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Gandalf

Hi, this article has both been formally reviewed and is written in British English. I do not find your edits improvements, rather the reverse; nor indeed do I see them as at all necessary. Among their impacts are a change in tone; a change in date presentation; the naked display of disambiguating markers ("The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)"); the unjustifiable removal of British English idiom, e.g. "element fire" in place of the BE "element of fire"; the introduction of "hopefully" in a sense that is deprecated in British English, and that Tolkien would have hated; the cutting of the description of Gandalf; and the inexplicable cutting of the mention of Gandalf's letter, a crucial plot element. These are just examples. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:21, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

However I do agree with you that the narrative will benefit from a light copy-edit, as long as we don't lose any information from the account. I'll see to it now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Chiswick Chap, I disagree, and your wholesale revert of those edits is not appreciated. The sections I edited contained redundancies and went on at great length about plot details in a way that might be appropriate if this were a page about LOTR instead of a page about one character. The fact that the Gandalf article is listed as a good article is, quite frankly, surprising to me. It needs some work. EugeneMJ (talk) 13:28, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

You will see that I have already copy-edited the whole of the narrative section. I hope that is more to your liking. I'm not sure there are many plot details that could safely be omitted while leaving the narrative comprehensible, but if you feel that there are, we can of course work on those. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:30, 1 June 2022 (UTC)