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Tech News: 2022-27

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 July. It will be on all wikis from 7 July (calendar).
  • Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 5 July at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on 7 July at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
  • The Beta Feature for DiscussionTools will be updated throughout July. Discussions will look different. You can see some of the proposed changes.
  • This change only affects pages in the main namespace in Wikisource. The Javascript config variable proofreadpage_source_href will be removed from mw.config and be replaced with the variable prpSourceIndexPage. [1]

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19:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #21

Welcome to the twenty-first newsletter from the Growth team!

New project: Positive reinforcement

Design mockup of the Positive reinforcement module for mobile users. The new module is first a summary of the number of views and can be expanded to show stats, graphs, and other contribution information.
Mockup of the Impact module, redesigned to add Positive reinforcement.
  • The Growth team started a new project: Positive reinforcement. We want newcomers to understand there is an interest in regularly editing Wikipedia, and we want to improve new editor retention.
  • We asked users from Arabic, Bangla, Czech and French Wikipedia about their feedback. Some people participated at mediawiki.org as well.
  • We summarized the initial feedback gathered from these community discussions, along with how we plan to iterate based on that feedback.
  • The first Positive Reinforcement idea is a redesign of the impact module: incorporating stats, graphs, and other contribution information. This idea received the widest support, and we plan to start our work based on the design illustrated on the side.
  • Please let us know what you think of this project, in any language.

For mentors

Scaling

  • "Add a link" available at more wikis ― Add a link feature has been deployed to more wikis: Catalan Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Simple English Wikipedia, Swedish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Abkhazian Wikipedia, Achinese Wikipedia, Adyghe Wikipedia, Afrikaans Wikipedia, Akan Wikipedia, Alemannisch Wikipedia, Amharic Wikipedia, Aragonese Wikipedia, Old English Wikipedia, Syriac Wikipedia, Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia, Asturian Wikipedia, Atikamekw Wikipedia, Avaric Wikipedia, Aymara Wikipedia, Azerbaijani Wikipedia, South Azerbaijani Wikipedia. This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure locally how this feature works.
  • "Add an image" available at more wikis ― Add an image feature will be deployed to more wikis: Greek Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia. These communities will be able to configure locally how this feature works. [2]

Suggested edits

  • Selecting topics ― We have created an "AND" filter to the list of topics at Special:Homepage. This way, newcomers can decide to select very specific topics ("Transportation" AND "Asia") or to have a broader selection ("Transportation" OR "Asia"). At the moment this feature is tested at pilot wikis.
  • Changes for Add a link ― We have built several improvements that came from community discussion and from data analysis. They will be available soon at the wikis.
    • Algorithm improvements ― The algorithm now avoids recommending links in sections that usually don't have links and for first names. Also, it now limits each article to only having three link suggestions by default (limited to the highest accuracy suggestions of all the available ones in the article).
    • User experience improvements ― We added a confirmation dialog when a user exits out of suggestion mode prior to making changes. We also improved post-edit dialog experience and allow newcomers to browse through task suggestions from the post-edit dialog.
    • Community configuration ― We allow communities to set a maximum number of links per article via Special:EditGrowthConfig.
    • Future change for Add a link feature ― We will suggest underlinked articles in priority. [3]
  • Patrolling suggested edits ― Some users at Arabic Wikipedia, Spanish Wikipedia, and Russian Wikipedia told us that "Add a link" and "Add an image" edits can be challenging to patrol. We are now brainstorming improvements to help address this challenge. We have already some ideas and we started some work to address this challenge. If you have any thoughts to add about the challenges of reviewing these tasks or how we should improve these tasks further, please let us know, in any language.

Community configuration

Communities can configure how the features work, using Special:EditGrowthConfig.

