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Problem

We have a problem with KF Trepça. The thing is that Albanian club claims to be the successor of old FK Trepča, but the fact is that most Kosovar Albanian clubs made their parallel clubs, and those are the ones now competing in Kosovar Superleague. FC Prishtina also has that problem, the Prishtina of nowadays has nothing to do with the FK Priština that competed in Yugoslav league, FK Priština was disbanded in 1999, and the FC Prishtina was formed in the 1990s "illegaly". FkpCascais (talk) 20:08, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

You had two parallel teams, ones playing the Kosovo league in the 1990s and the other ones playing officially in the Yugoslav league system. It is not my fault you made parallel clubs. FkpCascais (talk) 21:18, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Of course you were welcome. I have the lists of players that played in Yugoslav First and Second League and in Pristina, Trepca, Liria, there was many Albanians. FkpCascais (talk) 22:09, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

There was a problem in both ways. Yes, Serbs did favoured Serbs, but I also know from an Kosovo Albanian friend of mine how he told me radical Albanians threatened and considered "traitors" the Kosovo Albanians who played for the clubs. FkpCascais (talk) 22:12, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

But that is why I didn't made any splits in other articles, but the specific problem with FK Trepča/KF Trepça is that numerous Albanian players left the club and formed their own KF Trepça, while official Trepca continued playing in the Yugoslav league system. So during the 1990s there was 2 clubs named Trepca. The "Serbian" Trepča had Albanian players, don't think that it didn't. Albanian players were not kicked out of the club. What happened is that Kosovo Albanians considered them traidors because they kept playing for official Trepca insetad of the "rebeld" one created paralelly. Now, the problem is that most "official" clubs ceased to exist in 1999 and the "rebel" Kosovo Albanian ones just took their place (stadium, history, logo, etc.) while in Trepca specific case, the official Trepča moved to Northern Mitrovica and continues to exist even today. So, the, OK lets say "Serbian" Trepca, is continuation of original Trepca, while Kosovo Albanian Trepça is the one that was founded in the 1990s by the Kosovo Albanians that revolted, left Trepca, and created a separate Trepca one. FkpCascais (talk) 01:00, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

The article is full of secondary sources, while your version only has primary sources, which are less valiable than secondary. See WP:Verifiability and WP:Sources. FkpCascais (talk) 10:18, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Stop edit-warring. I will report you and ask to block your account and make a range IP block. The text is sourced, and there are also Bosnian sources being used, neutral ones. Your text is only sourced by an old website of KF Trepça which only means KF Trepça claims the history of old Trepča.

No, it is not hypocrisy. That is what happened. FK Trepča still exists. KF Trepça was formed in 1999 by Kosovo Albanians who are still holding the club and stadium today. FkpCascais (talk) 12:28, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

You are mixing things. I don't care who "morally deserves" or not. I have secondary sources. You have none. You should write at KF Trepca how Kosovo Albanians left the club and played in their parallel league until 1999 when they took the stadium of FK Trepča and so on. Regarding independence, FK Trepča, later merged into FK Partizan Kosovska Mitrovica, played and plays in a Serbian football league system which is recognized by FIFA and UEFA. KF Trepca plays in Kosovar Superleague which is not recognized by anyone, so that is not an argument, rather an argument for FK Trepča side. FkpCascais (talk) 17:37, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

And this is not bullshit. And despite being Serbian, I am not some blind nationalist. If you go and see edit history of many Kosovo football articles you can see I often expanded and contributed, reverted vandalism, etc. But we have to explain what happened to the public. Yes, you can say there was repression against Albanians, Albanians boycotted, etc. that should be in the article. But you know that during 1990s Albanians left most of the "official" clubs and formed parallel ones. Now you claim those parallel clubs are the "real ones", but it is not that simple. Specially not with Trepca, because even after 1999 Trepča continued to exist and play in Serbian leagues till its fusion with Partizan Kosovska Mitrovica a few years ago. There is continuity in old FK Trepča, the Trepča of 1990s and the Trepča that moved to Northern Mitrovica and continued playing in Serbian league. While the KF Trepça was formed in the 1990s by Albanians in protest and boycott against Serbia. Do we agree that there were parallel clubs existing during 1990s? FkpCascais (talk) 17:48, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I just saw what you added there about "reality". Well, the "reality" is that Kosovo Albanians left the club in protest, boycott, so if they left, they cannot claim now to be their own something they refused to be part of back then. Describe that reality in the article, stop pretending nothing happened. FkpCascais (talk) 18:02, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Albanians created different club, not Serbs.

Please read WP:BRD. You were bold, then you were reverted, you are now edit-warring. We should ask for assistance in our discussion from someone neutral, but you have to stop edit-warring. FkpCascais (talk) 11:10, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

It is simple: in 1999 FK Trepča moved to Northern Mitrovica (club president, direction board, coach and players) and they continued playing in Serbian league and still play. The club KF Trepca which entered the stadium and took the name of KF Trepca has nothing to do with the pre-1999 club, it is a new different club. How cant you understand this? FkpCascais (talk) 11:28, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

We need someone neutral to assist us and solve this. The thing is that there are 2 clubs existing since the 1990s. The one that played in Yugoslav league continued playing in Yugoslav later Serbian leagues all time. So there is continuity there. I don't know when the Albanian Trepca was formed (in that article says 1999. FkpCascais (talk) 13:03, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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FK Trepča

Don't do this edit again. The name of the club is FK Trepča and always was. I provided numerous sources from RSSSF in which you can see how the club played as FK Trepča troughout many seasons after 1999, and this source actually shows the current name and status of the club.

I don't know why someone changed to FK Trepča to FK Partizan but I don't care, I corrected it now after seing sources from the current and previous seasons. So please don't vandalise that article in order to make a point I know you want to make at KF Trepca. FkpCascais (talk) 18:11, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

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Average attendance

Hello I am the Ewiki user and writing about Greek Wikipedia. Congratulations for article 2014–15 Kosovo Basketball Superleague, and i write about this [[1]] in the same period. Can you tell me where can i find information about average attendance? who referred that the average attendance is 1300? (Ewiki (talk) 17:53, 11 September 2015 (UTC))

Thank you Ewiki for the promotion that you are giving to our basketball in Greece. I noticed that you were writing for the same article in Greek and i really liked it tbh. Regarding average attendance, I heard it in an local TV who mentioned that average attendance for the previous season was c1300. Thank you. (Hashanialbert (talk)

Thank you for the information Hashanialbert. I have mentioned some statistics about attendance but the article is incomplete. Information is from here [2]. I wish good success for your team Sigal Prishtina in europe playing for the first time officially? and specifically in FIBA Europe Cup. (Ewiki (talk) 18:29, 11 September 2015 (UTC))

Written in Greek because i am from Greece. (Ewiki (talk) 19:32, 11 September 2015 (UTC))

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