User talk:Erfson
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Machine-translated text[edit]
Please do not insert machine-translated text into articles without proofreading and copyediting. You are free to put machine-translated text in your sandbox and drafting spaces as notes, but such text should not be in the article mainspace. If you need help writing articles and want someone to proofread your work, feel free to ask, but do not copy-paste google-translated text into articles. Thank you.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 16:57, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- PlanspotterA320, I insert machine-translated text as a base, so that we have the information, and then we can edit. The machine translated text was not intended as the final form. Erfson (talk) 18:22, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- Then please put it in your sandbox, copyedit it, and then put it in the article. Because machine translated text often has lots of technical, grammar, and formatting errors. Other users don't have time to fix every single article you've inserted machine translated text into - by the time we finish fixing one article, three more articles have machine-translated text added, creating a growing mess. Your sandbox is a great place to draft articles. I appreciate your enthusiasm and look forward to reading the articles you write, but we cannot allow pure machine-generated text to say in the article mainspace due to the huge amount of innacuracies and flaws from machine translation.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- Again, please time time to compose your articles in your sandbox before putting content in the article. Please don't do what you did with Malév Flight 110 again.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 20:54, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- @TonyBallioni: Can you please give this user some guidance? Not responding and ignoring my requests to follow certain rules. (Specifically, this is not how articles in the mainspace can be written...those have to be in sandboxes to be improved, but he just puts them out there)--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 20:17, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- Again, please time time to compose your articles in your sandbox before putting content in the article. Please don't do what you did with Malév Flight 110 again.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 20:54, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- Then please put it in your sandbox, copyedit it, and then put it in the article. Because machine translated text often has lots of technical, grammar, and formatting errors. Other users don't have time to fix every single article you've inserted machine translated text into - by the time we finish fixing one article, three more articles have machine-translated text added, creating a growing mess. Your sandbox is a great place to draft articles. I appreciate your enthusiasm and look forward to reading the articles you write, but we cannot allow pure machine-generated text to say in the article mainspace due to the huge amount of innacuracies and flaws from machine translation.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Erfson, yes, PlanespotterA320 is correct. Machine translations are inadvisable for any number of reasons. Additionally, there is the problem of copyright with them: if you're adding machine translated text word for word from another wiki without attribution, that violates our license. If you're doing it from a copyrighted source, that violates their copyright. Hope this is helpful. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:22, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi Erfosn. A couple of things about this article.
The first one is that blogs, personal websites, and other similar user-generated content are typically not considered to be reliable sources for Wikipedia's purposes. The information contained on such sites might be true, but they cannot be used as citations in support of article content, except under certain conditions like explained in WP:NEWSBLOG or WP:SPS.
Next, you shouldn't copy and paste large blocks of content found on external websites or in reliable sources directly into Wikipedia articles because this almost always going to be seen as a WP:COPVIO and WP:PLAGIARISM; even WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE is not allowed. Even if you cite a source in support, Wikipedia's licensing requirements and the licensing of the source are almost always in conflict which means Wikipedia would in a sense be infringing upon someone else's copyright. Short quotations are often allowed, but only if they meet MOS:QUOTE.
Finally, generally only subject deemed Wikipedia notable are considered OK to have articles written about them. Whether something/someone is Wikipedia notable is basically determined by whether it can be established that it/they has received WP:SIGCOV in reliable sources. I've asked about Gardner at WT:MILHIST#Elizabeth L. Gardner and so far the first response is not very positive; so, if you are aware of any old newspapers, magazines, books, etc. which have some substanial coverage of Gardner (not just a name mention in a caption or in a sentence), then please add those to the article as citations; if you're not sure how to do that, please see WP:REFB for some general information. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:38, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, the article was on a list of requested aviators for wikiproject:aircraft. Please explain why we should not have the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erfson (talk • contribs)
- Lots of articles are requested, but being requested doesn't mean they should be made. It also doesn't mean that article content should be copied-and-pasted in bulk from an external website onto an article's page just to create the article. FWIW, I only removed the copied-and-pasted text and did some other cleaning up. Although I did suggest in my response to your Teahouse question that you move the article to the draft namespace to allow you to continue to work on it, the editor who actually moved it there is John from Idegon. I also did ask about the article at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history, but so far the only response received has not been favorable. There was also something posted at Draft talk:Elizabeth L. Gardner#notability which also comments on the subject.If you feel that Gardner should have a Wikipedia article written about her, then you're going to have to establish how she satisfies WP:BIO or WP:GNG. I looked for more reliable sources about her, but I'm didn't find any significant coverage about her which could be used to help establish Wikipedia notability. Without showing that such sources at least exist, it's going to be hard to convince the Wikipedia community that she is Wikipedia notable for a stand-alone article to be written about her. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:07, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
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Ways to improve Elizabeth L. Gardner[edit]
Hello, Erfson,
Thanks for creating Elizabeth L. Gardner! I edit here too, under the username Slatersteven and it's nice to meet you :-)
I wanted to let you know that I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:-
Still not sure this would survive AFD.
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Ways to improve Elizabeth L. Gardner[edit]
Hello, Erfson,
Thanks for creating Elizabeth L. Gardner! I edit here too, under the username Slatersteven and it's nice to meet you :-)
I wanted to let you know that I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:-
At least two sources written by the subject.
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Slatersteven (talk) 14:52, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Deletion discussion about Elizabeth L. Gardner[edit]
Hello, Erfson,
Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Slatersteven and it's nice to meet you :-)
I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Elizabeth L. Gardner should be deleted. Your comments are welcome over Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elizabeth L. Gardner .
You might like to note that such discussions usually run for seven days and are not ballot-polls. And, our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.
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Slatersteven (talk) 15:12, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Elizabeth L. Gardner[edit]
On 12 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Elizabeth L. Gardner, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Elizabeth L. Gardner served as a WASP during World War II and was the subject of an iconic photo (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Elizabeth L. Gardner. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Elizabeth L. Gardner), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.