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Copyright violations[edit]

Please don't copy and paste copyrighted text and images into Wikipedia articles, as you did with Peć (the content clearly came from http://www.albanian.com/information/countries/kosova/peja/index.html ). We have to be very careful with copyrights. Please see Wikipedia:Copyrights for more information. -- ChrisO 00:27, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally I am the writer of that page as I it was copied from a website I used to manage/own. So such talk of me having copied copyrighted material is not true. People at Albanian.com will tell you so if you ask them. In any case, I will not revert it back as I think you did a pretty good job in summarizing the history of the city. I still think there is room for improvement thought. May I ask you why you removed the picture? For your information, that picture is not copyrighted by that Albanian page either.

Thanks for clearing that up. On the issue of the picture, Wikipedia:Image use policy requires us to state the copyright of every image added to the site. If an image's copyright status is unverified, as it was in this case, then it will be deleted. You can tag an image with an appropriate copyright tag - see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for more info. -- ChrisO 15:29, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Changes made: “It also gained an Islamic character with the construction of a number of mosques, several of which still survive.” The word several will be changed to “many” as that is a more accurate description of the current situation.

“The 14th century Dečani Monastery, a UNESCO World Heritage Site, lies about 19 km south of Peć” has been changed to “The 14th century Dečani Monastery, a UNESCO World Heritage Site, lies about 19 km south of Peć in nearby Decani”. Your sentence leaves the impression that Decani Monastery is in Pec, which is clearly no the case. The Decani Monastery is in Decani, a different city, and there is no reason why that shouldn’t be mentioned.

Questions: I am actually thinking about removing any reference to the Decani Monastery completely as it has nothing to do with Pec. Give me a reason why I shouldn’t remove it?

Another question: You mention Serb institution by name, e.i Decani Monastery, by name even though they are not in the city, but you fail to mention any Albanian institutions, e.i the Bajrakli mosque and League of Peja etc, that are actually in the city and therefore more relevant to this page. Explanations please! Again, these are some of the reasons why there is room for improvement. I look forward to your answers and the dialogue.--Ferick 14:18, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's worth mentioning Decani in the context of the area's importance to Serbian Orthodox Christianity. It's certainly also worth mentioning the Albanian institutions but I'm afraid I don't have much information on them - if you want to add some info, please do! -- ChrisO 15:29, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Ftese[edit]

Pershendetje Ferick, se pari te uroj suksese ne studime ne Amerike. Gjithashtu te ftoj te na vizitiosh ne faqen Kosovo te na ndihmosh t'i kundervihemi dashakeqeve te shtetit tone. Ju pershendes, Ilir pz 22:56, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Articles on Albanians[edit]

You are welcome to contribute.

Best, Ilir pz 01:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ferick I am totally confused with your edits. Not sure what to answer to your comments and questions in my talk page. can you clarify?Ilir pz 17:58, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Mistake, I thought you wrote those accusations, and seems like it was CCCC. Not surprised. About the reverting to better versions, you click on the History, and click on the date when you think the best version existed. Then you clic "edit this page" and just "save", and write down in the Comments the reason you did that revert. By the way, why did you remove my comments to Rastavox? he had some questions in KLA talk page. there was nothing bad in that. Greetings.Ilir pz 18:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I am not sure what you mean by "why did you remove my comments to Rastavox"? I am lost.

No problem. I was talking about this [1]. But never mind. Good luck! Ilir pz 21:15, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please discuss your contributions instead reverting for no particular reason? --Asterion talk to me 15:02, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I do have a reason and it's clearly stated. I have contributed quite a bit a while back. Now I am more of a fact checker as everything that needs to be said has already been said.Ferick

Considering the sources are all from Western media and academia, I find your "Serbian government propaganda" comment an insult. I have spent a good time researching and verifying the sources I used. Wikipedia is not a matter of personal preferences: You may not like that the KLA was once considered a Terror Organisation, but that does not change the facts. I would appreciate some constructive criticism instead Ad Hominem attacks. Regards,

No they are not."GOVERNMENT OF SERBIA (2003): Albanian Terrorism and Organised Crime in Kosovo-Metohija (White Book), pp 9-14"—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferick (talkcontribs)

If you bother to differ the edits[2], you will realise that I simply added the reference link and left the text as it was in Ilir's edit. If you are not happy with it, simply remove the <ref> link and keep the White Book on external links. Is that OK with you? --Asterion talk to me 15:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why would I agree to leave Serb government propaganda links when there is no pro Albanian links? I don't get it! Ferick

