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The Signpost: 3 July 2023[edit]

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Tech News: 2023-27[edit]

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Recent changes

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 July. It will be on all wikis from 6 July (calendar).

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This Month in Education: June 2023[edit]

This Month in Education

Volume 12 • Issue 5 • June 2023

In This Issue

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Tech News: 2023-28[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Section-level Image Suggestions feature has been deployed on seven Wikipedias (Portuguese, Russian, Indonesian, Catalan, Hungarian, Finnish and Norwegian Bokmål). The feature recommends images for articles on contributors' watchlists that are a good match for individual sections of those articles.
  • Global abuse filters have been enabled on all Wikimedia projects, except English and Japanese Wikipedias (who opted out). This change was made following a global request for comments. [3]
  • Special:BlockedExternalDomains is a new tool for administrators to help fight spam. It provides a clearer interface for blocking plain domains (and their subdomains), is more easily searchable, and is faster for the software to process for each edit on the wiki. It does not support regex (for complex cases), nor URL path-matching, nor the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist, but otherwise it replaces most of the functionalities of the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. There is a Python script to help migrate all simple domains into this tool, and more feature details, within the tool's documentation. It is available at all wikis except for Meta-wiki, Commons, and Wikidata. [4]
  • The WikiEditor extension was updated. It includes some of the most frequently used features of wikitext editing. In the past, many of its messages could only be translated by administrators, but now all regular translators on translatewiki can translate them. Please check the state of WikiEditor localization into your language, and if the "Completion" for your language shows anything less than 100%, please complete the translation. See a more detailed explanation.

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 July. It will be on all wikis from 13 July (calendar).
  • The default protocol of Special:LinkSearch and API counterparts has changed from http to both http and https. [5]
  • Special:LinkSearch and its API counterparts will now search for all of the URL provided in the query. It used to be only the first 60 characters. This feature was requested fifteen years ago. [6]

Future changes

  • There is an experiment with a ChatGPT plugin. This is to show users where the information is coming from when they read information from Wikipedia. It has been tested by Wikimedia Foundation staff and other Wikimedians. Soon all ChatGPT plugin users can use the Wikipedia plugin. This is the same plugin which was mentioned in Tech News 2023/20. [7]
  • There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed Third-party resources policy. The proposal will impact the use of third-party resources in gadgets and userscripts. Based on the ideas received so far, policy includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, some best practices and exemption requirements such as code transparency and inspectability. Your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on on the policy talk page.

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July 19 WikiWednesday + New York Botanical Garden Edit-a-thon (July 29)[edit]

July 19: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce
WikiWednesday is back in Manhattan!

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

We are proud to announce that monthly free food has returned!

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person you should be vaccinated and also be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate. Prime Produce encourages the wearing of masks when indoors, and especially be mindful of those in your proximity.

7:00 pm - 8:00 pm
(Prime Produce, Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan)
Also online via Zoom
July 29: NYBG Environment of the Bronx Edit-a-thon!
Flyer for the NYBG event

You are also invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our 9th Editathon with the New York Botanical Gardens! Attendees familiar with editing Wikipedia can edit off of a worklist focused on the environment of New York City; as well as, a sub-list focused on the environment of the Bronx. Additionally, LuEsther T. Mertz Library will pull topical media from their collection to assist the editing. You can also learn more and RSVP on the NYBG website here.

Bring your own laptop if you can, the Library can only provide laptops on a first-come, first-served basis. Entrance to the Library is free; when you arrive, alert Security that you are here for the event. Please enter through the Mosholu Entrance at 2950 Southern Boulevard.

12:00pm - 3:00pm
(Mertz Library at the New York Botanical Garden, Bronx)

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The Signpost: 17 July 2023[edit]

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Tech News: 2023-29[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 July. It will be on all wikis from 20 July (calendar).
  • MediaWiki system messages will now look for available local fallbacks, instead of always using the default fallback defined by software. This means wikis no longer need to override each language on the fallback chain separately. For example, English Wikipedia doesn't have to create en-ca and en-gb subpages with a transclusion of the base pages anymore. This makes it easier to maintain local overrides. [8]
  • The action=growthsetmentorstatus API will be deprecated with the new MediaWiki version. Bots or scripts calling that API should use the action=growthmanagementorlist API now. [9]

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Question from Hopeghostlurker2435158128 (20:40, 21 July 2023)[edit]

