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Apology and IP trouble

Hey Inter. I just want to apologise for the way I acted. I feel awful, and I accept responsibility. I just struggle that’s all. All that you and others did was reasonable and all y’all did was try to inform me of my mistakes, but I acted bad. I would have been more light about the situation, honest, but all the drama circulating was just insane. But I’m sorry for what I did, I really am not a bad person at all, I’m a good guy once people get to know me. I wouldn’t try to intentionally destroy pages whatsoever. But also, really rude and disrespectful IPs are template spamming my page and some have said some horrible things in their edit summary on my talkpage and one even removed an entire message which they are not allowed to do. Just thought I’d give you the heads up. But once again, I’m really sorry. WikiFlame50 (talk) 17:46, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

@WikiFlame50: I ask you again not to make personal attacks against myself, as well as Toddst1 for that matter. We haven't acted with any malice, spite or ill intent, and it feels like these constant rounds of slander are an attempt to deflect the blame from your own behaviour. I'm tired of this. Stop speaking on me. – DarkGlow • 18:12, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Look, I was just being honest and I did an apology. It’s not happening anymore starting now. WikiFlame50 (talk) 19:22, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

@WikiFlame50 I'd suggest you listen to the other editors, learn from them and also observe their attitudes. I hope I don't see you at WP:ANI any time soon. Good luck. Oz\InterAct 23:05, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

WikiFlame50

I was going to report WikiFlame50's edit to ARV/ANI but I decided to notify you instead since you're aware of the context behind his initial blocking and the reasoning for such. I told them earlier (on Talk:Phil Mitchell) that additions like that should be sourced, but they ignored it and added it to another article. And as well as being unsourced, the addition was also incorrect since Taylforth is not the longest serving actress. He just does not seem to understand that additions on here needs a source. – DarkGlow • 09:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

I’m sorry alright? I only just realised that. Another god damn IP was going after me again thinking that Phil was the longest serving character when that wasn’t the case at all. I also only just realised it was Tracy the barmaid surprisingly who does actually have a source. I just forgot, I didn’t mean it! Wikiflame50 • 10:07, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

@WikiFlame50: You haven't just realised though… You said that after being unblocked, you would only ever add info if they had a reliably sourced cite. Since then, you've broke WP:3RR in an edit war on Toyah Battersby and added incorrect unsourced information to Kathy Beale… – DarkGlow • 09:11, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Dude I know, and I feel like an idiot for forgetting that. Those damn IPs where messing with my head again and I’ve already talked to JBW to get them removed. I didn’t know they where back at all. But seriously I’m right about Phil not being the longest serving character, why aren’t you investigating those IPs instead? They are the ones doing much worse than me. Everytime I edit, they coincidentally appear!Wikiflame50 • 10:12, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

@DarkGlow Thanks for contacting me directly. @Wikiflame50 Again, I understand that you have a condition which makes this harder than normal, but you also need to take this into account yourself. At a place like this it does you no good to complain about some external factor (IPs?) when at the end of the day you are causing disruption with your edits regardless.
Would you DarkGlow say the behaviour shows any kind of improvement over the past week or two? Oz\InterAct 09:19, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
I would say it's stayed the same, if not worse. To my knowledge, WF has never been in an edit war and chose to get into one a day after his block expired. I took this to the edit war noticeboard and had the page protected, but nothing was done beyond that despite him breaking 3RR and being hostile to said IP editors. Now there's been more hostility to this IP on Phil Mitchell and the unsourced addition to Kathy Beale. I know IPs can be annoying but they will always be on Wikipedia and they are not an excuse for disruptive behaviour and rule breaks imo. – DarkGlow • 09:25, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Dude I’m telling you I really didn’t mean to make that dumb mistake. At all. I was editing a page as normal on Phil Mitchell and coincidentally, another of those IPs who JBW blocked stalked my edits. And they didn’t add any info to back anything up. I rightfully reverted them because I knew Phil wasn’t the longest serving character and I knew I was right. I did research too and I looked at the characters list, Phil wasn’t at the top of the list but Kathy was. So I assumed she was the number one and I realised I didn’t back it up and I felt like a total moron, it was a dumb mistake. I looked again and found out it was the barmaid surprisingly. I really am not trying to do anything bad deliberately and I’m really sorry for doing what I did. And I have contacted JBW about the IP, But how can I stop making these mistakes? Because I’m really trying to redeem, honest. It’s the IPs that keep showing up whenever I make an edit. They are the reasons why I can’t stop, I’m really not trying to do anything bad. I’m not blaming them, It IS THEM who did this to me. Wikiflame50 • 10:25, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Why does nobody care about what they where trying to do to me? Blanchey and JBW where the only users that actually understood me and yet nobody else does! I keep getting blamed when nobody seems to have checked the IPs edit summaries! You can clearly see how they where trying to start a fire with me!Wikiflame50 • 10:29, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Trust me when I say this. When ALL OF THEM are blocked, and I mean ALL of them, I guarantee nothing else bad will happen. Mark my words and I mean it. And for the record, if my page was protected, they 100% must have saw the IPs edit summaries if it was a protection. I only got into a war because of THE IPS, Again I’m not blaming, I’m telling you the truth. Wikiflame50 • 10:31, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

So a whole list of IP addresses have to be blocked just for you to behave accordingly? – DarkGlow • 09:33, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

