User talk:Ebyabe/Archive 4

Unassessed NRHP articles links for AWB

Figured I'd go ahead and make up the list, since it's complete (for now). Check User:Ebyabe/gloppy1. Copy whatever bits you want into AWB. You don't need to copy the whole list, just a manageable chunk. I find if you do a few dozen, then some more, then some more, before you know it you've made a ton of progress! --Ebyabe 18:03, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

NRoHP

Can you verify that Meadows Foundation is on the national list? and write me at my page. No, your the expert, keep them off if its not correct. Only those with valid numbers should get the tag. Is there room in the info box for the registry number? It doesn't have to display. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 20:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC) This must be the source of the confusion: Six Mile Run Historic District (added 1995 - District - #95001191) Also known as See Also:Delaware and Raritan Canal and bridgetender's house Roughly bounded by Grouse Rd., Amwell Rd., Bennetts Ln., NJ 27, Bunker Hill Rd. and the Millstone R., Franklin Park

Historic Significance: Event, Architecture/Engineering Architect, builder, or engineer: Unknown Architectural Style: Colonial, Early Republic, Mid 19th Century Revival Area of Significance: Exploration/Settlement, Agriculture, Architecture Period of Significance: 1750-1799, 1800-1824, 1825-1849, 1850-1874, 1875-1899, 1900-1924 Owner: Private , State Historic Function: Agriculture/Subsistence, Domestic Historic Sub-function: Agricultural Fields, Agricultural Outbuildings, Animal Facility, Single Dwelling, Storage Current Function: Agriculture/Subsistence, Domestic Current Sub-function: Agricultural Fields, Agricultural Outbuildings, Animal Facility, Single Dwelling, Storage

They are all in the Six-mile run reservoir basin that was abandoned. How do you handle districts? May I add the listing number as a category in your template? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 20:57, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Or is this the field:

| Reference #: | {{{refnum}}}

Infobox

So should the info box for the district go on the article for Six Mile Run, New Jersey? Since thats the actual area? Its your call. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk • contribs) 21:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC).

I see, the problem is that the field must have been added to the box after it was transcluded to the article, because it doesnt appear in the one in the article. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 21:33, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

How does one link to a picture uploaded to the Commons? As of right now, it automatically enters image: in front of the syntax killing the link:

image:commons:image:StAnnesHillHDMap.svg

Thanks!--Kjmoran 18:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Elkman got to it first, which is good, as I'm not that familiar with the svg file format. Continued happy editing! --Ebyabe 18:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Aye, the laddie did. I found out you DO NOT need to address commons specifically for the link. Now, if I can get me SVG to display all the time, I'll be in business. ;)--Kjmoran 18:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I think it's time for another archive here!--Kjmoran 18:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Brookgreen Gardens

Take a look at it now. I believe I fixed it to where most should be able to see the Sections of pictures with dial up, then go to additional pages for more pictures. What do you think? --Doug ^talk 17:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Still too many pix, though, especially for the article's size. Most are on WikiCommons, which is part of the solution. I should be done with it shortly-ish. --Ebyabe 17:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Photography

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		And I thought I was the only one who took photo-taking road trips. Keep up the good work improving National Register of Historic Places articles with photographs. A mcmurray 20:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

You work way faster than I do, 40 in a day! Wow. I plan them out but I am open, I don't really mind stopping at scenic creeks flanked by bluffs in the middle of nowhereville Illinois. I usually take it a county at a time. Last Saturday I got some great stuff in about 5 communities in Ogle County, Illinois. I take a trip every other week, the Ogle County one probably knocked around 20 sites off the list to be photographed. But the adventure is part of it for me. Sites like the Buffalo Grove Lime Kiln and the Samuel M. Hitt House amaze me because they are so far off the beaten path and probably rarely taken in by anyone.

The best part of last weekend is that I had acces to a Nikon D100 along with my little Canon, I sure wish my Sony DSC-P150 still had it's charger, I will have to resolve that. But cameras are fun anyway. A mcmurray 22:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and, of course, I nominated another DYK, The Soldiers' Monument (Oregon, Illinois).A mcmurray 22:30, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm responding back here, as the back-and-forth drives me crazy. OK, crazy-er. So I hope you're watching this page, since I gotta watch on y'all's. ;)

I like to get out about once a month, but it depends on weather and such. I was holding off since November, in anticipation of the new digi-camera. Didn't wanna take too many pictures with disposable ones, when I'd soon be able to get better.

The money saved will help pay for the trips alone. Imagine how much it costs to buy 6 disposable cameras, get the pics developed, and have photo CDs for each one so I could upload them. All sortsa other bonuses I'm discovering.

