User talk:Emnew214

Tin tabernacles[edit]

Hi Emily: thanks for your message. Could you let me know some details, and I will update the Tin tabernacle article accordingly. As much as possible of the following info would be useful:

Name
Location
Denomination/affiliation
Sources of information to use as references (online or offline)
Link to an image which has a suitable licence (I can help with advising about this)

Many thanks! Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 18:23, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I have now added this to Tin tabernacle; I found a scholarly source with historical information. I found three photos on Wikimedia Commons (the picture repository associated with Wikipedia), but none are of great quality (see this link:

Media related to St Aidan's Church, Caythorpe at Wikimedia Commons) so it would be beneficial to have more. Because of the licensing requirements on Wikimedia Commons, you have to be happy to release certain rights to your photographs (i.e. copyright will no longer rest solely with you). The most commonly used licence is called "CC BY-SA 4.0". This link gives a brief summary of what people are allowed to do with the photograph. Basically anybody can "copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format" and "remix, transform, and build upon the material for any purpose, even commercially". If you are happy to release your photographs under these conditions, I will help you through the upload process and provide you with an encoded template to use. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 19:01, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes am happy. One reason for us doing this is to apply some pressure to encourage repairs as the windows are falling out and the exterior panelling is in a poor state. I guess I can edit the text but it would be opinion and not referenced although self evident in the pictures. Would that be acceptable? Emnew214 (talk) 19:06, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am a parish councillor and we have been, along with many other village inhabitants, trying to get some commitment from the church to make a decision about its future. It is attached to our village hall but they have removed the services that existed and then reinstated , post covid, one on a Tuesday afternoon which few are able to attend. Emnew214 (talk) 19:08, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's best practice not to include anything which could be construed as original research (even where this consists of self-evident commentary on photographs) because it will be in danger of being removed. As to the process for uploading your photographs, this is likely to be the quickest way to do it:

Click on this link: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&uselang=ownwork
If you are prompted to log in to Wikimedia Commons, use the same username and password as your Wikipedia one.
You should see a page entitled "Upload your own work", with a button below it labelled "Try the Upload Wizard instead". You can ignore that and scroll down to the bottom.
For each photo you have, follow the same process as follows:

Click on the "Browse" button alongside "Local filename" and navigate to where the photo is saved on your computer, then click "Open". This will show a preview of the picture.
If you want to change the name it will have on Wikimedia Commons, you can edit the field "Destination filename:".
Come back to this Talk page, click the "Edit" tab and copy the following code, exactly as shown. Do not include the "nowiki" tags: I have just added these so that the code displays properly on this talk page. Also don't copy it directly from this Talk page without clicking "Edit" because the code needs to be laid out in its horizontal format with each bit on a separate line, but unfortunately the Wikipedia interface displays it all in one long line unless you go into "Edit" mode.

== {{int:filedesc}} == {{Information |Description=St Aidan's Church, Caythorpe, Nottingham. |Source={{own}} |Date=2022-06-26 |Author= [[User:Emnew214|Emnew214]] |Permission= |other_versions= }} == {{int:license-header}} == {{self|cc-by-sa-4.0}} [[Category:St Aidan's Church, Caythorpe]]

Go back to the File Upload page on Wikimedia Commons. In the large box called "Summary", replace the pre-filled code with the code you have just copied from here. If the photos weren't taken today, change the "Date" field to the correct date, keeping the same YYYY-MM-DD format.
You don't have to add a licence or any categories because I have added those for you at the bottom of the code.
Click "Upload file".

Let me know when done and I will check that everything looks OK and make any edits if necessary. Also let me know if you need any help or have any questions about the above process.

Regarding the future of the church: speaking in a personal capacity and without the benefit of direct experience in this area, my first thoughts were to consider applying for Asset of community value status or listed status. However ACV status unfortunately cannot be granted to Church of England buildings or other assets, as they are subject to a legal exemption; and from my experience of tin tabernacles and the requirements of statutory listing, I suspect the church would not qualify because it has had too many alterations over the years to be considered a significant enough example of its type. Applying for listed status is also quite an involved process. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 19:34, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I went through the wizard but couldn’t see any box for summary.

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:St_Aiden%E2%80%99s_Church_Caythorpe_Nottinghamshire.jpg Emnew214 (talk) 10:59, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh I think I’ve uploaded it but if you are able to check that would be great. Thank you for your help. Emnew214 (talk) 11:06, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; everything looks fine with the upload and on the Tin tabernacle article. I have added it to the appropriate category on Wikimedia Commons, so it gets grouped with the other photos. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:10, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Realised I spelled Aidan wrong - any idea how I change that?! It gives me the option to change everything but the file title. Thank you Emnew214 (talk) 11:12, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've requested a Commons administrator to rename the file, and that will happen automatically within an hour or so. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:39, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]