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Seeking understanding about norms of adding sentences.

Dear GabrielF, With due respect, i wish to understand what changes were desired from me while addition of the information which I added on the wikipedia page of Rajdeep Sardesai and my ference being website of hindustantimes. I would be glad if you guide in my apprehension that if I change the grammatical structure of the sentences i am adding, then too they violate copyrights rules.I will definitely go through the rules after this experience and make sure its not repeated.I would have avoided doing the change, but I didnt expect that my change in structure was insufficient. Kindly enlighten me. Thanking You, ~~Mr.Aint Ordinary~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.Aint Ordinary (talkcontribs) 19:25, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. I highly recommend reading Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing, particularly the sections that give examples and and show you step by step what to do.
To address the sentences that I removed, here's the first sentence that you wrote

Less than a week after this deal, IBN News Network editor-in-chief and one of Indian television's most prominent faces, Rajdeep Sardesai, will go on long leave.

and here's what the Hindustan Times says:

Less than a week after Reliance Industries Limited took over Network 18 group, IBN News Network editor-in-chief and one of Indian television's most prominent faces, Rajdeep Sardesai, will go on long leave from Tuesday.

As you can see, the basic structure of the sentences are the same (they both start by saying "less than a week after...", continue to describe Sardesai, and then state that he will go on leave. Certain phrases are also identical: "one of Indian television's most prominent faces", "go on long leave". You've made some changes, but you haven't done enough to write this in your own words.
To rewrite this, I would recommend following the process outlined at Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing#How to write acceptable content. Ideally, you'll want to look at a few different articles and take some notes about the facts these articles present. Then think about how you would describe these events in your own words, if you were explaining it to another person. I wrote a quick example - I'm not suggesting this is the best way to do it, but it's one way that avoids close paraphrasing:

After the deal concluded, The Hindustan Times reported that Rajdeep Sardesai and Sagarika Ghose, two senior managers at CNN-IBN, would take an extended leave from the network. Sardesai is CNN-IBN's editor-in-chief and is one of the most widely-recognized journalists in India. Ghose, who is Sardesai's wife, is the network's deputy editor. The Hindustan Times expressed uncertainty as to whether the departure would be permanent.

I've rewritten the sentence structure here. Instead of describing Sardesai in the middle of the sentence, I moved that description to the next sentence. I also mentioned his wife at the same time I mentioned Sardesai. I also rewrote some of the key phrases in the original ("take an extended leave" instead of "go on long leave", "most widely-recognized journalist" instead of "most prominent faces"). This is just a quick example, I'm sure you can do better.
Please feel free to ask me if you have any further questions. Best, GabrielF (talk) 02:19, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for your directions. I am more hopeful that contributing to Wikipedia is actually a self-contribution.If you had been a neighbour, would have called you for a cup of coffee.Never mind, WikiLove does a bit of that effort. Mr.Aint Ordinary (talk) 17:49, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


Then how can I deny the lies that she has said about me? Is a blog enough to make? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ardeshir1100 (talkcontribs) 22:47, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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