User talk:Gotch87

Nomination for deletion of Template:SC Rapperswil-Jona Lakers roster

Template:SC Rapperswil-Jona Lakers roster has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Lonza Arena moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Lonza Arena. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 15:26, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

@Significa liberdadeHi, Thank you for your message. I will try to improve these articles. for your information, I based myself on an existing article: St. Jakob Arena. You can see with the Lonza Arena, I try to do my best, but for the other it will be more hard to find many information like this one Gotch87 (talk) 02:58, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately, a lot of pages on Wikipedia do not align with the current best practices. This is especially true for articles created in the early days of Wikipedia, such as St, Jakob Arena, which was created in 2006. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 13:48, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Forum d'Octodure moved to draftspace

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Patinoire de Graben moved to draftspace

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Zielbau Arena moved to draftspace

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Patinoire des Mélèzes moved to draftspace

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Güttingersreuti moved to draftspace

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Centro Sportivo di Bellinzona moved to draftspace

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Lonza Arena (March 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Anuwrites was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Lonza Arena and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

ANU^writes 05:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

@AnuwritesSorry, but can you explain to me what a reference is for you? I put 24 < ref >, it's articles written by professional journalists. What more is needed? I doesn't invent nothing, all the thing I put are fact. Gotch87 (talk) 11:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

The article of this draft was recently moved to draft space for improvement, also declining the article gives a room for an editor to see where they went wrong. The article is heavily cited by references from Le Nouvelliste but upon researching I saw alot more. ANU^writes 13:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

@AnuwritesOk, so I will have to take not only Nouvelliste, but also Waliser Botte, is that what you are asking me?

I find it a bit harsh that the article was rejected for just this reason.

The first draft was minimalist, I admit. I based myself on an existing article, which was validated elsewhere. But here, I cite reliable sources and I believe I have covered the subject well. Adding the sources of Walliser Botte will only duplicate this by not providing additional information. Is it really necessary to drown in references? there are 24 references for 763 words, which represents one reference every 30 words, personally I find this relatively qualitative.

If we compare with the articles on Swiss ice rinks which were accepted, I find it difficult to say that this article does not deserve not to be validated with 24 references. I invite you to count how many references in total you will find in all the arenas appearing in the Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Switzerland.

I agree that this article can still be improved, that's for sure, but at this stage, does it still deserve to stay in the draft when we compare it with the others? Gotch87 (talk) 13:42, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Before accepting any article to wikipedia, we tend to do a research and give feeback based on whatever we've learnt about the topic. I remember giving comments on what I believed the article fell short. With references from 'frech-language' newspaper, I thought the article could much better than that. ANU^writes 14:00, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

@AnuwritesOkay, currently I don't see how to do better, because I don't see what I could add to it, but I'm going to go ask for a hand on the Teahouse. Because, without being told what to improve, I don't see what to do.

My links are in French because it is a regional newspaper and this hockey arena is a regional and not international class arena. I would never have found the details of the project in English anywhere, perhaps the inauguration. Thank you for your time. Gotch87 (talk) 14:07, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Happy editing ANU^writes 14:59, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Gotch87! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! ANUwrites 05:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)