  • Communities can set the maximum number of "add an image" suggested tasks a newcomer can complete daily. [4]
  • Future change: allow communities to customize the "add a link" quality gate threshold easily, using Special:EditGrowthConfig. [5]

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13:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Bad edit

@Alexis Jazz:, could you please undo this edit? This person doesn't seem to understand what this list is for, as those women all have Wikidata items. --Donald Trung (talk) 21:07, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Um, why are you asking me instead of doing it yourself or asking on the talk page? I'm not really familiar with the list. All I know is that Wikidata has a considerably lower bar for notability. The bot is going to revert them anyway in a week or so. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:40, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, alright. I can't do it myself because I had an emoji in my signature years ago.
Anyhow, I forgot to mention that for a week or so I've been seeing double, that is I see "Start a new topic" twice and now there are two text balloons next to your name. Excuse me for not reporting this bug earlier. -- Donald Trung (talk) 22:51, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Oh right, edit restrictions. Well I'd prefer the IP getting angry with a bot rather than me for reverting them and I see limited harm in a project page temporarily listing slightly people. Especially if the IP would be right about the lack of notability which I don't intend to research.
Seeing double? How very odd! Is this always, on every page? Which skin? Mobile site? Do both icons work? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:32, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
This is what I see.

@Alexis Jazz:, this is what I see, I will take desktop screenshots later as I'm kind of busy right now. --Donald Trung (talk) 13:05, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

  • It appears both on mobile and desktop.
    It appears both on mobile and desktop.
  • So it's not limited to one or the other.
    So it's not limited to one or the other.
  • Another issue I ran into, oddly enough I don't see any reply options until I click "View as a wiki page" in mobile.
    Another issue I ran into, oddly enough I don't see any reply options until I click "View as a wiki page" in mobile.
  • What I mean above / to the left.
    What I mean above / to the left.

Well, this is what I see. Do you also have this bug? --Donald Trung (talk) 13:12, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

By the way, I fully understand why you'd want to stay out of this, didn't realise that a bot will undo the vandalism later. I actually see vandalism quite regularly that I'm not allowed remove and at the Meta-Wiki I've actually seen some "subtle vandalism" on a page for years that has gone unreverted simply because nobody does it. I imagine that you probably see vandalism at the Wikimedia Commons all the time that you're not reverting and copyright violations that you're not nominating for deletion. At this point I should probably just stop giving a fuck, especially if me undoing vandalism is considered to be "more disruptive" than the vandalism itself.

Which is also why I completely understand how you feel about the Wikimedia Commons, after a certain point the drama isn't worth the effort if you can be investing your time into more worthwhile things like tools that can improve users' editing experience. It's a shame that you don't work together with Wikimedia Deutschland to improve the tools. --Donald Trung (talk) 14:05, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

WMDE never asked me. Not sure if I should ask WMDE or what we could do for each other. I actually asked for people to volunteer for co-maintainer at User talk:Alexis Jazz/Bawl#BCL and some potentially bad news, a call that hasn't been answered yet.
Sometimes I run into copyvios through my work here, they generally end up on m:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Copyvios to decorate my talk page so I get them out of my system", a solution that isn't likely to work for your case.
I don't have the double stuff. I notice on one of the screenshots that the speech balloons are far too small, I saw this on one of my (old) phones with an outdated browser but the same phone displayed several other elements too small. IIRC the issue was limited to the Vector skin. Monobook or Timeless (or both) worked fine. I suspect that's an issue with the phone, browser, skin CSS or MediaWiki itself but it affects Bawl quite a bit. Having no developer tools on that phone, there's not much I can seemingly do about it. And since that browser was outdated I didn't bother to report it as a bug on Phabricator.
I see on the screenshots that the duplicate icons don't appear consistently. Do you also have replies on the same page that are missing icons? They may actually be misplaced instead of duplicate. An error report (kitty) could maybe help here. This doesn't explain the duplicate new section icon or duplicate "Start a new section" at the bottom.
What browser/device are you using? Could you try a different browser to see if it makes a difference? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 15:31, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'm currently using the Ecosia browser and using a Google Pixel 4a. The Ecosia browser is essentially just a fork of Chromium and the device I'm using is a relatively new one. I will try to see if I have these issues on other devices and in other Wikimedia websites as I've only checked Wikipedia and the WC. -- Donald Trung (talk) 17:04, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
IIRC the section edit links in Vector classic were also too small on my old phone. There happen to be no section edit links visible in your screenshots. Are the section edit links (or any other elements) disproportionally small for you? If they are, can you take a screenshot of that, preferably in a private window without Bawl? With that I could file a Phabricator task for that issue. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:12, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
I was rather confused initially, while some elements could be misplaced or duplicated due to some oversight the "new section" in the toolbar is really only added once. There just can't be two. And you can't run the script twice, it has a check for that. But as it turns out, you do load the script twice: once from User:Donald Trung/common.js and once from m:User:Donald Trung/global.js. And the check for double loading in Bawl was flawed: if loaded twice in quick succession the check could be passed again, which is what happened for you. This should no longer happen.
The icon size issue is unrelated, but I suspect that's not a Bawl bug. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 02:14, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, Weirdly enough it's solved now, did you update the software or was it a MediaWiki issue all along? -- Donald Trung (talk) 05:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
The icon size? I didn't fix that. I doubt loading Bawl twice caused that, but maybe? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I have no issues with the icon size, I can re-size my screen. I just don't see double anymore. That was my main issue. -- Donald Trung (talk) 05:53, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
That I fixed. The check if Bawl is already loaded is more reliable now. You might want to remove the line from User:Donald Trung/common.js anyway (that would have also solved your problem) as it's redundant to the one in your global.js.
The speech balloons on File:Start a new section brawl bug on "Desktop" mode (12 July 2022) 02.png are smaller than they should be. They should be about line height. But I suspect that's also true for some other elements like possibly the section edit links. If you could confirm that with a screenshot I could file a Phabricator task. Or if every other element on the page is the normal size, maybe it would be an issue with Bawl. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:21, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
How they appear for me now.