Has the KLA got an official site? I can't see why there should not be some balance. Regards, --Asterion talk to me 15:45, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

KLA doesn't exist. You are not making any sense.Ferick 15:58, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But it did. Therefore there should be some websites out there (of supporters). --Asterion talk to me 16:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Supporters? the war is over, Asterion. Ilir pz 16:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do not put words in my mouth. Websites are generally kept online for ages, if not a link to a decesead one via www.archive.org would help. I am happy with Ilir's link. --Asterion talk to me 16:15, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
KLA transformed into KPC and has created its political wing Democratic Party of Kosovo. Ilir pz 16:12, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you.

And you are?Ferick 14:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware of that fact. Ilir too. The point is it is strictly unnecessary to edit-war. This only leads to further reverst by Boris and the like to a real biased version. I offered you a balanced article but you negated the chance. This is just a silly situation. --Asterion talk to me 18:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who said you article was balanced? You are making that assertion huh?Ferick 19:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Familiarise yourself with Wikipedia. It is about showing all verifiable POV and choosing no one over the other. --Asterion talk to me 19:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, Interesting. There is a point of view that says Hitler was justified in killing Jews. Should that be treated equally as all other POV? I don't think so. Wikipedia is not about showing all POV. If that was the case we would have a minimum of 10 POV on every historical event, and Wikipedia would become a mess. Wikipedia is about showing all POV that are based on facts. No place for myths here…….Ferick 22:22, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Undoing each other's edits is unreasonable. One can get into a "death" loop of reverting, and it is hard to stop. At one point you realize, you wasted precious time, and in the end some version (maybe damaged one) prevails. Instead try to agree to disagree, talk more in the discussion page. In this case, Asterion, I would suggest not using sources that were prepared by the sides directly involved in the conflict, and try instead to cover the problem using other neutral sources. Using derrogatory terms (terrorist, horrible, fascist, etc) just heats up the bloods. Ilir pz 00:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is that why you removed the MIPT source too? With all due respect, I refactored all the "offending" terms and you still carried on with the removals. This only leads to people coming to the page, reading it, getting offended for thinking it is single-sided and biased, basically causing more revert wars. This is not the way forward. I would ask you to restore the links. If that makes you feel happier, refactor the name of the White Book to simply that White Book. I will ask for a Request for Comments in the noticeboard to ask for an independent opinion. Regards, Asterion talk to me 03:11, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Kujdes[edit]

Ferick, ki kujdes me nderrimet ne artikullin e UCK-se. Eshte nje qe e mbikqyr tash me kujdes, e mundet me ta pamundesu editimin. Aresyetoj ndryshime tua, e do te jete me lehte te bindet ai. Vec i ka ndalu disa me heret qe nderrojshin pa arsyetime. tung, ilir_pz 22:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reason: Unreliable Source.Ferick 22:47, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Une te kuptoj. Po flas per tjeret, sic te thashe, ja ky me poshte.ilir_pz 22:49, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing links from Kosovo Liberation Army[edit]

