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Range blocks

I've asked User:Daniel about this, and he said that you were the person to ask. (looks around and asks: "Is it Thursday?" : )

Anyway please see User:Jc37/Tracking/Pastorwayne. And the recent related discussion at User talk:Roundhouse0#PW-alikes. There have also been a few checkusers: Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Pastorwayne.

I simply don't feel comfortable enough about range blocking to do it yet (I don't even know if I can as an admin : )

Anyway, thanks in advance for your thoughts/help. - jc37 05:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom candidacy - your conduct on my talk page

I find your canvassing/harassing to be in extremely poor taste. I should be able to vote without being questioned about it, and you should be able to accept it. You're exhibiting the worst of wikiculture and entirely justifying my oppose vote. And yes, I am referring to that "let's kick him when he's down" response that Endlessdan's question seems to have elicited from you. Very disappointed. Samsara (talk  contribs) 21:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

B'crat

Could you please give this bot a bot flag, as it has been approved. <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 14:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bah

[1] Damn edit conflicts. Just because you're a 'crat and it's your job, grumble grumble... :P EVula // talk // // 00:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Navnløs

Oh, yes. I realised that after a little while. I contacted an admin who blocked the sock account and gave a warning to the puppet master. Sorry for the confusion! Thanks anyway! :-) ScarianTalk 10:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Deskana! You are a « bureaucrat» at « WP:en: » . Can you please rename my account clicking here. Thanks in advance! Best regards Gangleri
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I didn't think I'd use that one one day

There are good days, and crappy days. May the next day shine on you :) -- lucasbfr talk 12:59, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How?

After reading your user page, HOW did you become an admin on the Navajo wikipedia without speaking Navajoan(?) I have never heard of what I guess is a language ;) Tiddly-Tom 19:18, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There was some work I wanted to do there, so I requested it on m:RFP. In the end a steward did the work so I'm not really active there at all... --Deskana (talk) 19:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Your request for Checkuser

No sweat. I have a law degree, I know what legal limits can be. I am still personnally uncertain as to whether an IP is a personal data or not, but I guess (I haven't checked US law) law or case law may say so. Whether or not it is the case in the US, if Mike Godwin says you cannot disclose an IP, I will not argue. But it was worth trying, and I am particularly happy about Anthere's support. At the end of the day I received the information I needed in negative form  ;-)

Whether I am scared or not, I do not know, but I am not the only person involved here: my wife and kids are suddenly part of it. I feel like I do not have the right to dismiss as Standard Internet Bullshit a threat upon them. It is up to me to decide to do something now. Bradipus (talk) 21:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was my only concern Deskana. Abruptness. Not the fact of giving or not given private data. I have no memory of having ever heard of anything wrong on this side. Okay, you tend to be abrupt, I tend to be abrupt as well. Sigh. Best. Anthere —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.4.208.201 (talk) 21:44, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Marlith T/C 05:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Bureaucrat

Can You change my name in user:Úrvágaðen? :) --Brískelly (talk) 13:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please use Wikipedia:Changing username; if you follow the instructions there, it makes it much easier for bureaucrats to fulfill your request. EVula // talk // // 17:00, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is official

Welcome aboard. :-) FloNight (talk) 22:52, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on your new appointment as Arbitrator! Good luck, and don't wear yourself out :) Majorly (talk) 22:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, both. --Deskana (talk) 23:06, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations!!! I'm sure you will do well, serving on arbcom. --Aude (talk) 23:14, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! Kirill 23:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As per what I wrote on NYB's talk page, well done. I'm sure we'll see the great results soon. Best regards, Rt. 23:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats on your success and good luck on the ArbCom Alexfusco5 00:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, Deskana. Take it slow and easy, and hope you can bring back some much needed harmony. Best wishes! ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, congratulations Deskana! No doubt you'll make a great arb.--Phoenix-wiki talk · contribs 12:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats :-) WjBscribe 14:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats, Deskana! I guess you need another of your timer userboxes! -- Flyguy649 talk 17:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations, Deskana! I hope you will do well in the Arbitration Committee. :-) All the best, Greg Jones II 21:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
From me as well, congratulations. :D Maser (Talk!) 09:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Public-substitute congratulations :) Daniel 01:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats :) --Charitwo talk 19:55, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adoptee ANNAfoxlover