Well, on mobile this has always been the size, using "Desktop mode" on mobile is something that the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) always discourages, so I assume that "it's a feature and not a bug". As I'm convinced that some developers just try to sabotage Wikimedia websites for mobile devices on the presumption that all mobile users are vandals / "LTA" (whatever that means). I'd actually try to advise you to just use nothing but a mobile device for a week and see all the common issues we run into, sometimes I use my wife's laptop and the experiences are like night and day. My friends in real life also complain when I send them mobile Wikipedia links on Skype or Discord.

"Officially" the mobile site is supposed to be more "Consumer-oriented" while the desktop site is more "Prosumer-oriented", but the mobile site hides so much it's basically only designed to read and nothing more. Sure there are beta features that improve it, but overal the mobile site is specifically designed to hide talk pages, hide categories, hide the ability to edit full pages, basically hide anything that could make someone productive. I'm convinced that the WMF and the Stews just want to keep mobile editors away from these websites. Most updates also make the mobile editing experience worse, not better. And you're not allowed to complain about it. Wait no, that only applies to me. --Donald Trung (talk) 06:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz:, Forgot to ping you. --Donald Trung (talk) 06:45, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Well if (non-Bawl) section edit links or any other elements are also undersized for you it's a bug, probably an oversight in the CSS for Vector that only triggers on Chromium-family browsers on devices with a high pixel density. But unless I can confirm you experience the same issue I did on that outdated phone browser I can't file a Phab task. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:54, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2022-28

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Everard Richard Calthrop (3 March 1857 – 30 March 1927) was a British railway engineer and inventor. Calthrop was a notable promoter and builder of narrow-gauge railways, especially of 2 ft 6 in (762 mm) narrow gauge, and was especially prominent in India. His most notable achievement was the Barsi Light Railway, but he is best known in his home country for the Leek and Manifold Valley Light Railway. Calthrop has been described as a "railway genius.

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This Month in GLAM: June 2022