Ferick,

You've repeatedly been deleting links to a Serbian government document on the Kosovo Liberation Army. Please don't do this. The document may well not be truthful, but it's a definitive statement of the Serbian POV. As such, it needs to be included in the article. Deleting references is, in general, a bad idea. Also, please don't mark changes like that as "minor" - they're not. -- ChrisO 22:48, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, removing a line from a 3 page article is a minor edit. I guess I am going to have to translate something from KLA Veteran's Association and bring it here to balance the sources. Just giving you heads up that that will be a biased and inflammatory article. I expect that no one will challenge it.Ferick 22:55, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing a line and a reference is not a minor edit. Help:Minor edit: a minor edit "implies trivial changes only, such as typo corrections, formatting and presentational changes and rearranging of text without changing any content."
As for the KLA VA thing, if it already exists on the Internet, feel free to link it - we should have sources representing both sides. -- ChrisO 22:58, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon me for assuming common sense applies here("Removing a line and a reference is not a minor edit").Ferick 23:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about common sense, but I do know what Wikipedia defines as a "minor edit". :-) -- ChrisO 23:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing against you, just stating the fact that common sense doesn't always apply in Wiki.Ferick 23:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on a page. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. -- ChrisO 20:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about CCCC. How many edits has he done? I will continue to edit and remove false and malicious info despite your threat. I have my ways of getting around it if need be.Ferick 20:55, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Same number of reverts as you - he's on the threshold (3 reverts in 24 hours), and I've warned him too. Also, it's not a threat, it's a promise. :-) And if you try to "get around" it you will be blocked. Edit warring and sockpuppeting aren't valid methods of resolving disputes on Wikipedia. -- ChrisO 21:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There we go! He should be blocked on the basis of admitting to conspire against Wikipedia and ruin it!!! C-c-c-c 22:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ferick, mos iu pergjigj provokimeve te ketij pisit ketu siper. Po te provokon ne cdo menyre, si ty ashtu edhe mua. Pra dihet qellimi i pisave si ky. Te keshilloj te mos ia perfillesh aspak fjalet, po vazhdo pa iu pergjigjur kerkesave te tij. Te pershendes. ilir_pz 21:21, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ky majmun njeri ishe.Ferick 23:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Si shumica e bashkeatdhetareve te tij. po ky eshte femije gjashtembedhjete vjec, pra nuk ia vlen me u marre me kete. :)ilir_pz 23:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ferick, I have removed the mention of "Commander of the Camp" but do not reinstate the wording "a prisoner guard", which is factually incorrect, as discussed in the article talk page. I would also like to remind you to behave in a civil way and respect verifiable sources. If your disrupting reverts continue, I will feel forced to request some kind of third-party intervention, maybe even a CheckUser procedure. I hope you understand my concerns. Regards, E Asterion u talking to me? 06:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t care too much about threats. All I care about is making the article factually correct. Perhaps a “prison guard commander” would resolve this dispute.Ferick 13:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was not a threat at all, but a call to civility. I can't stand edit wars. I like your suggestion. Thanks, E Asterion u talking to me? 14:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Ferick, I have added your suggestion and found the reference to back your appeal mention, which was missing from the article. This is not an original source from the ICTY but a mention in a news article. If you want, you could try to find a better one. I am too busy myself. Regards, E Asterion u talking to me? 18:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok,I can live with that.Ferick 19:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Albanians in Montenegro[edit]

I'm not removing the fact, which I'm quite satisfied belongs in the article. I'm cutting it from two mentions down to one. It belongs in the "Independence" section all right, but it shouldn't also be the fourth sentence of the article The Tom 04:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No personal attacks[edit]

Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. -- ChrisO 07:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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"Ferick, some people are determined to piss you off, that is life, but don't fall a victim to their provocations" ilir_pz 08:51, 24 May 2006 (UTC)|}[reply]

Great sources[edit]

Thanks Ferick, good sources you have found. Try to incorporate them in the text now, be that in parts of Kosovo or Kosovo war. It is very important to write the truth there. I will try to help when I find some time. Take care,ilir_pz 09:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your company[edit]

Hi Ferick, I wanted to ask you something about your company. Care to drop me a line in iliripz(at)hotmail.com? Greetz, ilir_pz 14:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovo article[edit]

Ferick, there is now clearly a majority consensus over the form of the introduction. Please don't act against consensus again. Your preferred version is simply not appropriate or accurate, as discussed on the talk page. -- ChrisO 07:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do not remove verifiable and sourced information. Regarding non-working links, do not remove them either but revive them using www.archive.org links. Thanks, --E Asterion u talking to me? 14:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding using www.archive.org links, I'm not sure what the point of that would be - can you direct me to a policy or guideline that requires us to do that? -- ChrisO 14:54, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a requirement, but it is preferrable than getting rid of the whole lot altogether. Please see Wikipedia:Using_the_Wayback_Machine. --E Asterion u talking to me? 15:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - I'll see whether the WM has those links archived or not. -- ChrisO 15:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

POV warning[edit]

Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's NPOV policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Furthermore, reinserting the same commentary multiple times may cause you to violate the three-revert rule, which can lead to a block. -- ChrisO 20:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, I don't give a rat's ass about your threats. You will not be allowed to impose your partial views on wikipedia. And again, for the fifth time now, I do not care about your threats. What part of this you don’t understand?
So you're in favour of imposing partial views on Wikipedia? I think the rest of us had already realised that!
It's simple enough. The UNMIK constitutional framework page that you like to quote says nothing whatsoever about sovereignty, which is dealt with in UNSCR 1244. See the reference on that page to "pending a final settlement"? The "final settlement" is of the sovereignty issue, which is the fundamental issue in the current talks (see e.g. [3]). There wouldn't even be talks if Kosovo was already independent - there wouldn't be any need to discuss independence, would there?
Your preferred version fails on every count of our fundamental policies - it's blatantly POV, it's simply untrue, your source doesn't support it and it's original research (see What is excluded?). If you can find a reputable source that explicitly supports your position then we might think about including it. However, if you don't want to follow Wikipedia's fundamental policies then I suggest you go somewhere else. -- ChrisO 23:02, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello[edit]