Do you expect her to return? Special:Contributions/ANNAfoxlover doesn't exactly look like it (and I can't say I'm sad about it in any way whatsoever). [[User:Dorftrottel]] (talk)

It's impossible to say. I never did speak to her offwiki. --Deskana (talk) 00:22, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, just wondered because you have that adoption userbox. [[User:Dorftrottel]] (talk) 14:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On a more or less unrelated note (I noticed both things while taking a look at your freshly appointed arbcom-member userpage (not congratulating right now, may do so if your work there impresses me)): I remember you once "whacked" me on IRC for a comment regarding KOTOR 2 (something along the lines of "it's shit compared to the original", which is still my opinion). However, seeing as you are citing Kreia, I felt like making a belated restriction to my comment and agreeing that the character of Kreia had a lot of potential, like a few other aspects of the game. I dorftrotteltalk I 10:11, December 28, 2007

Unfortunately the bit of the game which included her redemption (where Atris took the title of Darth Treya) was unfortunately cut. That would have fleshed out the game considerably, as I always felt it was a bit silly that you get so close for Kreia only to have her turn on you. --Deskana (talk) 16:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I hate the way Kreia becaomes a traitor. The game is crap compared to the original — KOTOR: You get declared a hero of the galaxy and praised by everyone, including yoda's grand daddy or become evil overlord of the whole galaxy and rule with a fist of steel. KOTOR II: A planet blows up and you escape or you stay on a planet and your friends escape. Phoenix-wiki talk · contribs 20:17, 28 December 2007
Oy vey, I have to agree with everything said here. :) The engine was great (I like the breaking down useless items for components and whatnot), but the story was horribly, horribly rushed so that it'd come out before Christmas. On the final level, the map even has links to two areas (and displays door sprites at those locations), but the rooms got cut. Stupid, stupid, stupid... EVula // talk // // 17:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Plus, the HK50 thing wasn't even explained properly, and repairing HK47 doesn't do much. There was supposed to be a level where you destroy a HK50 factory or something but that got cut too.--Phoenix-wiki talk · contribs 21:36, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
btw, I assume you have this page watchlisted? ;-)--Phoenix-wiki talk · contribs 21:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Request for CheckUser of user User:Gohdeilocks.

