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Regarding the term "guitarra inglesa"[edit]

Hi! I didn’t have the chance to check the sources you quote. But my sources say otherwise. For instance, Henrique, Luís (2004) cites Caldeira Cabral, Pedro (2000) himself, when he says “a guitarra portuguesa resulta da fusão do cistre e da guitarra inglesa”. Or, if you understand Portuguese, check out this .pdf document. When exactly the english cittern started to be called “guitarra inglesa” I don’t know. So, since we have differing information, what do you suggest?
Nevertheless, pay attention to the names for the plucked chordophones in the Portuguese language because things can get very confusing. You are mistaken when you say that the guitar was called “viola” at that time. The instrument we are talking about is called “guitarra portuguesa” although it is not a guitar. Only in Portugal, and mostly fado players, shorten it to just “guitarra”. The instrument known in English as “guitar”, as you know, was introduced in Portugal after the English cittern, and when it was introduced it was called “guitarra francesa”. The name “viola” was applied to other instruments (10 stringed instruments, smaller than the guitar), that had been around in Portugal since the Renaissance. Due to the physical ressemblance with the violas, the name “violão” was quickly applied to the guitar. This usage still remains in Brazil. However in Portugal the name “viola” came to be applied later to the guitar, and the more traditional and rural violas are now commonly called “violas de dez cordas” (or other names). Today, only people that are musicians, musicologists or know the history of the guitar call the guitar by its correct name: guitarra.
Regards!
Ten Islands (talk) 23:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]