Could you please read up (if you haven't already) WP:POV and WP:NPOV? --HolyRomanEmperor 16:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No,thank you very much!Ferick 18:28, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, thank you very much?!? But... OK, I'm lost over here, could you give me a hand over 'ere? --HolyRomanEmperor 14:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, do i know you?Ferick 16:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope - but I am still wondered by your last reply... --HolyRomanEmperor 22:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well...[edit]

I have read the rules and I didn't know such a thing existed. As I've understood, you can report me only after I make an edit to the article in question after the warning, so you can't report me yet. --KOCOBO 05:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I usually give people the benefit of the doubt, but somehow I don’t believe you. I just let a message w/administrator regarding your edits.Ferick 05:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know, and you broke the rules, you're supposed to report it here: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. The fact that you don't believe me doesn't allow you to break the rules. For shame. --KOCOBO 05:56, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stop this witchhunt, you know I'm not gonna get blocked because I didn't know the rules, you should've told me. So just leave me alone, and leave articles related to my country alone (including Vojvodina and Kosovo i Metohija). --KOCOBO 06:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation time[edit]

I don't think we're getting anywhere here, particularly since you've openly rejected WP:NPOV and you're refusing to discuss sources. Accordingly, I've submitted a request for mediation. Please indicate on that page whether you consent to having the matter mediated. -- ChrisO 09:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism?[edit]

OK, you are accusing me of vandalism, yet you constantly remove any traces of Serbia in every Kosovo-related article? Come on, who are you kidding... I know you consider Kosova independent, I know you can't wait for that to be officially recognized, but adding Serbia and Kosovo as different countries in the Roma article, and similar acts of vandalism is not going to help Kosovo become independent. If you really want to help your people, stop living the good life in the USA, go share your wealth with the 50% of Kosovars who are unnimployed and are starving to death. You are not even a patriot, you are just ignorant. I will continue reverting your vandalism (the removal of the word "Serbia" in all Kosovo-related articles will not be tolerated) and you can report me to ANYONE you like, because I'm not the system, and the system will crush you, with or without me. --KOCOBO 04:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not make personal attacks[edit]

Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. --digital_me(TalkˑContribs) 04:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your attempt to give some sense to this new user. However, I do disagree with you in calling the following a personal attack. The only reason I wrote this was that in another occasion (after which he got blocked) he told me to warn him before I invite admins, claiming he didn’t know the rules. In any case, there is nothing personal in this paragraph – I condemn his action not him (unlike him).

“You’re going to get yourself banned again, and this time for a long time. Have you realized that you have not engaged in any discussion page since you joined wiki, yet you have made numerous edits-which amounts to vandalism? I have checked all your edits so far, and the evidence is overwhelming to get you banned. Next time I will report directly to an administrator as it is impossible to reason with you. You broke the 3RR rule again in here[[4]] in addition to interrupting a process (vote) here [[5]]” Ferick 05:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vote Stacking[edit]

No Ferick, that was not my intention. I actually don't like the idea of inviting users of a certain group to participate in a vote just because you know they will vote one way or another not because of an informed analysis but due to their preconceptios. But KOSOBO already edited the page (by reverting you), and I told him that rather than continuing the edit war he should vote in the talk page and end the dead-lock at least temporarily. I admit though that even going that far might have been unethical, but I simply acted impulsively when I contacted him, it wasn't a fully rational decision on my part and I apologize for that.

