User talk:Inforights

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles, as you did to Turners Hill. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" is strongly discouraged. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.--Charles (talk) 10:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I therefore presume that you will be asking, Sainsbury's, Tesco, etc to remove their information from Wikipedia. Information is information, and this is not advertising perhaps we should remove the other "businesses" such as the Red Lion, The Crown and Turners' as these are being run by commercial operators, or perhaps you do not support our local environment and you are therefore being biased.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Inforights (talk • contribs)

I would suggest that before you start laying into other editors you read some of the policies which govern what may or may not be included in Wikipedia. The additions you made do not satisfy the criteria of notability, which is why they have been removed, whereas Sainsburys and Tescos, as multinational companies, do satisfy the criteria. I would also suggest you have a look at this policy on spam and this policy on no personal attacks, as well as this policy on assuming good faith. Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 13:30, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, only BIG multinational companies are allowed to have their voice, how interesting. Please kindly explain what is 'notable' about the Red Lion, The Crown and Turners'. If this can be explained the the revision of other businesses will cease. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Inforights (talk • contribs)

I think you misunderstand. It's not a question of "having a voice". This is an encyclopaedia. Certain companies will merit inclusion on the grounds of notability, certain others will not. Consensus has determined what those standards of notability are. The articles on Sainsburys and Tescos are not there to promote one over the other, or either over any other company, they merely serve as an encylopaedic entry about that company. I'm not arguing that the Red Lion, The Crown and Turners are necessarily notable - if you don't think they are then you are free to remove them. That they are included is not a grounds to add in the antique shop you keep reinserting - "other crap exists" is not (as discussed here) a suitable argument for inclusion of information. Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 13:42, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and while you're reading up on the guidelines and policies, I suggest you add Wikipedia:3RR to your reading list. You're in danger of breaching it. Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 13:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I consider inclusion of pub names acceptable because traditional pubs and their names are an important feature of English villages. I would not name large superstores personally either. As you see Wikipedia is run by consensus among editors and continued flouting of the agreed guidelines will only get you banned from editing. Using your IP address anonymously will not help you either.--Charles (talk) 18:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So according to Charles pubs can stay, because they are an important feature of English Villages, so presumably all other features in English Villages are not important. Additionally, Giles believes that Pubs can be removed from editorial. In an age where the English Village is losing its character, it is important to note significant features, which are presently disappearing. It is interesting to note that the long standing and historical and quite noteable Village Antique Shops are sadly disappearing from Sussex Villages and generally around the Country, as people are changing individual lifstyles, this is not in anyway advertising, however noting a part of English Heritage that is forever changing, it is a shame that such editors are not interested in remembering our important past. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Inforights"

Additionally, as presumably this is a discussion as to advertising, and that promotion of such is not allowed I strongly belive that such lines "Meeting rooms at The Ark are available for public hire" should be removed as this is clearly advertising and for profit. Sotheby's is also mentioned, can this be removed, as it has no relevance to the Sotheby's own entry, and the word 'antique' is also included in this line.

Please get down from your soapbox and read this guideline. Wikipedia is an impartial encyclopaedia, not English Heritage. Please also do not misinterpret, accidentally or deliberately, my comments. Any part of Wikipedia can be removed, or inserted, at the will of any editor. If other editors agree with you, the removal or insertion will stand. If not, it won't. It's a concept call consensus. I would heartily suggest that you understand what Wikipedia is and (most importantly) what it is not. If you continue editing in the same manner without having read and understood the relevant policies and guidelines a block will almost inevitably result. That's in nobody's interests, and the last thing that anyone wants. If you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 20:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and on the question of the "meeting rooms are available for hire", be bold. If you don't like something, change it. If it breaches consensus you'll find out soon enough. Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 20:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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