User talk:Felipe Ridao

re:Pingpongo and Alex Asensi

Hi. Sure. My doubt regarding the sources in those article come from the sources apparently being (in the case of Pingpongo in this example): Wordpress documents (which anyone can create), antipodescafe (very blog-y of appearance), a link to the entire website http://fmlatribu.com/, the entire website http://www.worldalternativegames.co.uk/ (which looks like an okay source, but what part of it contains content relating to Pingpongo?), an article on vice.com (which looks like a proper source), an article on revistapaco.com (which looks okay), a reference to the entire website fotballfesten.no and a reference to an article on http://www.pingpongo.com.ar/.

The issues you've got is that most of the sources you've got on the Pingpongo and Alex Asensi article are basically (with a couple of exceptions in the case of the Pingpongo article, but not the Alex Asensi one) either WP:BLOGS or unspecified links to entire websites. Plus the articles have a very poor citation style, as is also noted on the top of the page. What is needed is reliable, third-party sources on these articles, instead of blogs. If that can be found, then one only needs to use proper citation styles, and it would be better. Manxruler (talk) 16:59, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Who are the "we" you are referring to in your message to me? Manxruler (talk) 17:04, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

So, I've checking antipodes cafe more closely. Apparently it's an "artist-run project" by an Uruguayan artist and a Norwegian "urbanist". Could be worse.

What do you mean by "...refer the image of the table"? There no image of a table at fotballfesten.no. Did you mean an article somewhere on the website fotballfesten.no? Then link that article, not the whole page. Fotballfesten is an okay site to cite, but then one needs to cite something other than the entire site.

Printed sources are fine.

It's okay to put a link to http://www.pingpongo.com.ar/, but did you read WP:BLOGS? Reliable sources are generally not the self-published ones.

Finally, am I correct in assuming that you are the Felipe Ridao who is a pingpongo player from Uruguay? The one mentioned five times in the Pingpongo article? If you are, then you need to read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. There might be a problem. Manxruler (talk) 19:02, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

— hallo, i don't know if i have to answer here or in your page, ill try here now... thanks for your answer again ! is nice to learn about how to do things properly. The link to fotballfesten was in two places, one in a tournament (which i removed it now) and one in the footnote of an image. i think that one is nice to keep it since you can see that the table is the same where people drink their beers watching football. i can understand the thing about blogs that you mentioned. i think can be better if this association of argentina change their website out from blogs.

Here's okay. I see how you've done it with regards to fotballfesten, a bit out of the ordinary, but sure.

Even if the Argentine pingpongo association were to create a regular website, it still would be a self-published website. What is needed is third-party sources.

So, are you Felipe Ridao, the Uruguayan Pingpongo player? Manxruler (talk) 21:51, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

— hallo and thanks again, it seems that my message didn't went all, well, i wrote something like this: in relation with the article i read it properly now and now I understand more… and i have to highlight before whatever that my intentions are full of good faith to share that this sport exist and thats all my aims and no other. im mentioned several times because i arrived to two finals and because i am in the ranking. that is a coincidence and in future for sure I'll be out of ranking and then out of article... But is not a coincidence that i like this sport and therefore i am here midnight correcting this article to make it better as i saw it has problems with references; as people who like to play beer pong are writing about that for example… but anyway, i honestly assume my ignorance of this free Encyclopedia, and i guess that the best is that i do not continue editing this article to avoid conflicts and that this article is censored or deleted. no? or i should delete all my little corrections to this article? whats your name? thank you for your answers again.

The thing is, if you are closely associated with this sport, then Wikipedia:Conflict of interest (COI) might come into play. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a tool to promote things or people.

There's no need for you to stay out of the sport, but as I said your apparent high-level participation (as indicated by the Pingpongo article) may indicate a conflict of interest. That may be the case, although I'm not sure.

I'm certainly no COI expert, and what I would advice, is that you ask the people over at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard if your level of involvement in the sport creates a conflict of interest.

Why do you want to know my name? Manxruler (talk) 16:57, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

And now it turns out that the person behind the main source for both the Pingpongo and Alex Asensi articles - "antipodes café" - (and you said, "antipodes café is the one in charge of pingpongo in norway") is also called Felipe Ridao. Is that you as well? Manxruler (talk) 17:20, 9 September 2014 (UTC)