User talk:Gazumba

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Greetings Gazumba. Thank you for your note.

I agree with your first point regarding the use of “The Bull” in the intro.

However, regarding the other issues, it is of no encyclopaedic relevance that the venue has showcased “younger bands and musicians”, however famous they may have become in later years, and certainly does not belong in the lede. If anything, it is a minor detail and is obviously not the main aim of the venue - any business will give priority to as many name acts as it can, and will only give the opportunity to non-name acts when it needs to fill up gaps in the billing.

Which brings me to the Cullum issue. The fact that it is referenced only means it can justifiably appear in the article, not its placing on the billing. The same reference mentions several other performers (and I expect they’ve all been included in the article). It should clearly not precede the venue’s history of legendary performers, many of whom are certainly more famous on an international level than Jamie Cullum, however much of a star he may be in the UK. Wikipedia's article's are aimed at an international readership, not specifically at UK readers.

As a promotional gimmick, from the point of view of Yamaha plugging its wares on a flyer, and for local consumption, it’s fine, but Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and must therefore be very clear in its NPOV. As I point out in the note I left on the talk page, it is better to leave out any specific name from the lede.

Regards,--Technopat (talk) 17:02, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied to your note on my talk page. Regards, --Technopat (talk) 20:17, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]