User talk:Diatom.phage

new user[edit]

hi. thanks for any help on learning about being a new user/author. yeah. new non-user i should say. i tend to avoid the shift key, except for in article writing. have not done this long. working on either messing up or improving General Hershy Bar. maybe a little of both. been reading essays and articles and faqs. so far so good. Diatom.phage (talk) 01:27, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

General Hershy Bar[edit]

Been working on General Hershy Bar's page. I knew him from seeing him on the streets of hollywood for about 4 years, 1979-83. I took his picture often. I posted one here (on the commons) , realized his page was thin, and wanted to add to it. So I have been. Right now, have some good refs for his NYC calypso period, but not much on why/when he left and how his other life changes happened.

I'd love some help. He was a cool guy. Not sure I have a conflict, but I did like and respect him. In the process I have been finding out things I have added to music and dance pages. or will add. Diatom.phage (talk) 01:27, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

General.

(that's how he'd great me or say good bye)Diatom.phage (talk) 01:28, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What the heck has diatom.phage been up to and who cares?[edit]

bunch of stats for diatom.phage

Hello[edit]

Not sure if you have been properly welcomed, so I just wanted say it's nice to have you aboard. Wiki can sometimes be a lonely place, which is a problem I've seen with new editors. Anyways, if you need any assistance I'd be happy to do my best to help or direct you to someone more capable. I, for the most part, work on 1960s music-related articles, so that is my expertise. But any structural questions ( music infoboxes, format, etc.) I can confidently give you an answer to as well. Again, glad to have you here!TheGracefulSlick (talk) 20:44, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Elizabeth Goodfellow (musician) has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Elizabeth Goodfellow (musician). Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 20:32, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Elizabeth Goodfellow (musician) (April 28)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Elizabeth Goodfellow (musician) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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KylieTastic (talk) 21:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Kylie Tastic!

I had more refs and was gonna add them and have the community add them once it was accepted.

Goodfellow is significant. I will document it and thicken it all up and resubmit. Also I sucked at format. That needs tonz. Plus it needs the disambiguity thingy. easy. so, maybe not ready for primetime. but really i think more than some articles. but arguments off the bottom are lame I know.

I decided to create pages for musicians that dont have pages. I know of about 20 great living people who could use a page. Nothing giant. Like Goodfellow for example has been drummer on like 100 peoples works, been in movies, tons of youtube solo and with famous people, and has helped start the careers of many. Having entries for these allows a fan like me a way to jump around using links from artist to artist. i think it makes discovery more possible and easy.

So, off I go to edit this up.

Thanks for your application of logical criteria to this process.

Go team. Diatom.phage (talk) 23:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just looked at Wikipedia:Notability (music) and to me Elizabeth Goodfellow "meets at least one" of the criteria for notability. I failed to add them all to the initial article, but will....here they are for reference as I work on it....

Ref-

https://pitchfork.com/news/iron-and-wine-announces-tour-and-new-album-light-verse-shares-new-song-you-never-know-listen/ (https://pitchfork.com/news/iron-and-wine-announces-tour-and-new-album-light-verse-shares-new-song-you-never-know-listen/)

My analysis-

Shows she played on Iron and Wine (notable artist on wiki, his other band members have at least two other notables) and was on his new album and is touring with him. Also Pitchfork is a notable significant publication. This meets criteria 1, 4, and 6 for notability and inclusion.

Ref-

https://www.moderndrummer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/1802_MD_February_459c.pdf (https://www.moderndrummer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/1802_MD_February_459c.pdf)(scroll to page 15)

“Since starting her professional career at the age of seventeen in the

U.S. Air Force Band of the West Coast, Goodfellow has played with the

Emily Anne Band and jazz trumpeter/vocalist Bria Skonberg. She’s also

a member of the rock group We Are the West. As she gets set to release

a debut solo record this February 23, MD asks what advice she’d offer

up-and-coming drummers considering her blooming career”

My analysis-

This shows she is playing in Iron and Wine (In wikipedia and notable), is in a major publication, and has also played with Bria Skonberg (in wikipedia and notable). Again meeting criteria 1,4, and 6.

Ref-

https://www.wooo.media/features/beth-goodfellow (https://www.wooo.media/features/beth-goodfellow)

My analysis-

Some good collaborations with notables are described here (eg Calexico - notable on wiki).

Ref-

https://www.jambase.com/article/phoebe-bridgers-conor-oberst-better-oblivion-community-center-surprise-album-late-show (https://www.jambase.com/article/phoebe-bridgers-conor-oberst-better-oblivion-community-center-surprise-album-late-show)

"Phoebe Bridgers and Conor Oberst confirmed the formation of their new project Better Oblivion Community Center. The duo released their self-titled debut album and held their first live performance on last night’s episode of The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

Released by Dead Oceans, Better Oblivion Community Center features Yeah Yeah Yeahs guitarist Nick Zinner on two songs and drummer Carla Azar on five of the 10 tracks. Dawes bassist Wylie Gelber and drummer Griffin Goldsmith appear on the other five songs. Additional contributors include Christian Lee Hutson on guitar and Anna Butterss on bass. Bridgers played baritone guitar and shared vocals with Oberst who also played piano.

Better Oblivion Community Center’s debut live performance occurred on last night’s Late Show. Backed by a touring band composed of Hutson, bassist Emily Retsas and drummer Elizabeth Goodfellow, Bridgers and Oberst were also joined by Zinner on the single “Dylan Thomas.”

My analysis-

This shows Goodfellow appearing on Phoebe Bridgers and Conor Oberst (both on wiki and notable) new project Better Oblivion Community Center, where she appeared on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert doing Dylan Thomas the single. Also she appears with Anna Butterss (notable on wiki). Meeting several criteria for notable (publication, other notables in band,appearing on network TV in band).

Ref-

https://drummagazine.com/wcw-elizabeth-goodfellow-from-americas-got-talent-to-touring-with-iron-and-wine-and-madison-cunningham/ (https://drummagazine.com/wcw-elizabeth-goodfellow-from-americas-got-talent-to-touring-with-iron-and-wine-and-madison-cunningham/)

“Since moving to LA, she has released two albums of her original music (Silly Sun, 2018 and Sea Ranch, 2019), recorded with artists including boygenius (Phoebe Bridgers, Julien Baker, and Lucy Dacus), and toured with Iron & Wine and Madison Cunningham.”

“The past couple years have been busy! I spent two years on the road drumming for Iron and Wine (Beast Epic, Weed Garden tours) and am currently drumming for Madison Cunningham (Who Are You Now? Tour). I also toured with the Hot Sardines (hot jazz, NYC) this summer performing at Blue Note jazz clubs in China, Japan, and Hawaii.”

My analysis-

This is a notable publication citing that she has recorded and played with boy genius (notable), and toured with Madison Cunningham (notable) and Iron and Wine (notable).

there are more... Diatom.phage (talk) 02:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick note as I'm at work but don't worry hugely about the formatting. The main point of a review is to check that notability is shown. It just needs references to show they meet Wikipedia:Notability (music) and/or just WP:NBASIC. Also as a new user if you have problems do ask for help/advice at the Wikipedia:Teahouse (see invite below). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Diatom.phage! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! KylieTastic (talk) 21:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Format[edit]

I created Section titles that are in common use for biography articles. David notMD (talk) 10:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

THANK YOU! i could not get a few things. Diatom.phage (talk) 21:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]