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Ways to improve Kainga

Hello, Grutness,

Thank you for creating Kainga.

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Boleyn (talk) 07:42, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Dear @Boleyn: I did not create that article, I created a redirect on that page to an article which I had created at kāinga. Someone else later turned it into a stub. Also, with due respect, after nearly 15 years in Wikipedia and some quarter of a million edits, I have some idea how to create an article ;) Grutness...wha? 07:57, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

I will expand the article a little and add some sources. Grutness...wha? 08:02, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Smoke Comment

Hi Grutness,
I hear we in Oz have become the 'Land of the Big Smoke', and have been 'sharing' it with you guys. Sorry about that! ☹️
I am actually sitting outside using the free city wi-fi, wearing a dust mask at this moment, and it is very smoky.--220 of ^Borg 04:19, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Yeah - we had a brown morning sky the other day, and Auckland's copped it today. Just gives some indication of how bad it must be across the ditch. Hope things improve over there soon! Grutness...wha? 05:48, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Well it stayed very smoky till later that night, but then cleared up greatly in the early AM(?) and is far better today (Monday 6/1).
I am about 110 km due west of a number of the coastal fires, so if an easterly wind comes in the smoke just flows in!
But 25 people (so far) have died, so the smoke isn't too much to 'endure', though apparently one elderly persons' death in Canberra is attributed to the smoke. [1] 220 of ^Borg 05:58, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for 1929 New Zealand cyclone

On 12 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 1929 New Zealand cyclone, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that one person died during the 1929 New Zealand cyclone when a railway locomotive fell from washed-out track into the Taieri River? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1929 New Zealand cyclone. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 1929 New Zealand cyclone), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Thanks! :) Grutness...wha? 06:48, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Etymology

Hey friend, I reverted you on Berisha, because there was is bibliography that connects that name to a Slavic etymology. From the work I've done on Ottoman defters, I've never seen a change from /r/ to /l/ mid-sentence in Albanian. Nor is there some tradition that says that "Berisha i Bardh" is "real Berisha", or to any connection with "fair-skinned people". The Slavic Bel- in Albanian hasn't entered as "white", but as a term for a very specific breed of white sheep. So a "belja" for example refers to that breed. The Slavic term for white never entered in Albanian as a loanword that replaced that Albanian term bardh. For example, the Montenegrin tribe Bjelopavlići (descendants of White Paul) in Albanian is knows as Palabardhi. Lastly, the -ić suffix in Slavic, becomes -iqi in Albanian. -Isha is cognate to Latin -issius, which how Berisha incidentally is recorded in Latin. Best.--Maleschreiber (talk) 10:02, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

These are the reasons that make me think that what you wrote is very improbable, but I'm open to discussion if there is bilbiography.--Maleschreiber (talk) 10:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Agree with Maleschreiber. But actually all of the reasoning is kind of pointless because, admin or not, what you added was OR. --Calthinus (talk) 19:12, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Understood - though it's not OR. My problem is that I have read it in a book several years ago, but the title and authors name elude me. Grutness...wha? 03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Tip of the hat to you

Grutness, thanks for the heads up and your work. Brunswicknic (talk) 07:27, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

No probs - and thanks! Grutness...wha? 11:45, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

List of shipwrecks in September 1863

The entry for 14 September contains an unreferenced entry for Spirit. Is this a vessel listed by Gaines? Mjroots (talk) 17:08, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I've no idea -: I was simply adding the Ingram and Wheatley information (which is all New Zealand-related) - I don't have a copy of Gaines. Grutness...wha? 04:29, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I'll have to trawl through the article history and find out who added the Gaines info. Mjroots (talk) 05:57, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Photographic pages, links, genres, structure

I expect I was wronging you, please disregard. There's something weird or broken in the linking and finding articles department. Midgley (talk) 17:15, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Yup - it was nothing to do with me. No prob, though :) Grutness...wha? 04:56, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

I think the problem was that the link added to the draft article used uppercase for the second word. Links are case sensitive apart from the first character.-gadfium 05:45, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Thank you! Grutness...wha? 00:26, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Diacritics

Hey G! How are things Down Under? I was just closing a bunch of stub proposals, some of which raised the question of diacritics in stub templates, and the only discussion of this I could find was in an OLD archive: here. The consensus seems to have been to form templates without diacritics with redirects from the "diacritical" versions. Can you confirm? (I'm gonna put a sentence on the naming conventions page in regard thereto.) Cheers, Her Pegship (?) 23:29, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Peg - not bad down here (spending less time online - looking after an elderly parent takes a lot of my time) - hope things are good with you. Yeah, as far as I remember that's pretty much it, or the other way round - doesn't really matter which. As long as the unaccented version and the "correct" version both link to the template, then everything's happy. Grutness...wha? 02:20, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Tool for finding city-basketball player intersection?

Hi Grutness, I noticed that you created a number of city-basketball player categories recently. Thank you for this. Do you have a tool that allows you to find the intersection quickly? I've been manually sorting Category:Sportspeople from Los Angeles and other sportspeople from X categories and it is very tedious.--User:Namiba 16:43, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Namiba, yes there's a tool called Petscan which I use - it saves a lot of time. It also guarantees that I've got enough articles for a category before I start. Here's a link to it [2]. Grutness...wha? 02:28, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I tried to use it but I couldn't figure out how to find results. Is there a how-to guide on using it? Can you give me a brief overview? Thanks for your help.--User:Namiba 16:33, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

sure - it's pretty straightforward. First make sure that languages is set to "en" and project is "Wikipedia" (that should happen automatically). Then just put two categories (without the "category:") into the category's field (e.g., "Basketball players" and "Sportspeople from Seattle"). Set depth to about three (so that it scans subcategories up to three levels down), and press "Do it". You should get a list of article names and links underneath. (in the Seattle example it yielded 70 articles). Grutness...wha? 03:20, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Category:Basketball players from Zadar

Please stop creating these categories, at least for now. They are not helpful. I would revert you, but I am working to set up an RfC with Namiba on this. Thanks. SportingFlyer T·C 15:41, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Actually they're extremely helpful and I'm only continuing a scheme which others have already started, and with category types which recently passed CFD as keep. I'll pause for now, but since consensus is to keep them going, and since there's very useful on Wikipedia both for navigation and to cut down very large categories, I don't see any reason why you should want to stop them being created. Grutness...wha? 15:46, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll make sure to ping you into the further discussions. SportingFlyer T·C 15:52, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

@SportingFlyer:, can you please ping me too for the upcoming RFC? Thanks. - Darwinek (talk) 02:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Sure. I'm not sure it's in the cards at the moment (and am taking a break for the holidays) but I'll ping if I set it up. SportingFlyer T·C 11:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Thankyou for your vote on countries and establishment year

I have spent a huge amount of energy trying to improve this category tree and make it accurately reflect the situation on the ground when things were set up and also correctly reflect where things were set up. The fact some are trying to delete this huge tree makes me feel like there is an attempt to destroy much of my work helping Wikipedia. It is also odd to me that this proposal to delete can be done without posting notice on most of the thousands of categories invoolved.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:01, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

No prob. Grutness...wha? 02:42, 18 December 2020 (UTC)