User talk:Dreg102

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Avono (talk) 19:40, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

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April 2015[edit]

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Christopher Dorner shootings and manhunt. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mlpearc (open channel) 20:57, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's not unsourced. But please do go on. Dreg102 20:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Christopher Dorner shootings and manhunt. Mlpearc (open channel) 21:02, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So, when will you stop vandalizing the page? Are you unfamiliar with what an assault rifle is? Dreg102 21:05, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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Your recent edits[edit]

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April 2015[edit]

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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So, I should allow incorrect information to stand? That violates the entire premise of allowing experts in a field to intervene. Dreg102 21:12, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Experts in a field aren't allowed to add original research to articles which is what you did when you added unsourced content that contravened the existing sourced content. Forcing your POV into articles without participating in good faith discussion to achieve consensus isn't helpful either. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:36, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If correcting terminology is "Forcing PoV", then I fear for the relevance of Wikipedia in 5 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreg102 (talk • contribs)

When you are informed that you don't have consensus for a change and are asked to be a mensch and change it back, but don't; and when you neither directly address the multitude of sources that call the weapon/sporting tool an "assault rifle" (contrary to your perspective); and when you don't respond at all to the proposed compromises; and when you offer a vague statement encouraging me to "[add] that section if [I] like", but then come back, revert the changes, and edit war with another disinterested editor—yeah, I think that qualifies as forcing POV. As to your fears for Wikipedia's relevance in 5 years, that's beyond my area of interest. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:27, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Except they also call it an "AR-15" It can't be both. But you refuse to read any supplied links. Dreg102 02:59, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Of course it can be both. What, you think the LAPD chief, an expert in his field, with his years of experience, can't have a differing opinion or consideration of what an "assault rifle" is? Do you think that journalists, professionals in their fields, can't have a differing opinion on what an "assault weapon" is? Do you think that everybody has to adhere to one narrow definition? Do you think that your source, which has an open agenda and solicits you "to use the following facts to correct misconceptions about these rifles" is an unassailable, definitive source on all things gun? Do you think that their opinion supersedes the dozen or more references that are in the article? Rhetorical question, since I've a good sense for what your answer will be. Also, I'll point out that your position is classic synthesis. You are combining two sources (the news sources + your NSSF source) to arrive at a conclusion that is not expressly stated by either source: i.e. that Dorner used "modern sporting rifles" during his rampage. Did the NSSF write anything specifically about the Dorner rampage? Doubt it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:11, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An AR-15 is a semi-automatic ONLY firearm. An assault rifle, by definition, has the ability to fire in either burst, or fully automatic. Dorner, being not related to the firearm industry, would not be covered by the NSSF. The police are there to protect, they are not there to provide expertise on firearms. Dreg102 04:31, 7 April 2015 (UTC)