User talk:Ivasyk

Welcome[edit]

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Again, welcome! Alex Bakharev 00:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Slavni Kozaky[edit]

"Liquuidated" by who, by Russia and the cunning tzaritza Catherina, who duped them. Yeah, right, Kozache where do you get your information, they were ensalved by Russia to build St.Petersburg, and most of them died in horrible, inhumane conditions, the others ran away to russia. I would question the credebility of your source.

Dear oh dear, please don't be another svidomy troll, but nonetheless if you insist, we have original chronicles dating to the 15th century preserved in our libraries... As for St. Petersburg then it was built earlier under Peter the Great. You really do not know anything about history do you? Alas you are not the first one in wikipedia with such an approach.--Kuban Cossack 01:50, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Historical Articles[edit]

Please withhold adding your opinions on articles of history, many people have different Points of View, but there is a WP:NPOV, and adding sections like (not to be confused with Russia) is but an opinion, some disagree, some agree, the neutral way is to bypass this altogether. Same goes for Cossacks, for example the passage that you wrote about my ancestors moving to my native Kuban is something I do not agree with and is most un-encyclopedic, and in this case is also wrong particulary wrt to the term exiled. It was a free choice to move for those who wished to continue the Cossack lifestyle...many did, I am a descendent of such, and have no regrets that I am born on this beautiful land. --Kuban Cossack 00:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sir, but its a historical fact you cannot deny this, Kuban cossacks are descendors of the Ukrainian cossacks that ran away from tzarina Catherine.

Wrong, Zoporozhia was liquidated, but initially all of the cossacks were integrated into the Russian social class, with high level starshina's being given Dvoryanstvo. Well what am I saying, see Zaporozhian Host and the final passage. And no, when the Azov Black Sea Cossack Host was formed, it was fully loyal to the Russian throne, as they were later called Vernye Zaporozhtsi, to separate those who ran off to the Danube they did run off, only to return in 1828 after a pardon by Nicholas I, and to move to the Kuban. In 1864 the Kuban Cossack Host was formed, and never in our history was the loyalty questioned. Why do you think that Kuban Cossacks made up the Imperial personal guard? Or why do you think that in 1936 we were the first to accept Budyonny's invitation to re-form the Cossack cavalry. Or how my grandfather galloped all the way from Stalingrad to Vienna and before walking on the Red Square (third row fourth from the left 5) And even now why do we choose to write ourselves as Russians than Ukrainians? Why did we fight in Abkhazia in Chechnya, Trans-Dniester? Why do we make up nearely half of the Kremlin Presidential Regiment? Running away...This summer, in Kat'kodar we re-opened a ten metre statue to Matushka for giving us this beautiful land.--Kuban Cossack 01:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Liquuidated" by who, by Russia and the cunning tzaritza Catherina, who duped them. Yeah, right, Kozache where do you get your information, they were ensalved by Russia to build St.Petersburg, and most of them died in horrible, inhumane conditions, the others ran away to russia. I would question the credebility of your source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivasyk (talk • contribs)

Dear oh dear, please don't be another svidomy troll, but nonetheless if you insist, we have original chronicles dating to the 15th century preserved in our libraries... As for St. Petersburg then it was built earlier under Peter the Great. You really do not know anything about history do you? Alas you are not the first one in wikipedia with such an approach.--Kuban Cossack 01:50, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other picks[edit]

Look, please stop the manner of edits that you are following now, is unacceptable. Nobody gives anyone rights to privatise history. Please have a look through the policies and guidelines that the welcome message was given. --Kuban Cossack 02:15, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Slava Kozakam[edit]

Dear Mr. Kuban, i am afraid that your sources are not credible, and the manner of edits that you are following now, is unacceptable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivasyk (talk • contribs)

naming conventions[edit]

Please familiarize yourself with WP:NC, particularly with WP:NC(UE). Thanks, --Irpen 02:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Etiquette[edit]

Please do not remove somebody's messages from the article's talkpage as you did on the Talk:Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army.

Please also be aware of WP:NPOV and WP:V policies. Try to edit in a neutral manner giving room to all points of view on the matter. You also have to provide reliable sources for each fact and attributed opinion. The last but not least, please be aware about the WP:3RR policy:

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you.

Thanks Alex Bakharev 02:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also remember that there is a WP:POINT --Kuban Cossack 02:28, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I only say the truth[edit]

I was extremely offended by many articles that confused Rus with Russia, i only post the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivasyk (talk • contribs)

Unfortunately both Ukraine, Belarus and Russia are successors to Rus, and hence all three deserve equal portrayal, and thus nobody has any rights to consider the Ruthenian people as Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians ONLY. --Kuban Cossack 02:33, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong[edit]

You should mention only that Russian history began when Yuri Dovhoruki, betrayed Ukraine and founded Moscov, at this point Russia begins, its like saying that U S A is the same as England, it is not, their history began in the 1600's, even thought they are descendants. Please stop this nonsense or you will get banned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivasyk (talk • contribs)

3RR block[edit]

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.

-- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 03:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This block has been extended to 24 hours for evasion. —bbatsell ¿? 04:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]