User talk:Goburst

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Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 04:09, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank youGoburst (talk) 04:51, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

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Goburst, you are invited to the Teahouse

Hi Goburst! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. Be our guest at the Teahouse! The Teahouse is a friendly space where new editors can ask questions about contributing to Wikipedia and get help from peers and experienced editors. I hope to see you there! Doctree (I'm a Teahouse host) Visit the Teahouse This message was delivered automatically by your robot friend, HostBot (talk) 16:07, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Hey very nice, thank-you I will take advantage of this. Talk soon!--Goburst (talk) 17:46, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

April 2014

Hello, I'm Ronz. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to University Canada West because it appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.

Goburst, it's clear you have a conflict of interest in University Canada West, are having great difficulty in understanding our policies/guidelines. Please take it much slower and learn your way around. --Ronz (talk) 15:17, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Ronz, it's clear you have a conflict of interest in University Canada West; review the University Canada West Talk page since 2009. I'm not in a conflict of interest and have provided context and content that has severally changed the landscape of this undue University Canada West Wikipedia page. I have referenced and sourced everything I contributed, in reviewing the last 4 days I believe my progression and willingness to learn is evidenced in the University Canada West "Talk" page. Do you feel spamming my Talk points with Wikipedia legislation creates an opinion of me on a Wikipedia back panel? Is this way to keep the University Canada West page undue? Ronz as a primary Editor of the university Canada west page aren't you concerned you've allowed an undue article to be unmaintained for over 4 years?. I ask for a top Wikipedia editor; a individual in the upper echelons of Wikipedia editing to review the University Canada West Talk page and historical articles and inform me I have broken the cardinal point of Wikipedia which is to write a neutral unbiased article which depicts the whole truth or nothing at all.

I'm going to ignore this, hoping that you'll agree it's the best way forward. --Ronz (talk) 18:17, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

consensus around University Canada West Wikipedia

I will set up a Wikipedia:Requests for comment for you guys. But can you outline the problem for me first - just explain the dispute for me first. -- Moxy (talk) 18:40, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for offering to help!

Goburst, I'm going to give my perspective. Feel free to ignore some or all of it. Let's just make our concerns clear so we can get others to help us.

The article topic is highly contentious, making it the target for biased editing and pov disputes.

While there's been very little (or no?) press about the university recently, it's clear that the university is trying to address many of their past problems.

Goburst is a new editor that is trying to substantially update and change the article, after the article has sat relatively unchanged since the last wave of controversies ending in late 2012. --Ronz (talk) 19:18, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Here is where I'm coming from:

Tuition for a full undergraduate degree program at UCAN is higher than similar programs at public universities due to the fact that it is not publicly subsidized. According to the Student Aid BC website, 30 per cent of UCW students defaulted on their government-backed loans in 2009. That compares with a default rate of 3.7% at the University of British Columbia and 4.7% at the University of Victoria.

• How is the above mentioned relevant to University Canada West. This is not a review site to compare other universities, and how is provincial default rates relevant? Is this a site about provincial default rates? Yet, this is continually re-inserted without any effort to review or comment on my referenced material or content.

Grammatical, punctuation, spelling and overall article transition suggestions are ignored and restored to their original form. Also, referenced material is ignored without discussion. Lastly, certain affiliations of University Canada West like the BC transfer guide. a division of The BC Council on Admissions and Transfer (BCCAT) who is responsible for the facilitation of admission, articulation and transfer arrangements among the colleges, institutes, and universities in BC is deemed irrelevant to the article , so is the CICIC a unit of the Council of Ministers of Education, Canada (CMEC), an intergovernmental body who collects and shares information related to the recognition and portability of academic and occupational qualifications.[36]However, the AUCC a non-governmental, not-for-profit membership organization[34] is relevant?

Anyway, it's been a back and forth versus a Consensus decision-making.

PS- how do I change my screen name I want to use my real identity?

--Goburst (talk) 20:10, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Concerning screen name, I strongly advise not to. See WP:REALNAME. You can request a change through WP:RENAME. --Ronz (talk) 22:12, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Minor vs contentious edits

I think you're getting a feel for what are considered minor edits (spelling, grammar, punctuation, etc.) from edits that could be contentious (changes in emphasis, introduction of unsourced or poorly-sourced information, removal of sourced information, etc). Keep trying and don't take it personally if others don't agree.

I've been trying to go through your edits and make sure all the minor changes haven't been removed. My apologies if I've missed some. --Ronz (talk) 18:57, 4 April 2014 (UTC)