User talk:Huritisho

@BatteryIncluded:@Primefac:@Geogene:@JorisvS:@John:@Huntster:@Isambard Kingdom:@Praemonitus:@Drbogdan: So this day has finally come. I am not going to defend myself saying that you guys are all wrong, but I gotta admit I've never quite understood why you all seem so obsessed over this socking issue. I know it can be quite annoying to find out that an apparent new user is actually a sock, but my contributions were all constructive. I've made great improvements to several articles, many bold green byte change edits that I won't even bother to mention. I was banned in my first account for getting into a discussion with a few users, and later I made the mistake of creating my first sock. I do regret making those two mistakes (which grant and indefinite block), but I do not feel much guilty because I tend to always think about the readers of Wikipedia. Do the readers care about the content of the encyclopedia or do they care about who put the content there? I believe I've made good contributions, and I don't regret making them. I honestly am tired of having to hide. Later I'll just post an honest unblock request so perhaps I'll be able to get clean and just continue editing my articles as usual. For now, all I ask of you is to not go around reverting everything I've done (unless of course an edit I made was not an improvement). And as always, cheers, Huritisho 17:29, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To sum it all up, don't think that I have bad intentions or that I have no respect for this community. Huritisho 17:31, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Example[edit]

For example, John has recently reverted two of my edits (one of them:[1]). All I ask is: Is it really necessary, since I had improved and expanded the article? That's what I honestly wonder. Basically, I just wanted one user to reply and clarify. Huritisho 17:36, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My honest unblock request[edit]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Huritisho (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Pretty much all that could be said is in my message above. This unblock request is more specifically targeted at @John:. John, you know my story. You said I had good potential. I do regret being blocked for the first time for getting into arguments with other users, and I do regret having created my first sock, but I have never disrupted wikipedia or anything. All I want is another chance to start off clean and just keep improving the articles I like to edit, as I have always done. You can look at my contributions and you can see they are all good or well-intentioned. Again, what's more imoprtant: The content the readers will read or who created that content? Cheers, Huritisho 17:49, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

No. And your talk page access here has been removed, as it has been on your main account. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 14:39, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

@Cirt: for example, Cirt knows I've improved an nominated an article for good article status. Cirt was even reviewing my article, and I said I was going to review his. I'm really bummed out. Huritisho 17:52, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I'd no idea the sock investigation was going on. But I'd asked Huritisho not to review an article I'd nominated, immediately after me reviewing one he'd nominated, and instead asked him to review a different article nominated by someone else, within the same topic queue. — Cirt (talk) 17:53, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cirt: Sure, I forgot that. Yes, you asked me to review another article that has been a nominee for longer. That doesn't matter much, however. You seemed glad that I was going to help review physics articles Huritisho 18:04, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, of course I was glad to have other editors help out with clearing the WP:BACKLOGS at GA Reviews. I was, however, unaware at the time that there was an ongoing sock investigation at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tetra quark, of the GA Nominator. — Cirt (talk) 18:06, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cirt: Do you intend to keep reviewing the article I improved and nominated? Huritisho 18:08, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'll probably leave some recommendations for any future editors that wish to further improve the page. — Cirt (talk) 18:09, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tetra quark, I will not unblock. I do not think you have been honest in your claim that only one sock was created by you; apart from all the IP socking, I see five named socks. I do think you have disrupted Wikipedia, and I do not think your current unblock request comes close to addressing the degree of disruption you have caused. I was actually thinking of requesting a WP:BAN for you due to your recidivism. But in the spirit of the unblock process I will let another admin handle this. --John (talk) 18:11, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@John: Wait, no. I claimed that I regret having created my first sock. I didn't mean to say I had created only one. Also, may I honestly ask you how exactly I am disrupting Wikipedia? I believe that what really matters are the articles and how they are improved. The readers don't care or even know about internal issues. I'm not saying socking is ok, but I am not sure exactly how I have been disruptive. I could link you to some articles I have significantly improved using this account, but I'm afraid you'll revert all my hard work. Not all my edits were perfect but it is ok to make a mistake here and there. Huritisho 20:05, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@John: I'm still waiting for a reply. Honestly, I'm tired of being treated like trash. All I wanna do is keep improving articles like I've always done Huritisho 07:46, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note to reviewing admin: Please check Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Tetra quark before considering an unblock. --John (talk) 18:11, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I see you had 5 accounts in the past and all were disrupting to Wikipedia and other editors. I don't see why/how you will change this time. There is something to be said about your WP:COMPETENCY. -BatteryIncluded (talk) 18:17, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@BatteryIncluded: I asked this question to John already, but I'll ask again: How exactly is that disruptive? I've interatted with you quite a few times, and you know all the improvements I made in the Juno spacecraft article, for example. I'm not saying all my edits were good, but they aren't problematic Huritisho 20:10, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I don't think this unblock request should be granted, but you should know that editors with a much more problematic history than yours have had their sanctions lifted before. It can happen, but only when a long time has passed without more sockpuppet accounts appearing. See WP:OFFER. Geogene (talk) 19:15, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Huritisho: I am very sorry to see you blocked. However, there seems to be good cause. I know you never tried to involve me in this matter, but I was. And a few persons here (so called editors) thought it would be cute to preface any comment about me as being a "User under investigation". I would agree with you that your editing (as far as I saw) was constructive and well intentioned. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.Rudy235 (talk) 20:17, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The unblock request[edit]

@John:@BatteryIncluded: All I want is to keep editing articles. Am I asking too much? I have never been banned for disrupting Wikipedia. Huritisho 08:08, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah right. Everything said, you treated me like garbage and refused to give apologies or recant your rudeness and insults. Editing articles is one thing, treating other users with disdain in another. You've been told quite a few times times that acting like a vigilante is also disrupting Wikipedia. Yet, again. you just don't "get it." All this has happened not because of your editing, but it is because of your poor attitude and being unable to give a bit back. Pity. Arianewiki1 (talk) 12:31, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I do not think the block should be removed. In my opinion, TetraQuark needs to learn to work constructively with others, to stop insulting people, to retract previous insults, to stop sockpuppeting, and to be honest and honorable. I also think, now, he should take some time off from Wikipedia. A year or so of reflection might be worthwhile. Isambard Kingdom (talk) 13:10, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

-BatteryIncluded (talk) 13:25, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

VisualEditor News #5—2015[edit]

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Did you know?