I don't think I'll be able to do any major trips this weekend or next, as the weather's supposed to be especially yucky. We'll have to see...

I got a Kodak C875, with a max pic size of 8 MB, plus 5x optical zoom. Great for places that are fenced off, like the Strawn Historic Citrus Packing House District and Strawn Historic Sawmill District. Managed to find it with a package deal, so it came with a 1 gig memory card (holds over 400 pix, more than enough for a two-day roadtrip, when I do one of those), funky bendable min-tripod, battery charger and 4 rechargeable batteries (it only needs 2!), and other tidbits.

I tend to be very OCD about the trips. I overplan, really, as I'll have 60 or 70 sites on my list. But I'd rather have extra to get to on another trip, rather than run out. Mind you, a lot of this was predicated on not having the digital camera. I didn't want to "waste" shots of random landscapes and risk running out of film for specific places. But now I'm finding myself taking pictures of sunrises on the way to work, or sunsets on the way home, so I may indulge myself more on future trips, hurrah.

The route method works well for me. Figure where I wanna go, then see how many places I can hit on the way. Like this past Saturday I figured on going down US 17/92. First took a slight detour to catch the church in Umatilla and get breakfast. Then to DeLeon Springs, where I started with the two northern Strawn districts. De Leon Springs State Park next (I do them too), and not only did the park, but got some snaps of a manatee, too! Southwards until the Lake Mary Chamber of Commerce Building, where I ran out of light.

Also have did the more roundabout method in November. Up into the panhandle to Quincy, then down to Torreya State Park. Which is also an NRHP, so two birds! Continued to Blountstown to get the courthouse, thru Wewahitchka. Happened on the Old Gulf County Courthouse there, and it looked neat, so got that. Down to Port St. Joe and got everything there. Then along the coast on US 98 thru Apalachicola, Carrabelle, and up to Sopchoppy. By the time I got to Crawfordville there wasn't enough light to get decent pix of the courthouse there. Which is why I'm so happy about your discovery and my confirmation, as that's one of the ones on the list! Then 3 hours back in the dark. OK, I'll stop with that now. :)

You probably have similar problems to me, as Illinois is a long narrow-ish state like Florida. We have the panhandle thrown in, which makes things funkier. But at least I live in the middle of the state (Ocala), and am about equidistant from Miami and Pensacola. There's a couple of good folks in south Florida who are getting pix down there, so that's lower on my priority list. A two-day panhandle trip is in the near future, but my first two-day trip will be down US 27 and around Lake Okeechobee, then over to US 1 and A1A and north until sunset.

I don't mind driving in the dark, if it's thru areas I've been thru a bunch in daylight. So getting up an hour or two before dawn is worth it, in the long run. Maybe earlier for one of my trips, we'll see.

Enough of my ramblings. Have fun this weekend, wherever you wind up! -Ebyabe 17:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

A question

Ebyabe, I recently created a new page for the newly incorporated town of Grant-Valkaria, Florida. This town was incorporated from two formerly unincorporated areas (Grant and Valkaria). I can't figure out how to update the Brevard County city table listing at the bottom of the page. It still shows Grant and Valkaria seperately in the unincorporated section. You seem knowledgeable and I thought that I'd ask for your help on this. Thanks!Fl295 15:17, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

A-ha, I fooled you with my cleverly crafted illusion of competence. ;)

This was an easy fix, though. You should be able to see the update now. Cheers! -Ebyabe 15:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Yup, that did it. Thanks!Fl295 16:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Krause Music Store

Ebyabe, thanks for the dandy edits and tidy-up. At first I was going to revert it, until I noticed you had actually found new info I was unaware of. They really did nothing to the facade, but they did have a scaffold up for a couple days. Also, there's going to be no way of finding a citation for the repaired tile out front. The previous owner would always mention the damage to people who asked for a mini-tour, and I just noticed that they had restored it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Carl Boyd (talk • contribs) 13:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

Emerson Tower

Thanks for your edits on Emerson Bromo-Seltzer Tower. Vees 04:37, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

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TonyTheTiger 19:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your note, and thanks for your User Page. When I run across a Florida park, reserve etc page that I can help I work on it. I didn't know there was any systematic resource like your User Page -- it's great! I started several Florida articles, but the last one I started, someone put a merge tag on it to merge with a copyvio text. (I had carefully referenced my article, etc. from multiple sources.) The editor of the other article said that even though he had copied word for word from the website, it was O.K. because it was a government source. Do you know if this is true? Sincerely, Mattisse 14:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation. I have joined up. Dincher 20:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Cadillac Hotel

I was in Miami Beach last week for an inline skating tour (the Great EsSkate). I stayed just a few blocks north of the Cadillac Hotel. I also took pictures of the Ocean Spray Hotel, Beth Jacob Social Hall and Congregation, and the Miami Beach Architectural District (of course). I took a couple pictures of the Central Baptist Church (Miami, Florida) while skating by, but they aren't all that good; I'm not completely sure they're usable. (Also, I dropped the camera when taking pictures of it.)

