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Question from Python Drink (22:47, 30 August 2022)

Hi. This one's a lil personal and you don't have to answer. But...

  • What made you join Wikipedia?
  • Do you sometimes get frustrated and tempted to leave the platform? --Python Drink (talk) 22:47, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
@Python Drink thanks for the question. I initially joined Wikipedia because I wanted to write about topics I was interested in, such as London related articles (which I am still doing for the most part today). And yes, I do sometimes get frustrated and consider leaving. Whenever this happens, I always just take a break from Wikipedia and come back in a few days. This is all just a hobby anyway, you shouldn't take it too seriously :) – Berrely • T∕C 08:40, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2022).

Guideline and policy news

  • A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
  • An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • An arbitration case regarding Conduct in deletion-related editing has been closed. The Arbitration Committee passed a remedy as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
  • The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous

  • The new pages patrol (NPP) team has prepared an appeal to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) for assistance with addressing Page Curation bugs and requested features. You are encouraged to read the open letter before it is sent, and if you support it, consider signing it. It is not a discussion, just a signature will suffice.
  • Voting for candidates for the Wikimedia Board of Trustees is open until 6 September.
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Pending changes?

Good evening, man.

I got a question. How can edits made to an article be pending? Under what conditions does this happen? And how do I identify a pending edit?

Asking because I've seen user bear this right called "Pending Changes Reviewers". Python Drink (talk) 18:28, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Python Drink, pending changes protection is a special (and slightly controversial) class that requires all edits by new or unregistered users are reviewed by pending changes reviewers, such as the one you saw (I am also one). You shouldn't be affected by this as you're extended confirmed, though this level of protection is rarely used and semi-protection is generally preferred.
Currently pending edits can be seen at Special:PendingChanges and they'll have text saying [pending review] next to the diffs.
You can request PCR if needed at WP:PERM/PCR. Hope this helps :) – Berrely • T∕C 19:07, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, @Berrely:. I'll check out WP: PENDINGCHANGES. Would I be correct if I say that users who made edits that are pending are given the impression that their edits are already visble to everyone? Python Drink (talk) 19:19, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
@Python Drink before submitting on an article with PC protection, you are given this notice:

Note: Edits to this page from new or unregistered users are subject to review prior to publication (help). (show details)

Though there definetely have been cases where people have missed this and been confused when their changes fail to display. – Berrely • T∕C 19:25, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from CCGwikieditor (11:28, 6 September 2022)

Hi, I'm looking to add an infobox to the draft page I've made: Chichester College Group.

This is so I can include the Chichester College Group logo, map, co-ordinates and other related information.

What's the best way to do this please? --CCGwikieditor (talk) 11:28, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Mky185 (06:03, 10 September 2022)

Good evening. I'm mohamed form Egypt. for many years i have interested with themes which related to politics, economics and especially In Egyptian affairs. I would like to edit some quotations articles about 2013 coup according to credible international organizations . I will be thankful to learn how i could add my contributions --Mky185 (talk) 06:03, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Mky185, have you tried pressing the "edit" button and making your changes? Remember you must cite reliable sources in your changes. – Berrely • T∕C 15:57, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Proofread

Hi, I hope you are doing well.

The issue Wikipedia:TheWikiWizard/Drafts/September_2022 is ready to proofread.


Thank you, and all the best,


つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 03:15, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

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Feedback request: Wikipedia proposals request for comment

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Question from Hwfiv (09:12, 4 September 2022)

Hello, I'm a screenwriter who writes historical dramas. My intensive research into my subjects has made me aware of some errors on various Wikipedia pages that I wanted to fix. Also, I am the namesake and ancestor of some historically signficant business leaders in US history and their Wikipedia pages are sadly lacking. I wanted to update them. --Hwfiv (talk) 09:13, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Hwfiv: cool, go ahead and edit them. Do it! Python Drink (talk) 22:52, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Title formatting

You know those article titles (e.g. movie titles) that are italicized? How do you do that? -- Python Drink (talk) 22:54, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I personally use {{Italic title}} for my drafts, @Python Drink Sennecaster (Chat) 03:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Thanks @Sennecaster:. I'm a talk page stalker as well except I only read rather than respond haha. -- Python Drink (talk) 17:18, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Feedback request: Wikipedia policies and guidelines request for comment

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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:10, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #22

Welcome to the twenty-second newsletter from the Growth team!

Newcomers tasks reach the 500,000 edits milestone — more data publicly available

As of the last week of June 2022, the newcomers of the world have completed over 500,000 newcomer tasks. In other words, newcomers have made over half a million Wikipedia edits via Growth’s “Suggested Edits” module.

  • About 30% of those edits were completed on mobile devices.
  • Usage continues to increase; in June 2022 almost 50,000 newcomer tasks were completed.

