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• Douglas A-4 Skyhawk#Israel
• Take a look at this edit and see if I got the Hebrew name correct. Thanks and best. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 07:36, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is correct. Flayer (talk) 08:47, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you very much! --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 10:00, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Major overhaul of article

• Please don't do anything to the article page of Python (missile) as I'm currently performing a major overhaul there. FYI, your last edit just cost me 3 hours of work lost and I'm not about to blow my top at you so please, just give me the time that I require to finish updating it and you are free to do whatever you desire after I take down the "GOCE" tag, okay? Thank you for your understanding~! --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 20:58, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

• Another thing before I complete the overhaul, I need to confirm with you that "Shafrir" is Hebrew (שפירית) for Dragonfly, am I correct? --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 22:18, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the lost effort. "Shafrir" in Hebrew (שפריר) refers to Callionymidae or Dragonet. (Compare to "Shapirit" = (שפירית) Dragonfly). Flayer (talk) 22:29, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

• Strange, according to http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%9F_%28%D7%98%D7%99%D7%9C%29, it means Dragonfly or Damselfly. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 22:51, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I used Reuven Alkalay's complete Hebrew dictionary. Dragonfly in Hebrew = Shapirit שפירית, Damselfly in Hebrew = Shafririt (שפרירית). Flayer (talk) 23:36, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

• Let's not forget that the Jewish population in Israel back then was from many different countries and background, some kind of confusions and misspellings was bound to happen somewhere. Well, I'm going with the Hebrew Wikipedia version of the Python missile article so I'm sticking to Shafrir as Dragonfly. Lastly, I've completed the overhaul and taken down the "GOCE" tag, best and out~! --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 23:52, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Hebrew version of the article says that "Shafrir" is an inflection of "Shafririt", which is also true. "Shafririt" means Damselfly, not Dragonfly. Flayer (talk) 00:01, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

• Confusing but I'm guessing that they didn't want to name something for a girlish sounding one, read as in Damsel in distress, maybe that's the reason why the male inflection was chosen could also be a preference for the Dragonfly over the Damselfly. From my experience, people in this business can be quite superstitious at times. Let's stick with Dragonfly and avoid the Damselfly part, shall we? FWIW, we need to stay true to their spirit when commenting or writing on such touchy issues. No? --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 00:28, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

It would be absolutely incorrect to say that Shafrir in Hebrew means Dragonfly. Dragonfly in Hebrew - Shapirit (male inflection would be Shafir or Shapir, not Shafrir) So "Shafrir" is either a male inflection of Shafririt (Damselfly), or a kind of fish - Dragonet. Flayer (talk) 09:18, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I've just seen your last edit - very well! The naming issue is explained correctly. Flayer (talk) 09:26, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you, I try to do the right thing. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 09:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Why did you remove the IISS refs? Flayer (talk) 19:13, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Moving AIF's emblems to wiki-commons

שלום, לפי חוקי ויקישיתוף אסור בהחלט להעלות סמלילים או סמלים המוגנים בזכויות יוצרים, אל ויקישיתוף. אנא המנע מלעשות כן בעתיד. סמלי צה"ל ובהם סמלי חיל האוויר שייכים למדינת ישראל ומוגנים בזכויות יוצרים. Yar (talk) 19:50, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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Blocked for edit warring

I have blocked you and the other involved user for the edit warring (which definitely exceeded the three-revert rule) on both EL/M-2075 & Northrop Grumman E-2 Hawkeye. You both have a history of edit warring. You both have been blocked before for edit warring. You both should know better. Once the blocks expire, I encourage both of you to visit a talk page, and attempt to reach some sort of consensus about the dispute. In this particular case, perhaps I can point you to WP:RSN? As always, you may appeal this block by adding {{unblock|your reason here}} to this page. Rjd0060 (talk) 12:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Grad hitting Dimona-Ramat Negev

It was published in - http://news.walla.co.il/?w=/13/2579793

http://dimona.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1149:2012-10-31-17-55-12&catid=22

could you see if anyone is WP:RS ? (don't know how to check this) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.26.147.243 (talk) 21:43, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I'd say Walla is WP:RS. Flayer (talk) 22:25, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Please explain to me...