Before I went skating, I went scuba diving in John Pennekamp Coral Reef State Park and took the camera underwater to get some nice shots of the fish around the reef. I'm hoping to post a couple of these pictures on the article, but in the meantime, you can see them at [1]. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 18:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Redmont Hotel

Since you have recently assessed the article on the Redmont Hotel, I wonder if you might be troubled to weigh in on a discussion regarding its content. (Talk:Redmont Hotel) --17:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

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NRHP Project

I was thinking, I have been spending a lot of time researching, photographing and writing articles about the various contributing structures within the Sycamore Historic District and the Oregon Commercial Historic District, bearing that in mind what would you think of a child project focusing on solely Historic Districts on the Register? I wonder if anyone else would be interested.A mcmurray 21:56, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

It's a possibility. The districts are like a slice of a town's history, so it's a good aspect upon which to explore and expand. I dunno if there'd be a lot of folks interested in it, as it's such a specific niche, but you never know. If you start it, I'll sign on and help.

Ironically, the districts are the thing I like least in my roadtrips, in some ways. Only in that with buildings, I can take a few pics and go on. With districts, I feel I have to take a representative sampling, which takes more time. Some of the districts are hardly worth it; a couple seem to be mostly composed of mobile homes now. Conversely, others practically make the trip worthwhile; the one in Quincy is great, and Brooksville (where I was this weekend, amongst other places) was gorgeous. -Ebyabe 13:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Another message

Hate to bother you with this redundant and arduous task, but . . .

Could you give University of Illinois Observatory a copy edit and go over. I reworked some stuff, hoping to submit it for GA. I may add some stuff depending on what digging through some journals turns up. Anyway, thanks for all the work you have done on this article and what is to come. Hope things are well.A mcmurray 20:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. I have a crapload of pics to sort through for uploading, as I took two roadtrips this weekend. Over 500 pics in 7 counties. I'll try to squeeze you in to my busy schedule though. :)

And almost got arrested! Piece of advice: when a sign says Only authorized personnel beyond this point, pay attention. Taking pictures of nuclear power plants, maybe not the brightest thing to do? But they let me keep my pics and camera, b/c they confirmed I wasn't a wacko. Wacky, yes, wacko, no. :) --Ebyabe 13:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I am going to respond to both messages here, it's just simpler. I'm still laughing at you about your misadventures at the nuclear power plant, which one? (That is something I have quite a lot of useless knowledge about too ;) ), at least you didn't end up in jail. I often wonder what people think when they see me snapping photos of random buildings in sub zero weather myself, the word wacky is probably apt.

As for the Observatory article, whenever you have time, no rush.

Districts. There's a real gem near the city I live in right now. Sycamore Historic District, about which I have been ranting incessantly. Since the district is practically in my city I went all out with it. I see it as an interesting niche as well, something you would never find in a paper encyclopedia, which is one of the reasons I love Wikipedia so much, before I did that stuff on the Sycamore district a Google search turned up nothing outside of the usual culprits, nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com and the lists here on Wikipedia. Anyway I am definitely interested in setting it up as either a child project of NRHP or a section, whatever you think would work best. I am willing to do this regardless of participation, mostly because you never know and the membership has been anything but static so newcomers may find the niche to their liking. I won't post about it in NRHP until I work out a page in my sandbox, I was thinking of just ripping off some of the stuff from the main page, I mean we could probably still use all the NRHP templates or design an additional template and place it on both the NRHP and district pages. Anyway, let me know what you think.

500 photos! Wow.A mcmurray 13:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I live to be the source of amusement, doncha know! It was Crystal River. And since I see there's an article for it, you know I'm gonna add pics, 'cause I went thru too much trouble getting them. It was cold down here (below freezing a couple of nights!), and standing outside in the very brisk and windy weather with the security guys whilst they ran a security check on me was more fun than a barrel of dead monkeys. They were nice about it, though, and I understand why they had to (9/11, sadly). Even joked that I wanted to take pictures of something that was less than 150 years old for a change. Ironic detail: I am a Progress Energy customer.