In any case, I think the whole buisness about that page and the infobox has been a rather unnecessary issue. It is not as if Kosovo's independence depends on the ommission of the Serbia_topics infobox or vice versa. For my part, I can honestly say that I did not add the box because of political considerations but for practical reasons. I was looking at Demographic history of Vojvodina and then used the bar to go the Kosovo page out of curiosity. Once there I was going to go to another link of the infobox, but remarked that it was missing and I looked at the edit history and saw that Litany was adding it while you where removing it, so I put it back. I never thought such a trivial matter would reach great proportions. TSO1D 22:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No personal attacks - final warning[edit]

This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption. -- ChrisO 22:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon me? Ferick 02:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello[edit]

My name is Avdo. I wish to talk to you regarding the Kosovo article. I have seen your contributions and many comments, and would like to give you my honest advice. First of all, I would like to say that I consider myself a Yugoslav, but certainly respect my country of Serbia. Second of all, I would like you to know that my main goal for Kosovo is peace, and I don't care if Kosovo stays in Serbia, or if Kosovo becomes independent, or even if it becomes part of Albania. The status matters not to me, and I only care about the safety and freedom of all of the people of Kosovo. I know that it's hard for all Albanians to try to forgive and forget, I hearby apologize in the name of my country for any oppression and killings my country has caused to the Albanians in Kosovo. I am sorry. I know that it will take a long time for Albanians to forgive Serbia and the people who live in it, but fighting will not solve anything. Now, I see you are removing Serbia-related content from Kosovo-related articles. I know Albanians want Kosovo to become independent (and listen to me, IT WILL, EVERYONE IN SERBIA IS AWARE OF IT, trust me), but right now, it's still a part of Serbia. I have a deep respect for this encyclopedia, and since I have decided to help out, I want to stick to the facts, and not emotions. Don't worry, in no time, you'll have a Kosova passport, citizenship, this is obvious to everyone. But, for now, please try to understand that Kosovo is still officially a part of Serbia, no matter how much you resent that fact (and I know you have reasons to be hostile towards us). So, I would really appreciate it if you wouldn't constantly hide the word "Serbia" from Kosovo-related articles, not for me, not for Wikipedia, but for yourself, to show that you're mature enough to peacefully support your soon to be country's independence and not anger some people (especially Serbs) by making unneccessary edits. My friend, when Kosovo becomes independent, I will help you remove the "Serbia" related words from every Kosovo-related (Kosova-related) article, this I promise you. My sincerest regards, --GOD OF JUSTICE 05:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not concerned about the future status of Kosovo either. No amount of writing by me or you or anybody else will change the future status of Kosovo. My goal here is to make every article reflect reality on the ground!Ferick 20:32, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That was not my point, I'm affraid you have misunderstood me. My friendly advice was to try to understand other editors in what they do, in the way that I have tried to understand "the other side". Reality can be different for different people, and I'd like you to understand that. There is no right and wrong, there are only opinions. Facts today are not reliable, neither are people who make them. You can't know what is reality untill you hear both sides of the story, in particular, the Albanian and Serb. I'm not saying either of the sides is right, but both need to be taken into consideration. If you constantly represent only one side of the story, people will not take you seriously, and I think you should be taken seriously, because you seem like a very intelligent person. This is only my friendly advice, you have a right to your own decision. --GOD OF JUSTICE 23:09, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I didn’t misunderstand you at all. I understand exactly where you are going with this, but when all said and done there is only one reality. Just because there are diverging points of view, that doesn’t mean there many realities. Reality, whatever it is, should be represented in all these articles –nothing else. If your goal is to represent reality, you will not butt heads with me-that’s a guarantee! I am sure we will cross roads again, but in the meantime enjoy wiki.Ferick 02:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not butting heads with you, don't get me wrong. I am supporting Kosovo independence, because its better for Serbia, and for Kosovo. I also, however, understand that Kosovo is not independent yet, this is a reality, it is not an opinion, of course. But, reality is different for different people, if you ask an Albanian living in.. Prizren if Kosovo is a part of Serbia, he's going to say no, if you ask an Orthodox priest in Kragujevac if Kosovo is a part of Serbia, he's going to give you a 3 hour lecture on how Kosovo is the heart of Serbia. Do you see what I'm trying to say? I'm not picking a fight with you, and I'm sensing hostility from you, so I'd like to tell you that it is a reality that Kosovo is still a part of Serbia, and I hope you agree (?), therefore I'd like to ask you to explain to me what is the goal you are trying to achieve here? Because so far I've seen you getting into a conflict with everyone that doesn't share your opinion, and then I come along, and I agree that Kosovo should be independent (and it will), and you threaten me not to butt heads with you? Did I say something wrong? --GOD OF JUSTICE 03:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Skenderbeg division[edit]