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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events
    • Upcoming:
      • The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, July 27th 2022 at 17:00 UTC (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
      • Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call July 12, 2022: Houcemeddine Turki will speak on "Enriching and Validating Wikidata from Large Bibliographic Databases." This call will be part of the 2022 LD4 Conference on Linked Data, “Linking Global Knowledge.” While you can attend the call directly via the links below without registering for the conference, we encourage everyone to check out the full conference program and all the excellent sessions on Sched at Agenda
      • 7/30 OpenStreetMap x Wikidata @ COSCUP 2022
      • 2022 LD4 Conference on Linked data. July 11th through July 15th, 2022
    • Ongoing
    • Past:
  • Development
    • Data Quality Days!
    • Making plans for improving EntitySchemas and integrate them more into editing and maintenance workflows
    • Implemented word-level diffs of labels, descriptions, aliases and sitelinks (phab:T303317)
    • Continuing the investigation about labels not being shown after some merges (phab:T309445)
    • Lexicographical data:
      • Continuing work on making it easier to pick the right language for a new Lexeme (phab:T298140)
      • Fixing a bug where `[object Object]` was shown in the gramatical feature field (phab:T239208)
      • Fixing a number of places where labels for redirected Items were not shown even though the redirect target had labels (phab:T305032)
    • REST API:
      • Finished the first version of the API route for creating statements on an Item (excluding autosummaries so far)
      • Started work on the API route for removing a statement from an Item

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


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Tech News: 2022-28

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
  • Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 12 July at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).

Future changes

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19:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Movement Strategy and Governance News – Issue 7

Movement Strategy and Governance News
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Welcome to the 7th issue of Movement Strategy and Governance News! The newsletter distributes relevant news and events about the implementation of Wikimedia's Movement Strategy recommendations, other relevant topics regarding Movement governance, as well as different projects and activities supported by the Movement Strategy and Governance (MSG) team of the Wikimedia Foundation.

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  • Movement sustainability: Wikimedia Foundation's annual sustainability report has been published. (continue reading)
  • Improving user experience: recent improvements on the desktop interface for Wikimedia projects. (continue reading)
  • Safety and inclusion: updates on the revision process of the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines. (continue reading)
  • Equity in decisionmaking: reports from Hubs pilots conversations, recent progress from the Movement Charter Drafting Committee, and a new white paper for futures of participation in the Wikimedia movement. (continue reading)
  • Stakeholders coordination: launch of a helpdesk for Affiliates and volunteer communities working on content partnership. (continue reading)
  • Leadership development: updates on leadership projects by Wikimedia movement organizers in Brazil and Cape Verde. (continue reading)
  • Internal knowledge management: launch of a new portal for technical documentation and community resources. (continue reading)
  • Innovate in free knowledge: high-quality audiovisual resources for scientific experiments and a new toolkit to record oral transcripts. (continue reading)
  • Evaluate, iterate, and adapt: results from the Equity Landscape project pilot (continue reading)
  • Other news and updates: a new forum to discuss Movement Strategy implementation, upcoming Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election, a new podcast to discuss Movement Strategy, and change of personnel for the Foundation's Movement Strategy and Governance team. (continue reading)

RamzyM (WMF) 01:39, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2022-29

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The Church of St. Clare, Horodkivka is a Roman Catholic religious building and an architectural monument of local importance in the village of Horodkivka (alternative spelling Gorodkivka), Andrushivka Raion, Zhytomyr region, Ukraine. Horodkivka was called Khalaimgorodok before 1946

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Wikidata weekly summary #529

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events
    • Upcoming
      • The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, July 27th 2022 at 17:00 UTC (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
      • Next Linked Data for Libraries Wikidata Working Hour July 18, 2022: Working with diverse children's book metadata. The second Wikidata Working Hour in the series will cover reconciliation in OpenRefine, so we can identify which authors from our spreadsheet of children's book metadata already exist and/or need to be created in Wikidata. You are, as always, welcome to bring your own data to work on. Event page
      • Assessing the Quality of Sources in Wikidata Across Languages - Wikimedia Research Showcase, Wednesday, July 20, at 9:30 AM PST/16:30 UTC
      • Mark your calendars for the Wikimania Hackathon! The free, online, public event will take place from 16- 22 UTC August 12 and 12-17 UTC August 13, and include a final showcase on August 14.
    • Ongoing
    • Past
  • Development
    • Lexicographical data:
    • REST API: Continued working on the API route to replace or remove a statement of an Item
    • We are making Wikibase resolve redirects when showing Item labels and descriptions in a lot more places; notably, this includes the wbsearchentities API. (phab:T312223)
    • Mismatch Finder: We are discussing options for how to improve its handling of dates, specifically calendar model and precision.
    • EntitySchemas: We are trying to figure out how to best technically go about implementing some of the most-needed features for version 2.

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