We have added some new data to Grafana. You can now check the number of edits and reverts by task types, or the number of questions asked to mentors. You can filter the data by wiki.

If you have any questions, or there is more data you want access to, please let us know.

Ongoing projects and explorations

The new impact module is part of the Positive Reinforcement project. The image displays the mockup for mobile we used for user testing.

We are continuing our work on our new project, Positive Reinforcement. User testing of initial Positive Reinforcement designs was just completed. Interviews were conducted in Arabic, English, and Spanish. The outcome has been published on the Positive Reinforcement page. We are now utilizing user testing feedback along with prior community feedback to iterate and improve designs.

We are exploring the idea of a Copy Edit structured task. We have tested copy edits in Wikipedia articles for arwiki, bnwiki, cswiki, eswiki (Growth pilot-wikis) and enwiki with two different methods: LanguageTool and Hunspell. We will share more details here and on the associated Copy Edit page once the evaluation is complete.

Add an image was utilized at GLAM events in Argentina, Mexico, and Chile. For an overview of what was learned from these events, read: #1Pic1Article I: how Latin American heritage experts added images to Wikipedia (in English).

Experiments analysis

Add a Link Experiment Analysis has been published. The most important points are:

  • Newcomers who get the Add a Link structured task are more likely to be activated (i.e. make a constructive first article edit).
  • They are also more likely to be retained (i.e. come back and make another constructive article edit on a different day).
  • The feature also increases edit volume (i.e. the number of constructive edits made across the first couple weeks), while at the same time improving edit quality (i.e. the likelihood that the newcomer's edits aren't reverted).

Newcomer task edit type analysis has been published.

  • Communities had expressed concern that newcomers whose initial edits were structured tasks wouldn’t go on to learn how to complete more difficult tasks. The Growth team data scientist conducted a Newcomer task edit type analysis to see if this was indeed the case.
  • Results from analysis indicate that this likely isn’t a significant concern. More than 70% of users who start with the easy task "Add a link" also make another task type. Read the full analysis and methodology here.

News for mentors

A new system for the mentors list

The configuration of the mentors list will change over the next weeks. In the future, mentors will sign up, edit their mentor description and quit using Special:MentorDashboard. This new system will make the development of new features for mentors much easier.

At the moment, the mentor list is a simple page anyone can edit, unless it’s protected. With the new page, mentors will be able to edit only their own description, while administrators will be able to edit the entire mentors' list if needed.

The deployment will happen first at the pilot wikis, then at all wikis. Existing lists of mentors will be automatically converted, no action will be needed from the mentors. [1][2]

Mentors will be informed about the next steps soon, by a message posted on the talk page of existing Mentor lists.

Learn more about this new structured page on mediawiki.org.

A tip for mentors

Did you know that mentors can filter their mentees' changes at Special:MentorDashboard (and star the ones that require attention)? This feature helps to keep an eye on newcomers' edits, helping mentors to fix minor details, and encourage them if necessary.

And did you know that mentors have special filters to highlight their mentees' edits at Special:RecentChanges? Look for the following filters in RecentChanges: Your starred mentees, Your unstarred mentees.

Other improvements

Some improvements will be made to the mentor dashboard in the coming weeks:

  • While we now offer some options for mentors to take a break, the option to quit mentoring was not easy to find. This will be improved. [3]
  • Mentors at wikis using FlaggedRevisions will have a way to discover their mentees' pending edits. [4]
  • Dashboard discovery for new mentors will be improved. [5]

Recent changes and fixed bugs

  • We moved to a new Image Suggestions API. This new API will allow us to deploy Add an Image to more wikis. [6]
  • Starting September 19, a few more wikis now offer Add an image to newcomers. These wikis are Greek Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Romanian Wikipedia. [7]
  • Add an image has been disabled for a few days due to technical issue. "Add an image" added a blank line instead of an image. This has been fixed. [8]
  • In order to know if Special:EditGrowthConfig is used by communities, we now instrument page loads and saves of configuration. [9]

Have a question? A suggestion?

Please let us know! You can also read our FAQ page.

Growth team's newsletter prepared by the Growth team and posted by bot • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.

17:18, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

How to start an AfD?

Please, how do I nominate an article for deletion? — Python Drink (talk) 19:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

@Berrely: and please, is there a way to jump to a specific revision of a page at certain date rather than digging through page history? I'm trying to access February 7, 2020 revisions of Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Are_policies_being_used_to_the_detriment_of_Wikipedia?. I found the link at User talk:Jesswade88#Wikipedia's hierarchy (if that helps) — Python Drink (talk) 17:22, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Hi @Python Drink, the guidelines and information on nominating an article for deletion is available at Wikipedia:Deletion process, in most cases you will need to go through AfD. As for your latter query, have you tried using the "browse history interactively" drop down on diffs? It should help with getting to a specific date. – Berrely • T∕C 19:24, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
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