Dear Ferick,

I need your help. Could you please explain me why you think that source that I named for the information considering crimes of Skenderbeg division during WW2[6], isn’t reliably. Please note the bibliography used by the author of this article Carl Kosta Savich. If this is not enough, could you please inform me what kind of sources would you consider as reliably about this subject? I am addressing to you first because I don’t want to start one of the endless discussions. --Marko M 07:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

www.rastko.org.yu is not a reliable source.Bibliography used by the author has no bearing in whether the source is reliable or not. That's all.Ferick 20:32, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't wish to get into discussing the specifics of the Skenderbeg division issue, but could you both please take a look at Wikipedia:Reliable sources for guidance on this issue? In particular, see WP:RS#Self-published sources. There's a strong presumption against using such sources and Carl Kosta Savich's piece does appear to fall into this category. I suggest looking for published book, journal and newspaper articles on this issue, rather than relying on personal essays by unknown authors. -- ChrisO 07:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia needs your help[edit]

Well, I guess you could help out with this translation: Prof.DR.Jahja_Kokaj. Regards, E Asterion u talking to me? 19:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to do that, but I don't have time at the moment.Ferick 17:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My Ordeal has Ended[edit]

My ordeal has finally ended. I was blocked one week for “suspected of being a suck puppet” with no prove whatsoever by an administrator named RadioKirk [7], and finally unblocked with an apology [8], [9]. I had to go through so many hassles [[10]] to prove myself innocent. Thanks to all those who vouched for me, and especially User: Asterion. Everybody else who didn’t believe me (with no prove on their side): Hope you experience the same thing to get a taste of your own medicine. My advice is this: You can be blocked anytime with no warning and with no reason, but don’t give up. If you are innocent, truth is on your side!Ferick 17:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Glad all got sorted at the end. Please also remember that people make mistakes, don't be bitter with RadioKirk. On a different matter, I believe you live in Kansas City, Missouri. If that is the case, I would like to ask you a favour if you don't mind. I presume you know The Plaza. Well the case is that my city were I was born in, Seville, is sistered with Kansas City. The Bell Tower in the Plaza is a scaled replica of Seville's Giralda. I have been working on this last article and it could well do with a picture of the Giralda replica in Country Club Plaza. I found a picture on wikipedia already[11], but it's missing the top of the tower. I guess this is a long shot but I don't know anyone else living in the area or whether you have access to a camera or not, but I thought it was worth to try. Regards, E Asterion u talking to me? 18:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That’s interesting. I do indeed live very close to the Plaza (about 10 min driving) and go there a couple of times a week to hang out with my friends. It’s the closest setting to a European city you can get here in the U.S. I am also aware of the fact that the whole architecture of the Plaza (not just the tower) is a very close replica of Seville. I have a lot of picture (lived right on the plaza for 4 years) that I can send to you. I also know the Lebanese American who owns half of the Plaza. It’s a great place. Let me know how I can send you pictures and help you further with this.Ferick 20:36, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Funny old world! I am glad I asked you. You can either email them to me or uploading them to wikipedia yourself (even if I you email them to me, I would still credit them to you after uploading them, of course). Thank you very much. E Asterion u talking to me? 20:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I sent them to your email.Post the links here if you decide to upload any of the pictures.Thanks Ferick 21:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I may have come to a conclusion to soon. Here again:

Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing. You were blocked by Kilo-Lima for the following reason (see our blocking policy): Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Skanking". The reason given for Skanking's block is: "sockpuppet of User:SqueakBox".

Your IP address is 64.233.173.67. Ferick 00:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Albanian names[edit]

Hi, Ferick.
You've said "You are correct here User_talk:Ilir_pz#Albanian_-qi. Where did you encounter these names?".
Can you be more specific? You wanna know specifically why I've mentioned "Muriqi, Krasniqi" or something else? Kubura 08:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I know these surnames from before. Muriqi were brothers, soccer players that played for Priština (Xhevat and Fadil Muriqi) in 1980's and 1990's. Later Xhevat played in Croatia, Fadil played in Spain. Krasniqi was also known surname, I can't remember where it was known. You know something about these persons?
Where does your interest for Kosovo comes from?
Greetings, Kubura 09:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Nice to have you back[edit]

Mirë se u ktheve Ferick. Unë nuk jam edhe aq aktiv por pashë se të kishin bllokuar para disa ditëve. Shumë u hidhrova pasiqë që ju jeni pothuajse i vetmi që po mundohet të jetë objektiv në lidhje me Kosovën.