OK. Once I stop writing all these replies :)

And I drive thru the Ocala Historic District almost every day on my way to work. I finally walked the entire district and took pics. Not of every building, but as many as interested me. I have the last few of them to upload, then I'll add it the Project's picture list. Not gonna expand the article, mind you, just add lotsa pics. Maybe I can con the local historical society into doing it; they're really good.

Maybe the district project should start out as a section of the NRHP one? That way, if (when!) enough interest is generated, it can fission off on it's own. And nothing wrong with ripping off; I stole most of our project stuff from other pages. Talent borrows, genius steals, I like to say.

Said a lie, it's more like 460. Multiples of lotsa buildings. But that's what's great about digital cameras. One place (Chinsegut Hill Manor House) yesterday I probably took 2 dozen shots of, and will likely only use a few. But after von Trapping my way up a steep hill to get there, I was going to make it worthwhile. Walked around the whole dang place, and every few dozen yards it was like, damn, another potentially gorgeous shot. Funny thing about the nuclear plant, btw. I went right after to Crystal River Archaeological State Park (also on the NRHP), which contains mounds built thousands of years ago. Talk about your time warps! -Ebyabe 15:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

That's still an amazing amount of work, and at least, at least, you aren't in some back jungle CIA prison, hey? Anyway I have worked on this section thing, which I think I prefer to call Task Force Registered Historic Districts. Check out what I have so far at the bottom of my sandbox. Also I added another parameter to the infobox, "cp" gets type U.S. Registered Historic District Contributing Property. What'd you think?A mcmurray 20:36, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Looks fine by me. But you need to get some more sandboxes, dude, to separate out stuff. When you're going in as many different directions as we are, you gotta break things up into manageable chunks. That's why I have my gloppy sandboxes. No, I dunno why, the word just got stuck in my head, so I used it. Oh, and a bit more expansion on the "contributing property" concept, por favor. It's a bit fuzzy still; I know I've never heard of it. Which ain't saying much. *lol* Maybe list a few examples in the article itself? Just some random thoughts. Anyway, keep on keepin' on! ;) --Ebyabe 21:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, way too much stuff, way too much. I am contemplating moving Registered Historic District over to a new article called Historic district, which is just a redirect to a section in Historic Preservation right now. Then I will expand that, I have found some good info from the National Park Service. The contributing property expansion will happen soon, I just wrote it a few minutes ago, and I was thinking of writing one on non-contributing property in case there are locales that could be contributing but aren't and someone wants to do an article.A mcmurray 21:30, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Reply hazy, try again. Well, maybe not so much, but couldn't resist. And it's time to go home now. Later! :) --Ebyabe 22:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

So I got the task force section up and pretty much going, what'd you think? I just put the link on the main project page under "task forces" I figured that would be good unless you had a better idea in mind. In the meantime enjoy your time screwing up templates. ; )A mcmurray 17:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Lookee fine by me. And I'm UNscrewing up templates, thank-you-very-much-you-are-welcome-have-a-nice-day. ;) --Ebyabe 18:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Hahahahaha. : )A mcmurray 18:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Input

Can I get your input here. Talk:St. Mary's Roman Catholic Church (disambiguation), I thought the page would help the project, was I wrong?A mcmurray 15:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I'll come up with something. I created a whole crapload of disambig pages like that, so I have something to say, alright. --Ebyabe 15:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I was getting far too irritated to think rationally. I just created some pages and voila, problem gone, but I would hate to see that precedent get set because despite what the criteria for deletion say about not using the justification "article X was deleted so article Y should be deleted too" as a reason to support a deletion, it still happens all over those discussions.A mcmurray 16:39, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

You're quite welcome. I have a definite vested interest, 'cause of all the disambig pages I did. And like I said, why have people gone delete crazy? It's easier to destroy than create, I guess. --Ebyabe 16:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Must be the case. I will do that stub, do you think this is a good submission for GA? I have found some pretty ridiculous ones such as Fort de Chartres, which I am in the process of delisting. As for Gunn, haha, yeah I just added the architect info the other day so I hadn't gotten around to creating a stub yet but I did awhile back for equatorial room which I thought needed one even though the observatory is the only one that links there.A mcmurray 16:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Template in article space

Are you aware that Template Infobox nrhp/NRHP hd is not in the template namespace? Renata 05:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but Template:Infobox nrhp/NRHP hd is. The creator accidently made it at first without the colon. That's why I deleted the info in the incorrect one. But thanks for the heads-up anyway; it's not something many would have noticed, and the thought is appreciated. :) --Ebyabe 15:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

It is only because I never sleep. ; )A mcmurray 17:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

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