Who is related here the Namer APC, when these are two different vehicles??... Visit army-guide and search these APC's, they appear separated in two articles, here no (another wikipedia in english epic fail)!! 190.26.166.192 (talk) 13:14, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

There is only one Namer APC in IDF today - an APC based on Merkava mk4 hull in serial production. The name 'Namera' today refers only to an ARV, with a winch and a crane. Read the article before you attempt to edit it. Flayer (talk) 13:20, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Deputy leaders of the thirty-third Israeli government

Could you help me with this? I don't know who are the current Head of the Government Deputies.--Michael Zeev (talk) 03:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Here you can see a complete list of ministers and deputies: http://www.knesset.gov.il/govt/heb/govtbynumber.asp. Flayer (talk) 06:42, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't say who are deputy leaders of Israel, but only deputy ministers. It's not the same. Thanks anyway.--Michael Zeev (talk) 08:50, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh, well, in this goverment there are no deputy leaders. Flayer (talk) 15:40, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

User warnings

I appreciate your reversions of Michealmch, but in the future please apply the appropriate user warning templates, too. Problem editors can't be blocked until they've been sufficiently warned. Not applying warnings gives them more time to troll. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:20, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh, Yes I understand. 04:47, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Why was Ron Yosef section

Why was Ron Yosef section I just added deleted? It is directly relevant to the heading and underscores the continued anti-LGBT bias of thee IDF. Are you attempting to censor true and documented information?

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Operation Protective Edge

Is that your photo of a burning factory in Sderot? Amazing image. Yoninah (talk) 21:09, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes it is, thanks! Flayer (talk) 21:16, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Photographer's Barnstar
	For an example of great war photography. Thanks! Irondome (talk) 23:42, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! :-) Flayer (talk) 06:26, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

you wrong over here

you did not explain why you undo my edit. מינוזיג (talk) 14:55, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I've placed there a url to a document that shows that Barak 1 is actually a joint venture between Rafael and IAI. Flayer (talk) 15:18, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I invite you to a discussion

Hi. A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Gaza beach explosion (2006) should be moved to Israeli bombing of the Gaza beach (2006). I would like to know your opinion about this issue.--Mevarus (talk) 01:48, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine

I apologize for taking an initiative formatting the article without preliminary discussion. The section is simply in unreadable condition and jumps from one subject to another. Some information is twisted and although solid references are provided, it is paraphrased in non-neutral view. Some information, particularly the Ukrainian volunteer battalions, is obsolete as many of them were converted into regular army units, due to a critical situation in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:01, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate your effort. Flayer (talk) 18:03, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

210th Regional Bashan Division

Hello Nathan Is there any info on what units belong to this new division on the Golan heights? And what command has now control of the 36th Armor Division? Here is an article I found about it... but it has no usable info as to which units make up the new division: [1]. Cheers, noclador (talk) 05:39, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Noclador, 36th Armor Division remains in Northern command (along with 91st "Galilee" Division, 319th "Ha-Mapatz" Armor Division, 143rd "Etgar" Armor division, and 210th "Bashan" Division). Apparently 210th Division now has the re-establishe 810th "Hermon" (Territorial) Brigade, which is also the base of the speical Alpinist Unit, 474th (Territorial) Brigade that was in 36th Armor Division, a new Field Intel. Battalion - 595th "Ayit", and maybe some more units. Cheers! Flayer (talk) 07:43, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

thank you for the info. I was a bit confused as the Hebrew wiki said that the 366th "Amud ha-Esh" Armor Division is now the 210th "Bashan" Division he:אוגדת_הבשן, which would mean that Southern Command doesn't have an active division anymore. I will add your info now to the Northern Command article. Cheers, noclador (talk) 21:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

What?

There must be something wrong with the maximum range. I can only think that either an extra zero on. 25,000 meters is well over 15 miles; well above that of some modern light artillery pieces. Please correct this and cite the resource used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.77.26 (talk) 14:41, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Flayer (talk) 17:17, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Under maximum firing range for the Spike ATGM is listed as "800-25,000m". I would stake my life that is not correct. That is over 15 miles. Look at the maximum range for comparable weapons systems such as the Dragon and the Javelin and you'll find a maximum range of 2,500 meters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.77.26 (talk) 17:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh, well, the Spike missile family consists of VERY different missiles. Spike NLOS is absolutely not comparable to ATGMs such as Dragon, Javelin, TOW, or Kornet. It is not man-portable, it is larger, heavier, with different launching system, different navigation system, and, yes, it has a range of 25km. Flayer (talk) 19:31, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

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Slashes within ELTA Systems products numbers have been removed years ago

Please refer to ELTA Systems website — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabameir (talk • contribs) 07:47, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, good to know. Flayer (talk) 07:51, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Israel Defense Forces ranks

Hi there; Why did you remove the template from that article? Please mention me when you answer because I'm mostly active on he-wiki. Amitayzl (talk) 15:17, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi User:Amitayzl, do you mean Turkish and Spanish ranks? Because there is nothing significant in comparing Israeli ranks with Turkish and Spanish ranks. Flayer (talk) 15:22, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

No. I ment to that edit. Amitayzl (talk) 16:16, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Ah, OK User:Amitayzl, I was just trying to make the head of the article look better with the new embedded video. Keeping both the template and the video makes the entire ranks table look squeezed, at least with some screen resolutions on PC's. This is because the template+video are longer than the lead+contentbox. So I assumed the template is no so important, because it has nothing but an image. Flayer (talk)