You can use the visual editor on smartphones and tablets.

Click the pencil icon to open the editor for a page. Inside that, use the gear menu in the upper right corner to "Switch to visual editing".

The editing button will remember which editing environment you used last time, and give you the same one next time. The desktop site will be switching to a system similar to this one in the coming months.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs, added new features, and made some small design changes. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages like Japanese and Arabic, making it easier to edit on mobile devices, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.

Recent improvements[edit]

Educational features: The first time you use the visual editor, it now draws your attention to the Link and ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽ tools. When you click on the tools, it explains why you should use them. (T108620) Alongside this, the welcome message for new users has been simplified to make editing more welcoming. (T112354) More in-software educational features are planned.

Links: It is now easier to understand when you are adding text to a link and when you are typing plain text next to it. (T74108, T91285) The editor now fully supports ISBN, PMID or RFC numbers. (T109498, T110347, T63558) These "magic links" use a custom link editing tool.

Uploads: Registered editors can now upload images and other media to Commons while editing. Click the new tab in the "Insert Images and media" tool. You will be guided through the process without having to leave your edit. At the end, the image will be inserted. This tool is limited to one file at a time, owned by the user, and licensed under Commons's standard license. For more complex situations, the tool links to more advanced upload tools. You can also drag the image into the editor. This will be available in the wikitext editor later.

Mobile: Previously, the visual editor was available on the mobile Wikipedia site only on tablets. Now, editors can use the visual editor on any size of device. (T85630) Edit conflicts were previously broken on the mobile website. Edit conflicts can now be resolved in both wikitext and visual editors. (T111894) Sometimes templates and similar items could not be deleted on the mobile website. Selecting them caused the on-screen keyboard to hide with some browsers. Now there is a new "Delete" button, so that these things can be removed if the keyboard hides. (T62110) You can also edit table cells in mobile now.

Rich editing tools: You can now add and edit sheet music in the visual editor. (T112925) There are separate tabs for advanced options, such as MIDI and Ogg audio files. (T114227 and T113354) When editing formulæ and other blocks, errors are shown as you edit. It is also possible to edit some types of graphs; adding new ones, and support for new types, will be coming.

On the English Wikipedia, the visual editor is now automatically available to anyone who creates an account. The preference switch was moved to the normal location, under Special:Preferences.

Future changes[edit]

You will soon be able to switch from the wikitext to the visual editor after you start editing. (T49779) Previously, you could only switch from the visual editor to the wikitext editor. Bi-directional switching will make possible a single edit tab. (T102398) This project will combine the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab, similar to the system already used on the mobile website. The "Edit" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time.

Let's work together[edit]

Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback. This feedback page uses Flow for discussions.
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Local admins can set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki. If you need help, then please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.
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VisualEditor News #6—2015[edit]

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Did you know?

A new, simpler system for editing will offer a single Edit button. Once the page has opened, you can switch back and forth between visual and wikitext editing.

If you prefer having separate edit buttons, then you can set that option in your preferences, either in a pop-up dialog the next time you open the visual editor, or by going to Special:Preferences and choosing the setting that you want:

The current plan is for the default setting to have the Edit button open the editing environment you used most recently.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs and expanded the mathematics formula tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages such as Japanese and Arabic, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.

Recent improvements[edit]

You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing.

The LaTeX mathematics formula editor has been significantly expanded. (T118616) You can see the formula as you change the LaTeX code. You can click buttons to insert the correct LaTeX code for many symbols.

Future changes[edit]

The single edit tab project will combine the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab, like the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "Edit" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as a cookie for logged-out users and as an account preference for logged-in editors. Logged-in editors will be able to set a default editor in the Editing tab of Special:Preferences in the drop-down menu about "Editing mode:".

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the following Wikipedias in early 2016: Amharic, Buginese, Min Dong, Cree, Manx, Hakka, Armenian, Georgian, Pontic, Serbo-Croatian, Tigrinya, Mingrelian, Zhuang, and Min Nan. (T116523) Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. The developers would like to know how well it works. Please tell them what kind of computer, web browser, and keyboard you are using.

In 2016, the feedback pages for the visual editor on many Wikipedias will be redirected to mediawiki.org. (T92661)

Testing opportunities[edit]

Please try the new system for the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You can edit while logged out to see how it works for logged-out editors, or you can create a separate account to be able to set your account's preferences. Please share your thoughts about the single edit tab system at the feedback topic on mediawiki.org or sign up for formal user research (type "single edit tab" in the question about other areas you're interested in). The new system has not been finalized, and your feedback can affect the outcome. The team particularly wants your thoughts about the options in Special:Preferences. The current choices in Special:Preferences are:
- Remember my last editor,
- Always give me the visual editor if possible,
- Always give me the source editor, and
- Show me both editor tabs. (This is the current state for people using the visual editor. None of these options will be visible if you have disabled the visual editor in your preferences at that wiki.)
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Sock Puppet Investigation[edit]

I am informing you that I have initiated a sock puppet investigation concerning you: [2]. Isambard Kingdom (talk) 15:14, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]