Tung

They blocked me by mistake, but I am ok now.Ferick 21:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did you talk to RadioKirk to get the autoblock sorted or did it just expire? E Asterion u talking to me? 23:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

External links: Balkan Update (pro-Albanian)[edit]

Ferick, just curious, are you the publisher of the blog Balkan Update listed in the pro-Albanian external links in the Kosovo article?Osli73 23:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever owns it, we can't link to it anyway - it's stuffed full of copyright violations. To quote WP:EL, "Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States (Intellectual Reserve v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry). Also, linking to a page that illegally distributes someone else's work sheds a bad light on us (see Wikipedia:Copyrights and in particular Wikipedia:Copyrights#Contributors' rights and obligations)." I've deleted it from the list of external links. -- ChrisO 06:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ferick, could you provide me with a URL for some of the copyvio material you say you found on kosovo.net? I had a look but everything seems to be copyrighted to "KIM Info-Service", the people who run the website. -- ChrisO 13:49, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure: Some of them include [12].[13],[14],[15], [16]...........

Thanks, that's fair enough then. I'm happy for the link to be deleted in that case.

Funny that you investigate pro-Albanian links, but not pro-Serbia ones.Interesting......Ferick 22:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring warning[edit]

Please stop edit warring with Bormalagurski on Kosovo Liberation Army. Your POV deletions of cited content and blind reversions (including reverting spelling corrections!) is unacceptable. I will be taking your continued misconduct on a number of articles to an user-conduct RFC shortly. If necessary, I will take the matter to arbitration, with a view to obtaining a ban on your editing of Kosovo-related articles. I hope this won't be necessary and that you take the opportunity to correct your behaviour. -- ChrisO 21:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

KLA article[edit]

Hi Ferick, please calm down. Do not tease or get personal at Bormalagurski and/or call him a vandal. I am leaving the same message at his page. Thanks, E Asterion u talking to me? 21:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If he calls me a vandal when I have been blocked for such a think (which amounts to an insult), I can easily call him so considering that he has been blocked several times for such a thing. So there is no moral equivalency here. He is indeed a vandal & I am not!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferick (talkcontribs)
I am not taking sides here. I am simply pointing out that the only thing that would certainly come out this would be a block for each one and that would be silly. I do not think you have to prove each other anything, people can make their own minds by themselves. E Asterion u talking to me? 21:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"there is no moral equivalency here".Ferick 22:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I note that Boris reverted your POV deletions of cited content. He was right to do that, but wrong to call you a vandal (as it's not strictly vandalism). Asterion and I have both asked him to stop baiting you. However, your actions certainly aren't acceptable conduct either, and it's something you've done far too often. You're going to have to make a choice soon - are you going to play by the rules or not? If not, then you will most likely find yourself being banned permanently (and not accidentally this time either). -- ChrisO 22:07, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


You are not a neutral mediator here. I have had a talk with another administrator about your conduct in Kosovo related pages (pushing your POV and then blocking pages, threatening users that do not agree with your POV and lying (and using those lies to make administrative decisions). We shall see what comes out of that. My conduct is indeed acceptable under wikipedia rules. Stop misleading people into thinking that you are a neutral observer when it comes to Kosovo pages when evidence shows the contrary.Ferick 22:26, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hearing some people here claiming to be neutral, and in fact in practice taking the Serbian side in the Kosovo-related articles, makes one laugh to death, Ferick. I would encourage you to disregard these lies, and continue contributing the way you did until now: busting the Serbian-propaganda-fed lies. I would also want to see how I can help in making this admin above stop pushing his view on Kosovo related articles, and clearly taking one side, and harrassing whoever doesn't like his views. Let me know if you contact anyone on this. Greetings, ilir_pz 00:21, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There are neutral admins here but ChrisO is not. He is a pro-serb and masterfully hides behind Wikipedia rules. Pretends to initiate discussions and in the end ignores them completely, claiming he has reached a consensus, when it clearly isn't a case. ChrisO needs to be taken off the Kosovo related articles altogether, and other admins should be more open to genuine suggestions, and sometimes have the decency of overruling him. --Coca Cola
Ferick, FYI - this is Tonycdp editing under a pseudonym. See User talk:ChrisO/Tonycdp. -- ChrisO 22:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfC[edit]