PRECISELY. That’s exactly what would happen. If they didn’t target me, none of this would have happened. They angered me on purpose and when I get angry, I make dumb decisions and thats a life fact about me. It’s Only the IPs who where blocked from my talkpage that are the bad ones. If they stopped, I would have a much cleaner state of mind when it comes to editing. Because seriously, whoever nowadays I edit it’s such a coincidence that they show up. I check their profiles and everything.Wikiflame50 • 10:36, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

That's not how Wikipedia works though. It shouldn't have to take a whole bunch of other people to be blocked in order for you to not break rules. Sometimes everyone else isn't the issue. – DarkGlow • 09:40, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Like I said, I told JBW and he should hopefully deal with them and I hope it will be the end of them. Because normally after IPs get blocked, they don’t really come back from what I’ve seen. Wikiflame50 • 10:39, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Yes I understand what you are saying, but I am being serious. I’ve never had any of these things happen when people like that where not around. But ever since they came, it’s been all different. I think there is just one more IP that’s still roaming. If that one gets dealt with, It should be over. And I KNOW it will be.Wikiflame50 • 10:43, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

All right @Wikiflame50. I'll take you up on your word one last time here. Do you understand that breaking the policies on Wikpiedia, like you have done several times already, regardless of external factors or others behaviour or whatever it may be will cause you to be blocked for good in the end? If you consistently break policies here, this is what will happen no matter the excuses you come up with. Do you understand that? You also seem to be unable to read what @DarkGlow is writing and even linking to, such as edit warring. He's doing this to enlighten you on how to work with other editors here. It does not matter that someone else triggers you and everybody else is at fault for your behaviour. Your behaviour is your responsibility when reacting to anybody else here, hell, in life in general. It seems you are trying to help and is acting in good faith, but it makes it very hard for other editors to work with you when you cannot grasp the playing field we're working on here.
@DarkGlow I hope this is acceptable. If nothing changes and the disruptions and edit warring just keep coming, we will sadly have no other option but to enforce a hard block. Oz\InterAct 16:08, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, Inter. If I was in your position, I wouldn't be so lenient given that it was agreed he would never be disruptive again following his block, but I respect your decision. I'll update you if anything else comes to light. – DarkGlow • 17:09, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
@DarkGlow Thank you. I always lean towards mediating as much as possible. But my vast patience does have an end, which is swift. Oz\InterAct 09:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Also I couldn’t help but notice, how come your timezone is much different to mine? Wikiflame50 • 10:48, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

You see now? I’ve not done anything bad whatsoever. I Told you things would be different as I said. And here’s why, the full true story. It turns out those damn horrible IPs who wouldn’t stop harassing me and setting up all kinds of traps where all from User:ZestyLemonz the psychotic sock puppet, (Seriously, the dude was absolutely nuts) He was the one tormenting me deliberately the entire time, he did that to make me leave Wikipedia because he really hates my guts, I got many of his sock accounts taken down and he even sent me a death threat who he said “was a quote from Sharon from EE”, even so its still a death threat. That was his entire plan. He confessed his identity on Blancheys page and was acting very crazy calling himself a “celebrity” and admitted to being unhinged. To find that, you can check that page out, JBW etc where involved too. That was why the drama started. And now that he’s finally gone (for now), the IPs who where harassing me will never touch me no more. And the next time they try something funny, They wont be dealing with a weakling and they won’t make me break any rules. You won’t be hearing from me for quite sometime. You are looking at a refreshed user here and I promise you I will NEVER, NEVER N E V E R forget about sourcing, reliability you name it. I’m fully aware of the rules and I will obey. (It’s me Wikiflame50, I got a username change) LordBossMaster100 • 21:44, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear it. Good luck in your editing. Oz\InterAct 10:52, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Blocking me

You blocked me few weeks ago, because of Afghanistan ethno-lingustic map, so the whole mess was about some one inserted an wrong map made by Cia because of political strategies for afghanistan ethno-lingustic map. Fore example according to that map, the major inhabitants of balkh province are uzbeks!!!!?? But according my map wich is based on Al-Jazeera report that according to wikipedia reliable sources page, is an independent and reliable source and even according to wikipedia/balkh province page tajjks are the majority, i think And independent news statistics are more reliable than an inteligence agency, not mentioning according to wikipedia itself all my ethnic distribution was right, the Issue is why did you blocked me?????? 5644Khorasani (talk) 14:04, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

We have an unblock procedure for this. Also, you need to seek consensus and if that does not work, seek a content dispute. Oz\InterAct 08:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Continued disruption

5644Khorasani (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Hi Inter. Sorry for bothering you, but 5644Khorasani is still attempting to insert his pov into Ethnic groups in Afghanistan [1] [2]. I've lost count on how many times he has been told to use the talk page of the article. You might also wanna see his rather bizarre rant against another user [3]. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:34, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

@HistoryofIran Thanks for notifying me. I think our patience has run out, so I have blocked the user indef. Oz\InterAct 07:12, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

The user historyofiran

He frequently edits articles because of his interests he changes the map by because of his own interests, Wikipedia is not a place for likes of him. Pazyryk5644 (talk) 13:53, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

This is clearly a sock of 5644Khorasani [4]. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:16, 21 May 2022 (UTC)