Deskana, I would like to request CheckUser of user User:Gohdeilocks. I believe the user is Sockpuppet (Internet) and trying to Bait me into an irrelevant discussion that is unproductive for WikiPedia. Please read at the talk he or she started om my talk page, after I requested arbitration Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#ST47. User_talk:Igorberger#Your_arbitration_statement The editor has no editing history Special:Contributions/Gohdeilocks and no relevency to bring up my activities outside WikiPedia. As a Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam WikiPedia patrolman I see this problematic, as with the policy of the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam#How_to_identify_spam_and_spammers Thank you, Igor Berger (talk) 14:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Who do you think he's a sockpuppet of? ST47? I know ST47 from IRC, and while he can be a bit "short", as Edit Centric put it, he's a respnsible user. Anyway, the correct place for requesting checkuser is Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser, not here. And if there is no reasonable evidence that the user is a sockpuppet, the request will be denied as it is an invasion of privacy.--Phoenix-wiki 15:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, please no! I do not belive he is a sockpuppet of ST47. I think ST47 and I had a miscommunication nothing more! When I tried to talk to ST47, he kept calling me a Troll, which is not appropriate for WikiPedia to call other editors with derogative names! Can you imagine how we would look if we started refering to each other with Labels??? IMHO Igor Berger (talk) 15:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you want a checkuser on that guy then?--Phoenix-wiki 15:35, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As a forensic Malware expert I have an idea who he is and what is his alternative motive at WikiPedia. I am not the first one he has targeted. I prefer to withdraw the request at this time, and hope he will go on his way and respect our community. But if he does not I will show evidence to the effect who I believe the anon is. Thank you, Igor Berger (talk) 17:16, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
[Sigh] I'm not a sock, I'm a long time lurker and new user. I had no history with Igor Berger before today, when I asked him on his talk page why, if he felt being described as a "troll" (by a Wikipedia admin) was so offensive, why he styled himself "Igor the Troll" throughout his other internet postings, linked to from his own user page. Given that he has already escalated his earlier dispute to RfAr, I felt it was an important issue. The history on my own talk page tells its own sad story since then. [/Sigh] Gohdeilocks (talk) 17:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to request a ban of Gohdeilocks for tempering with Spam template flag that I have placed as a precotion to worn of possible vandalism following the WikiPEdia Spam project guidelines. Please check this users history http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gohdeilocks&action=history I tried to revert to previous version to correct the temparing of the Spam template but the user keeps reverting my revert. User_talk:Gohdeilocks Please check and act acordingly. Thank you, Igor Berger (talk) 17:39, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He hasn't really done anything bannable. Anyway, the correct place for ban proposals is WP:ANI.--Phoenix-wiki 18:35, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes he does but I am giving him a chance to deescalate the matter and to stop his harasment to me presonally. I have asked him not to come to my talk page. And not to talk about me personally on other user pages with refernce to my activities outside WikiPedia. If he does not stop the haresment, I will institute the ban by escalating infringments. It is really up to the user to walk a way from me, and to stop playing social engineering games with my authority! I am not hapopy to do this, but as you can check to the refences I am making he does not seem to want to stop the personal attack. Thank you, Igor Berger (talk) 18:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He is not harrasing you. You made up some petition against google knol, and it was reverted. You requested an arbitration case and Gohdeilocks made a comment on your talk page concerning your statement there. You want him banned because of it, which is frankly, ridiculous. And what do you mean by "your authority"?--Phoenix-wiki 18:50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And he isn't a spammer. I don't see him linking to anything.--Phoenix-wiki 18:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Point of interest, throwing the word "ban" around when you're not an administrator and don't have the ability to execute such an action is a very, very bad idea, as it only serves to escalate the situation. If you'd like wider consensus on this matter, post it to ANI; community bans are never instituted based strictly on a small conversation on an uninvolved editor's talk page. EVula // talk // // 18:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
EVula, I am trying to deescalate the matter in all situations conserned in a calm respectable matter. I was doing the job of Spam patrolman and with this authority I have been deligating the matters at hand. I am not interested in fighting, argueeng, or banning anyone. Thank you, Igor Berger (talk) 19:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The best way of deescalating the matter would be to simply walk away and forget it ever happened. You say you're not intereested in banning anyone, yet you requested that a user be banned with your last post. Spam patrolling isn't a formal postition — you just do it to help the 'pedia and it gives you no authority to ban or block people. I often keep an eye out for spam myself, yet I have no extra authority.--Phoenix-wiki 19:09, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Phoenix-wiki, I am trying to calm the situation. I do not know if I went at it the right way or the worng way, but based on my experience with SEO community and understanding Black Hat SEO`s and how they behave I make judgment calls proactive often than reactive when it comes to Baitting and social engineering. You have to understand how desruptive these two to WikiPedia. I have no personal interest or malfeelings to any person I engage in my investigations to find a Black Hat! Am I right all the time?* I would say fighting Spam for about 5 years now for my business and non for profit projects I tend to be correcrt very very often. But in other people`s eyes I amy not seem to be. I hope we can all come down and continue with pur work instead of having to defend ourself against aqusations on all sides. Thank you for your guidenes, Igor Berger (talk) 19:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a request for checkuser, please put it on Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser. Given you don't seem to really know who the sockmaster is, it's unlikely a check would be performed for you. I suggest you heed Phoenix's and EVula's advice. --Deskana (talk) 23:09, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