Following your latest bout of edit warring, I've posted a user-conduct RfC on you - see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ferick. -- ChrisO 01:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration request on Kosovo[edit]

Dear Editor, since you have been involved in editing the Kosovo article in the last months, and that article has been the subject of long ongoing edit wars, your name is listed in the Request for Arbitration on this matter. You can make a statement here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Kosovo. Due to the large number of editors involved, however, I would to ask you to keep your statement concise and to the point. If you feel you have not been substantially involved in the disputes surrounding the Kosovo article, please do not remove your name from the Arbitration request, but rather make a short statement there explaining why you feel you have not been involved enough to be part it. To understand my reasons for requesting Arbitration, please read my statement on the Requests for Arbitration page. Best regards, Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 10:15, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Mik te lumte se shume mire ke shkru veq te lutem hiqe fjalen genjeshtar se besoj qe e marin keq 'gjyqtaret' dardanv

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kosovo. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kosovo/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kosovo/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 16:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary injunction in the Kosovo arbitration[edit]

For the duration of this case, any of the named parties may be banned by an uninvolved administrator from Kosovo or related pages for disruptive edits.

You are receiving this message because you are one of those covered by this injunction.

For the arbitration committee. --Tony Sidaway 17:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.

For edit warring, personal attacks, and other disruption, PerfectStorm/C-c-c-c is banned from editing Wikipedia for one year. For edit warring and incivility, Bormalagurski is banned from editing Wikipedia from one year. For edit warring and disruptive use of sockpuppets, Dardanv under any username or IP, is banned from editing Wikipedia for one month.

Hipi Zhdripi is limited to his one named account, Hipi Zhdripi. All edits by Hipi Zhdripi under another account or an IP address shall be treated as edits by a banned user.

Ilir pz, Hipi Zhdripi, Vezaso are banned for one year from editing articles related to Kosovo. Relation to Kosovo is to be interpreted broadly so as to prevent gaming. Either may be banned from any related non-article page for disruptive editing. All articles related to Kosovo are put on Article probation to allow more swift dealing with disruption. Editors of Kosovo and related articles who engage in edit warring, incivility, original research, or other disruptive editing, may be banned for an appropriate period of time, in extreme cases indefinitely.

ChrisO is warned not to engage in edit warring, and to engage in only calm discussion and dispute resolution when in conflict. He is instructed not to use the administrative rollback tool in content disputes and encouraged to develop the ability and practice of assisting users who are having trouble understanding and applying Wikipedia policies in doing so. .

Dardanv, Ferick, Laughing Man, Osli73, and Tonycdp are placed on Probation for one year. Each may be banned from any page or set of pages for disruptive edits, such as edit warring or incivility.

Ilir pz, Hipi Zhdripi, Vezaso, Dardanv, Ferick, Laughing Man, Osli73, and Tonycdp are placed on standard revert parole for one year. Each is limited to one revert per article per week, excepting obvious vandalism. Further, each is required to discuss any content reversions on the article's talk page.

For the Arbitration Committee. Arbitration Committee Clerk, 03:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

picture[edit]

Hello Ferick. I'm trying to upload an updated picture to the Ramush Haradinaj article but I can't get the damn thing working. I saw you did the original and thought maybe you could give me a hand? Davu.leon 16:37, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

yes thanks, it sorted itself out somehow. Davu.leon 16:46, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Entities bordering Albania[edit]

Hi. I noticed that you made an attempt to work on the introduction to the Albania article just now. You probably won't be surprised to discover that various people have been warring back and forth over whether Albania's northeastern neighbour ought to be identified as "Kosovo", "the disputed territory of Kosovo", "Serbia (the disputed territory of Kosovo)", or "Serbia" — and they each apparently won't accept any wording that goes against their particular position, even here in an article where the only intention is to make a passing reference in order to establish a geographical context for Albania. You might want to check the "Borders" section of the Albania article's talk page to see what I mean. I tried offering "the disputed territory of Kosovo" — along with relevant wikilinks and some references to news stories on both sides — as what I thought would be a compromise equally distasteful (!) to everyone, but it didn't work, and I don't think there's much point in my wasting any more of my time on this particular battle. If you would like to try your hand at brokering a compromise, or perhaps try to get the arbitration gurus involved, I wish you every success. Richwales (talk) 05:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Yeah, I notice that, but we are only talking about physical location here. There is no room for interpretations.Ferick (talk)