar for you!

The Citation Barnstar
Thanks ! Khocon 11:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
@Khocon:Thanks. Was this for something in particular? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:57, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

TOI article on paid editing

Hi! I saw your revert of my edit on Talk:Wiki-PR editing of Wikipedia. Although it does not mention the article itself, do we have any other template to document such web-article on talk pages? I knew only of this template and hence used it. I have done similar here at Talk:Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:42, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

The standard practice when a media organization mentions the topic covered by a Wikipedia article is to either not mention it at all, or to add it to the bottom as a comment. By far the most common option is to do nothing. After all, many topics, such as people in sports, entertainment, or politics, are covered just about every week if not every day during their professional careers. The reason the template you added exists is because when a Wikipedia page is specifically mentioned particularly if it is mentioned in a {{high traffic}} web site), it tends to get a large influx of both readers and new editors. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 06:54, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I just remembered, one reason you might want to add the URL in a comment is because it might be useful as a reference if content from that news article were ever incorporated into the article itself. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 06:56, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Blur (band)

Please put a reasonable time-limit on the full protection of Blur (band). With limited exceptions such as Office- or Arbcom-imposed or -sanctioned situations, "indefinite full protection" is a bad thing, frequently worse than the problem it solves.

Please reduce the terms of the full protection to something like 1-2 years, or less if possible. Consider putting and "update after" or similar template that will expire shortly before the full protection to remind the community to re-add at least semi-protection when the full protections expires.

If a "PC2-protection" proposal that would allow this article to be put under PC2 protection passes, consider immediately downgrading the protection to PC2 as soon as such a proposal passes.

Also, put a pp- type template at the top so everyone knows that it is protected and for how long. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 04:40, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. Indefinite does not mean infinite. The block is in place until the conflict is resolved. That could be hours, days or weeks. Once it is resolved the block is lifted. It is standard procedure. The conflict would not last a year. If the editors were that intransigent they would be topic or site banned, and the article unlocked. A bot usually deals with templates - if there's not one there, I'll look into it. SilkTork ✔Tea time 08:35, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
I have taken your suggestion and added {{Pp-dispute}}. I also changed the protection level to allow template editors. Thanks again for bringing this to my attention. SilkTork ✔Tea time 08:54, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
@SilkTork: Please, don't set the protection for an article page to template-protected. Per its RFC (I don't have the link handy, sorry), template-protected permission is not designed for articles. I think the only options for article pages are none, semi, pending-changes-1, pending-changes-1+semi, full, and in a few exceptional cases (mostly de-facto "WP:IAR/out of process" ones grandfathered in from the trial period), pending-changes-2.
By the way, the reason that "indefinate" full protection is a bad idea is if only a few admins are watching the page and they all take a wikibreak at the same time, the page effectively becomes protected "forever." Time-limited protection can and does end early if the reasons for it to end early are no longer present. This is why I suggested a time of 1-2 years rather than 1-2 months - it is very likely that the dispute will end before 1-2 years are up, and when it does, the protection can be removed. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:13, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

You can read a recent blog post about how Tech News is put together, translated and sent to you across wikis each week.

Recent software changes

  • The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf10) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 9. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on January 14, and all Wikipedia wikis on January 16 (calendar).
  • Searching in the File: namespace on Wikimedia Commons may be slow due to a search engine issue. [61]

VisualEditor news

  • VisualEditor will be added for all users on several Wikipedias on January 13. [62]
  • You can now add and remove __NOTOC__, __FORCETOC__ and __NOEDITSECTION__ in the page metadata menu. [63] [64] [65]

Problems

  • For a few hours on January 6, it was not possible to edit pages using the Translate tool on Wikimedia Commons and the Wikimania 2013 wiki, due to a settings error. [66] [67]
  • For about 20 minutes on January 9, there were problems with CSS and JavaScript due to high server load.

Future software changes

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09:33, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

NB&T Financial Group

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:31, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Whisperback

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 03:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Whisperback

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 03:26, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Whisperback

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 04:33, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Whisperback

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 05:50, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Zoo

RE: Wikiproject Zoo Logo, Hi Davidwr, I have only just been made aware of the issue surrounding the images you have indicated, please note I am happy to provide formal permission on behalf of Australia Zoo Pty Ltd of which I hold a position there of legal authority. I have provided permissions in the past for other images and happy to do the same again. If you wish to discuss further please feel free to send a follow up email. Regards ZooPro 11:26, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Resolved
Thanks for sending in the OTRS paperwork. I have closed the deletion discussions on the English Wikipedia and the Commons as "keep - OTRS pending - non-admin closure by nominator." And again, extend my thanks to the creators and copyright-owners of these excellent images. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Davidwr, Please note OTRS flags have been confirmed and tickets archived, thought I would let you know. Regards ZooPro 05:23, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

