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Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

display="block"

See MOS:FORMULA. (Also possibly of interest Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics/Archive/2022/Feb#display_=_block_and_dark_mode and links therein.) --JBL (talk) 19:46, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

@JayBeeEll why should we prefer <math display=block> when the Wikipedia app darkmode does not support it? Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 01:57, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

There is another discussion at Template talk:Math#"Display=Block"_does_not_work_with_Dark_Mode. Basically, the colons are broken html and do not work in accessibility readers. There is a workaround to use {{bi|left=1.6|<math> ... </math>}} that doesn't have the accessibility problem but the general consensus was to use display=block and hope somebody fixes the bug in the app. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 02:49, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

@Mathnerd314159 okay, I will let them use Display=block, then. Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 04:27, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

And I will mention that I'm using Dark Reader on Firefox Mobile. It is not perfect because sometimes it displays transparent images as black-on-black, but it works fine with the display=block formulas. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 19:56, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Undesigned Coincidences has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Undesigned Coincidences. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 13:56, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Undesigned Coincidences (January 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AngusWOOF were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:47, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Jarfuls of Tweed! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:47, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Curly quotation marks and apostrophes

Thank you for your contributions! Per WP:CURLY, Wikipedia uses only straight quotation marks and apostrophes.—Anita5192 (talk) 00:26, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Undesigned Coincidences (January 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Mattdaviesfsic were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 19:22, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

what part is unsourced? Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 20:11, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

and where should I put the references? Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 20:13, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Sources need to be placed directly after the content they support. Theroadislong (talk) 20:15, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Please visit the blue links above. They should answer all your questions.—Anita5192 (talk) 21:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Undesigned Coincidences (January 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AngusWOOF were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 21:14, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

@AngusWOOF I am fine with that, except a lot of the research on this topic also comes from Lydia McGrew's book, and it would seem unfair to contribute it all to JJ Blunt Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 21:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

and also I don't remember JJ Blunt talking about the critisism of undesigned coincidences in his book Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 21:31, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

And if we create a page for it, both William Paley's and JJ blunts' (and Lydia McGrew's) Wikipedia page references to the concept can link to it Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 21:38, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

If the article is about the book, then the other folks who wrote critiques on the ideas can be mentioned. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 21:44, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

This depends mainly on whether the concept has multiple authors and proponents contributing to it as with intelligent design or whether the concept is mainly from Blunt's book. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 21:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

the concept was originated by William Paley, coined by blunts book, and further researched by Lydia Mcgrew's book Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 21:50, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

It is not as popular as intellegent design, but it still has notibility. For example Yhprum's law, is an idea that has not been expanded on much since its origin Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 21:58, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't think that is bad. Are you okay with that? I just want to share the concept so that it can be easily understood. Is there anything I should change for this article to be published? Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 21:49, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

January 2023

Hello, I'm Teles. I noticed that in this edit to Environmental impact of meat production, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. —Teles «Talk to me˱_{M @ C S}˲» 19:32, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I had an edit summary. it said, "Modified the statement to be more accurate, and moved the sources to the linked article in the sentence". I made the change because the original statement implied that beef has only negative health impacts, which is not entirely true when you look at the linked article in the sentence. Why do you think that my edit was wrong? Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 19:37, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I am going to edit it again to try to make it more of a mix between the two edits. Feel free to revert it again if you believe that it is not justified. Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 19:41, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Recent edit reversion

In this edit here, I reverted some information that appears to be a violation of our copyright policy.

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@Sphilbrick I think this copyright claim is a mistake. The website which claims copyright cites a textbook as its source, and I used that textbook to learn that material.

However, there was a lot of valuable material in the article which I added (in addition to the claimed copyright material), and I know it was not copyright. Can you add that information back into the article because I spent a long time phrasing the information so that it was precise and concise? Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 17:53, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

I just checked the history on my computer, and I never opened the link to the website (cs.purdue.edu) that claims that I took their copyright information. Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 18:28, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't question that you may not have looked at the specific side I mentioned. As you note, that website makes reference to a textbook which you used to learn the material. However, the textbook is almost certainly copyrighted and likely by the same individuals. You man spent time phrasing yet so that it was precise and correct but in my opinion it's too close a paraphrase of the original. I recognize when writing mathematical text and striving for correctness is tempting to use close to the original exact wording, but in my opinion this is to closer paraphrase to accept. As one example:

Your text

An attribute of a functional dependency is extraneous if we can remove it without changing the closure of the set of functional dependencies.

Source text

An attribute in a functional dependency is considered extraneous attribute if we can remove it without changing the closure of the set of dependencies S Philbrick(Talk) 18:48, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick Thank you for giving a precise answer. If I rephrase that sentence, can I republish the information? Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 18:53, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

That was one example. If you do the rewrite (though that I emailed you the contents of your earlier edits), it may may not trigger a review by CopyPatrol. If it does it will be taken up by whichever editor chooses to take it up, so not in a position to promise that if you rewrite it, everything will be fine. That seems likely but I can't make a guarantee. S Philbrick(Talk) 12:56, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick thank you so much, I will see what I can do Jarfuls of Tweed (talk) 15:24, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

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