E-mail

I sent you an e-mail, in case you haven't checked yet. Nwwaew (Talk Page) (Contribs) (E-mail me) 02:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

Dear friend, I hope you had a wonderful New Year's Eve, and that 2008 is your best year yet! ~ Riana 02:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Happy New Year, Deskana

Wishing you the best for 2008! Acalamari 18:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on your successful ArbCom candidacy as well. Acalamari 18:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations

Just dropping by, but I would like to congratulate you on becoming an Arbitrator. Cheers! — Thomas H. Larsen 02:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!!!

Yayyy!!! Áthbhliain Faoi Shona Dhuit! :) - Alison 09:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC) (just emailed ya)[reply]

Meetup

Hi there, I noticed you expressed interest in the Birmingham meetup last October. Just letting you know, another UK meetup is in planning stages, here. We need input on where and when we will meet so comments would be much appreciated. Thanks. Majorly (talk) 16:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be the ip used by an indef blocked user and your 3m block has now expired. The ip is now seeking the unprotecting of the page. Since this was a checkuser block I'm simply going to post this message and ask you for advice on how to proceed. I have reblocked for a week to allow discussion. Spartaz Humbug! 16:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conditions

As I am unblocked will I be allowed to edit or create an account without being blocked. Thanks --67.86.43.59 (talk) 18:16, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't guarantee the actions of other administrator. As I see it, you are free to create an account but you should know I'll be watching, that's all. --Deskana (talk) 19:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your support in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate, that landed on WP:100! I paid close attention to everything that was said, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because of the holidays and all the off-wiki distractions. :) I'm also working my way through the Wikipedia:New admin school and double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools. My main goals are to help out with various backlogs, but I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are several more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status! Thanks again, have a great new year, and congratulations on your own ArbCom bid! --Elonka 05:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk Page

Can my talk page be deleted. Also several of the sock puppets that I am accused of are not mine. A check user could establish that. If you do not want to that is fine. Thanks --67.86.43.59 (talk) 23:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

You probably don't get many thank you notes for a withdrawn RfA. It clearly wasn't going to succeed with people looking at myopic details on summaries without looking at concrete contributions, but I wass interested to hear opinions. Personally, I think it didn't go well because of WP:SNOWBALL and a misunderstanding of WP:CANVASS. I'll continue to edit and reapply in the future. Thanks for the help. — BQZip01 — talk 23:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John Gohde 2 RfAr

Hi. You voted in favor of the principles and the findings, but not the remedy. Was this intentional? Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For now, yes. I've not had time thoroughly review it all. Thanks for the heads up. --Deskana (talk) 00:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request for checkuser (?)

Hi, I've recently discovered that (quite) an edit [2] was made by someone else using my account, and I'd like to request, if I may, your help in discovering the IP that was used to make it, in order to know if my account was hacked or if I simply forgot to log off. Thanks --goncalopp (talk) 09:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You wish me to disclose the results publically? I need explicit permission from you to do so. --Deskana (talk) 15:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There's no need for the results to be published, so could you please just mail them to me? If that's not possible, however (I'm not familiar with the process), I do give my permission for you to disclose the results publically. Thank you for your time --goncalopp (talk) 14:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Checkuser

Can a checkuser be done on me so it can prove my innocence in several cases I have been falsely accused of. --67.86.43.59 (talk) 15:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. You've edited nothing since user talk pages since being unblocked. Try doing something productive and then we can consider your requests. --Deskana (talk) 15:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

question

was this oversight done? 62.78.158.150 (talk) 16:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like it. --Deskana (talk) 15:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need help with an attack account