Help needed with Zeek Wikipedia article

Hi There,

I have been following your recent edits on Israeli Air Force. You seem like you truly know your way around Wiki. I would like to ask you help improve Zeek Wikipedia article. Any input from you would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to hearing from you. Ymd2004 (talk) 22:08, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ymd2004,

I'm sorry, but I'm only active in Wiki around military & security / modern warfare issues. Improving Zeek article would be too time-consuming for me. Flayer (talk) 06:23, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

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I was working on the page "Tavor X95" for many days, and finally was finished, but I clicked save changes and it brought me to the page where I have to change it because you had changed it since. That's ok, but I then tried to go to visual editing and it deleted all of my changes and I don't know how to get them back. Do you possibly know? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AA Quantum (talk • contribs) 18:41, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't know how to get them back. I would suggest you should try to prepare massive changes in a 'sandbox', i.e a subsection of you profile or user talk page. In this way you can make sure that you would lose anything if something suddenly interrupts your edit. Flayer (talk) 19:05, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

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In case you missed it

Why do you remove valid data from IAF article?
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Israeli_Air_Force&type=revision&diff=883406554&oldid=878118139 - Why? Flayer (talk) 09:28, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

@Flayer: I didn't remove that entry that was done by Avaya1, see his edit here - (please be careful on your assumption. Thank you 04:31, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

OK. Flayer (talk) 08:25, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

English sourcing

Whenever possible, please use English language sources on the English wikipedia. Also, the latest ref you added on Opinion polling for the 2019 Israeli legislative election consisted of just an external link. Hydromania (talk) 06:34, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Whenever possible I look for English sources as well, but I also trust other Wikipedians to replace Hebrew sources with English sources when they become available. Flayer (talk) 06:40, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Dolphin-class submarine

למה אתה משחזר עריכות נכונות בערך? לוויתן אינה קרויה על שם היצור האגדי לוויתן איתן (talk) 11:23, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Do you have any proof that the submarine name was NOT meant to resemble the mythical creature? Leviathan, Tannin, Drakon - can't you see the obvious? Flayer (talk) 11:28, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

לא. תנין ורהב אכן נקראו על שם המפלצות שתוארו בפסוק בישעיהו נ"א.

לויתן הייתה חלק מסדרה אחרת - דולפין, דקר (שטבעה) ולוויתן - כולן יצורים ימיים.

הצוללת השישית הייתה אמורה להיקרא"דקר" אבל ההצעה נתקלה בהתנגדות המשפחות ולכן לקחו שם אחר - דרקון, שמכיל את האותיות של דקר. איתן (talk) 16:30, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

And still another translation is usefull for Wikipedia. Flayer (talk) 16:35, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

אבל הקורא יחשוב שזה מקור השם ולא היא

יש לך כאן באתר חיל הים את הסיבה לשמות - בן גוריון רצה שמות תנכיים [[5]] אבל הסדרה השנייה של הצוללות נקראה על שם בעלי חיים. איתן (talk) 16:43, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

I only mention it as a translation alongside with the more common translation. I never claimed that it should be mentioned as the origin of name. BTW, you should stick to WP:SPEAKENGLISH. Flayer (talk) 16:47, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

.ברור. בדפי שיחה של ערכים אני משתמש באנגלית אם כי אני משתדל לא לערוך יותר מדי בויקי האנגלית.

..לגבי הצוללת דרקון, אכניס שורה לגבי השם המתכתב עם דג הדרקון אבל נבחר גם כי הוא מכיל את האותיות של דקר. תקן את האנגלית במידת הצורך.

איתן (talk) 16:56, 1 April 2019 (UTC) [הצוללת החדשה תיקרא "אח"י דרקון"] איתן (talk) 16:56, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Organizational chart of the IAF

Very much thanks for your work on the organizational chart of the IAF! I heavily banked upon it when I created or updated all IAF airbase articles on the German Wikipedia. I recently visited Hatzerim, Nevatim and of course Sdot Micha when I was in Israel, but they won't let me in. One question: is the 101st Squadron called First Combat or First Fighter? On the IAF Website it is called First Fighter. --Sdo216 22:10, 2019-07-02 (CEST) —Preceding undated comment added 20:15, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, thanks! Back in 2008 I was only helping User:Noclador with data and translations, and I admit ny translations could be somewhat lazy. I assume we should stick to IAF Website transaltions. Flayer (talk) 16:38, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

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Why did you revert my edit? --Znuddel (talk) 20:57, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Accidentally, my mistake. I reverted it back to your version immediately when I realized it. Flayer (talk) 21:04, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for clearing up. --Znuddel (talk) 21:39, 18 March 2021 (UTC)