I'm not really a new Wikipedian and frankly, my experience since creating this account made me regret coming back. However, a friend who was interested in my article drafts kept track and notified me about an update on Draft: Rodaun and honestly it breaks my brain to such a degree that I thought I'd at least reach out to you for some clarification. How does En:Wikipedia come to the conclusion that Rodaun is not a notable topic when there is an article on it the de.wiki[10] which is where most of the "unreliable" sources come from? I apologize for the crankiness and thank you in advance. --Hopeghostlurker2435158128 (talk) 20:40, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hopeghostlurker2435158128 Not only do different language Wikipedias have different standards of notability, but articles often fall through the cracks due to the sheer number of them. That's why one language Wikipedia might have an article that the English Wikipedia lacks, or vice versa. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 20:47, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your quick response. Please feel free to delete Draft: Rodaun and Draft:Karl Albert von Bombelles to free up space before the sixth month mark as I will not be contributing to them further. Wikipedia is just not a place I find welcoming or unbiased and I guess that will never change. Again, thank you for your response. Hopeghostlurker2435158128 (talk) 21:38, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Hopeghostlurker2435158128 Draft:Rodaun has been edited by other people; Draft:Karl Albert von Bombelles has been extensively edited by other people. Because of that, they don't qualify for a self-requested deletion. Deleting the drafts wouldn't save any server space, anyways. "Deletion" just hides edits from public view; they don't actually delete anything from the server. We're able to restore drafts because of this, if it's justified within policy.
Besides, you threatened to leave over a month ago (on June 1st), but returned. WP:REFUND is a thing (again, "deletion" doesn't actually delete anything), but if we wait six months, you won't have to do anything if you decide to return. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 23:26, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Brucemanhood (13:20, 25 July 2023)[edit]

Hi there mentor! I'm surprised that there isn't a page for a UK music band who caused a minor furore in 2019. I've created a test one in my sandbox area (or, at least that's where I think I created it, fingers crossed) and I would love it if you could check it over and advise on anything to change before I try to create it as an actual public page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brucemanhood

Thanks Bruce --Brucemanhood (talk) 13:20, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Brucemanhood Actually, that's your userpage, but it's okay that you put it there.
So, you'll have to realize Wikipedia is a tertiary source that relies on secondary sources that have gone through editorial oversight. I've looked at the sources in your draft: This one doesn't fully load, this one might be a press release (no credit to a specific journalist, ends with "They're still scheduled to perform," etc.) so might not have gone through editorial oversight, this one obviously hasn't gone through editorial oversight, this one and this one are dead links. This one is okay, though.
I suspect the band may not be noted enough for an article, particurly since they've been noted only for one event; given the fact that the band has largely received negative reception, they may not actually want an article, anyways. I've given you a welcome template, which contains links to tasks you can do instead. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 17:03, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much for replying to me with good advice. I had those links saved from another time, so I'm sorry that I've also now found one dead link and one behind a paywall (the first article to break the story) - the others work fine for me. The band kind of wear this incident as a badge of honour to be honest, so I think they wouldn't mind having an article written about it. The thing that confuses me with wikipedia sometimes is that I've seen lots of pages for very minor bands or musicians which just detail a couple of releases or some such - so I kind of expected that an article about a band who have releases plus a whole bunch of press references (though I note the lack of editorial control on one, it was just a key piece of evidence) would be suitable material for a wiki page. Would you say it would work better if it had less details, removing many of the evidential links? Brucemanhood (talk) 08:17, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Brucemanhood You're using poor quality articles to the justify the existence of your own. If you find an article on Wikipedia that's poorly sourced, it's better to try to find better sources. If you can't, nominate it for deletion yourself (procedural deletions for old articles, articles for deletion for new articles and contested procedural deletions) instead of using such an article to justify the one you're creating.
Besides, not everyone wants an article. Sometimes, people even change their minds. I had someones PR agent contact me about someone who changed careers from "entertainer" to "therapist;" she wanted to have her article deleted because she didn't want her clients looking up her former life. It was too late by then. She qualified for a Wikipedia article; that had already been established ("Notability is not temporary".) Even if the article had been deleted, there are websites that copy and paste from Wikipedia, and we can't force them to delete articles because of how Wikipedia is copyrighted. Her clients will always be able to look her up. Even if the band members think of the entire incident as a badge of honor now, they might not later. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 14:52, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary[edit]

Precious
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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