Hi, I have a problem I've been discussing with User:Rlevse. User_talk:Rlevse#Is_that_necessary.3F has a pretty good description of what's going on. Basically a sockpuppet account has been created whose name slanders me. The account has been disabled and well meaning admins have twice created the user page noting it as a sockpuppet. Unfortunately, this perpetuates the attack. User:Rlevse thought you might be able to help me as a bureaucrat. Thanks Toddst1 (talk) 18:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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User:Porcupine and rollback

I disagree with you (not that I don't think he should ever be given rollback, but I think it should have been given more time considering the mixed reception), but I hope you'll be right in the end :) -- lucasbfr talk 15:56, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow people managed to add additional comments saying they didn't want to grant him rollback while I was writing the edit that said I'd granted it, and I never got an edit conflict. Had I read them I'd have been a bit more careful. Anyway, if I'm wrong we can simply take it away. It's not like me adding adminship where I have to be really careful. I don't see why he shouldn't be given the chance. Oh, and I promise to do my best to watch him, and I'll remove it straight away if he abuses it, and make sure he doesn't get it back. --Deskana (talk) 15:58, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the trust, there, Deskana: I do appreciate it. I really intend only to use the privilege for vandalism when I'm monitoring the IRC channel away from home (where TW doesn't work), as I said :-) Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 16:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can use it at home too, that's fine. But do know that I'll be watching to make sure my trust isn't misplaced. Please don't disappoint me. --Deskana (talk) 16:42, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I can use it at home but won't, because TW makes warning quicker too, but it's much easier than anything else when Firefox isn't present. Cheers again.--Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 16:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFO

You know I've been here 2 years, you'd think I'd know that by now? Anyway, thanks for the heads up and sorry about posting the link, I wasn't sure how to have handled that, other than I KNEW posting that was not a goo idea. Wildthing61476 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:50, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's alright, there was no harm done. --Deskana (talk) 17:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Non-administrator rollback request

Hello,

Would you mind granting non-administrator rollback access to my account, please? I don't have need of the function at this time, although I anticipate being back full-time on Wikipedia in the reasonably near future and would use the feature widely then.

Cheers,

Thomas H. Larsen 23:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and happy Wikipedia Day (I'm several days late, but never mind). — Thomas H. Larsen 23:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done, and thanks. Hope you're well. :-) --Deskana (talk) 00:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Very well, thank you! Thanks for rollback :). — Thomas H. Larsen 00:24, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick delete on the above fake (and poorly concieved) trolling RfA. The same editor has another one at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Seth dalorane, lowercase d. It should probably go as well. Thanks! UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 02:16, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks. --Deskana (talk) 02:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Deskana -
I'm concerned by the discontuity between this finding of fact which states Grogre was "provocative and disruptive" and any similar finding of fact regarding the "other side." While much has been made of David Gerard's "reasonable-but-wrong" reasoning, this finding seems to indict Geogre simply for not having acess to the confidential mailing list. Despite there being no remedy attached to this FoF, it does not appear to rest well upon the evidence.
I've brought this to your talk page as I didn't see participation by you at the previous attempt to discuss this issue.
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Changing username

Deskana i've made a request for a my name change is there any chance of allowing it, plus if the name gets changed could you please not place any redirect links to the new username. →Dust Rider 08:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

What is it like to be(takes deep breath),be a Administrator, Oversighter, Beurecrat, have Check User rights, and be a Arbitrator? Atomic Religione (talk) 22:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd imagine it's extremely stressful for him, considering he has university exams aswell as his duties here. Anyway, this isn't what talk pages are for — whatch it or you might be issued with a {{uw-chat2}}.--Phoenix-wiki 19:49, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hornetman

You may wish to see and comment on this conversation at WT:PW. Cheers, D.M.N. (talk) 16:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have no motivation to file a WP:RFAR, I simply post here on behalf of blocked IP 68.224.117.152. Please see the post here. Best regards! --omtay38 02:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

James F. has already replied. --Deskana (talk) 19:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]