The Olamide template

Greetings Davidwr, this is in regards to the Olamide template. I am fully aware that templates are meant to link related articles together. I know you removed the free-links from "Rapsodi" because the article currently doesn't exist. I didn't mean no harm with my edits. When I first started creating templates, I used to add songs and albums (note: I didn't plan on creating articles for these songs and albums) to templates. User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars told me it is wrong to have unlink information in templates since the whole purpose of templates involve linking related articles together in order to help readers navigate through related information easily. Shouldn't I remove the "Rapsodi" album from the template since an article for it hasn't been created, or, is it okay to keep it unlink in the template like you did? versace1608 (talk) 14:26, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

This is at least somewhat a judgment call and I'm not sure Wikipedia has a firm consensus on this, so I'll tell you what I've seen in practice over the years and what I tend to do in such a situation:
If the song or album does not qualify for its own article and the artist or album isn't outright famous, it's better to just remove the item altogether. Unlinked ("black") entries are used when the omission of the entry would be "glaring." red links are used when the fact that the page does not exist is a glaring omission from Wikipedia. For example, if a song by The Beatles didn't have an article, a redlink should be used to remind readers that an article should be written. They are also used when someone is creating a set of pages in a short period of time and the expectation is that the link will "turn blue" within a few days. When creating sets of song/album/musician-related articles, the second use can be avoided by waiting until all articles are created before fully populating the template.
For things like musician/albmum/song templates, it's best to minimize the use of redlinks and "black" (unlinked) entries in navigation templates. On the other hand, "place" templates like "Cities, counties, and towns in the state of XYZ," should in fact contain every city, county, and town as a red-link. If smaller sub-divisions that qualify for articles but aren't "must-have articles" are listed, they should be either "blue" if there is an article or "black" if there is not one.
I left a "black link" on the assumption that if someone else (you?) left a red-link in a recently created template they knew that the song or album was notable enough to qualify for an article until proven otherwise (on the other hand, if the article DID exist and I had the time, I would read it and if the article did not "prove" that the song or album was notable, I would PROD it or nominate it for deletion). At the same time, I recognize that the musician wasn't "famous" so it would be best to de-link it.
The bottom line: Unless these "unlinked" items or their "parent" item is "famous" (like The Beatles), it would probably be best to remove the "unlinked" items altogether unless articles will be created in the next few weeks. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:44, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the extensive reply. I had plans on creating an article for "Rapsodi". Hopefully I'll find reliable sources for the article. Otherwise, I'll add what I can I add to the Olamide article. Meant to ask you, were the Beatles your favorite band of all time? I ask because you've used them as a reference to clarify things. versace1608 (talk) 21:22, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
No, I use them as an example "famous music group" because they were and still are famous throughout the English-speaking world. If I pick a band that is famous only in my country, there is no guarantee that a random Wikipedia editor would have heard of them. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:32, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-04

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Recent software changes

VisualEditor news

  • In the toolbar, the menu to edit the styles (like bold, italic, etc.) now has a down arrow (). The order of the Insert menu has also changed a little.
  • You can now edit <gallery /> tags with a very basic tool. [78]
  • You can now see a help page about keyboard shortcuts in the page menu. [79]
  • When you change categories, you will now see them when you save the page. [80]
  • When you edit templates, you will now see the parameters in the right order. The ones that you must add have a star (*). [81] [82]
  • The page will now be saved faster, thanks to a new way of coding the text that sends 40% less text to the servers. [83]
  • Your wiki can ask to test a new tool to edit TemplateData. [84]

Problems

  • There was a problem with search on the English and German Wikipedias between January 6 and January 14. You could not see new pages and changes in search results. [85]
  • There were "pool timeouts" errors on several wikis on January 13; it was caused by a code change that was made to fix another problem. [86]
  • On January 17, Bugzilla and Wikimedia Labs were broken for about 20 minutes due to network problems. IRC channels with recent changes (irc.wikimedia.org) were broken for about two hours. [87]

Future software changes

Orange bar with new messages
  • If you have removed JavaScript in your web browser, you will soon be able to see the orange bar saying that you have new messages. If you have changed how the bar looks with a gadget, you may need to change the gadget again. [88] [89]
  • You will soon be able to add a given Flickr user to a blacklist so that their files can't be uploaded using UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons and other wikis. [90]
  • You will see a warning when you try to delete a page included in at least one other page. [91]
  • You will so longer see disambiguation pages in Special:LonelyPages. [92] [93]

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10:22, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2014-05

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

  • Pages from Wikimedia sites now load faster in your browser thanks to "module storage", a way for your browser to save data like JavaScript and CSS on your computer to avoid downloading them again. See video. [94]
  • The code used to show videos has changed. You should be able to play the video on the page, with the play button on top of the video. If you see the play button on the right of the video, or if clicking on the video leads you to the original file, please file a bug or tell User:Bawolff. [95]
  • The Special:ActiveUsers page will be removed because it's too slow. [96]
  • The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf11) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 16. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on January 28, and all Wikipedia wikis on January 30 (calendar).

Problems

Future software changes

  • You can give comments about the new version of "Winter", a proposal to have a fixed toolbar at the top of wiki pages. [98]

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09:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

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