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Hello, Davood Roostaei, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

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Hello, Thank you for your message! I’m not Davood Roostaei. I am passionate about contemporary art and I like to deeply research and study some unique artists. I wanted to create a proper biography page for the famous and well achieved painter Davood Roostaei as I happen to have a good amount of knowledge on him and his work and I noticed he doesn’t have a proper wiki page yet. I did the writing based on research and using a variety of references as well as my own knowledge. However, because it was my first time using Wikipedia I thought I needed to create the account under the name of Davood Roostaei so it would get published under the proper name. But if this causes a problem I can certainly change my user name if you advise me on how to change the username. It was a misunderstanding on my part I believe. But this is not a biography about me, this is on the artist Davood Roostaei. And the article/biography page I have created on Davood Roostaei is well written based on facts and I would like it to get published as his Wikipedia page. I would appreciate your help to get this done. Best Regards, Jeff Davood Roostaei (talk) 01:26, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Davood Roostaei, don't worry, it's a common mistake for new users to think their username needs to be the name of the article they want to write. To avoid any confusion, I'd recommend you go ahead and change your username - just go to Wikipedia:Changing_username/Simple and file a request there. creffett (talk) 02:26, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. What I have written is a biography of Davood Roostaei which I would like to get published. But I am not Davood Roostaei. So once I change my username will the article/biography I have written get published on Wikipedia? Thank you Davood Roostaei (talk) 02:38, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Previous account(s)[edit]

Hi Jeff Nicolas774,

please use one account only. If you have used other accounts in the past, please list their names here.

See also: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Davood Roostaei

Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:13, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I’ve beeb using this account under the name Davood Roostaei, and I’ve requested a name change to Jeff Nicolas774. I have a darft Dave’s under this account I believe which I would like to publish. Thank you Davood Roostaei (talk) 03:20, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Nicolas774,
Do I understand correctly that you have no connection to Passionate Collector?
Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:22, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Passionate collector was an account I had made, but then I chose to use this account under Davood Roostaei as I thought I needed the username to be the same as the title of my article. So passionate collector should be a defunct account as I have my draft saved under this account now. And I have just requested a username change to Jeff Nicolas774 for this account. Thank you and sorry for the confusion Davood Roostaei (talk) 03:25, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All right, Jeff Nicolas774. No worries. I'll mark the other account as "abandoned"; please don't login as Passionate Collector in the future. A global renamer will probably soon rename the account you are currently using. To login to Wikipedia in the future, you will need to enter the new name. Thanks and best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:28, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! When will the name change happen? I have a draft in this account which I would like to have published. Thank you Davood Roostaei (talk) 03:33, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Davood Roostaei (February 5)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
fails WP:ARTIST
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Theroadislong (talk) 21:36, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, Jeff Nicolas774! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 21:36, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Thank you for your comment! The subject of this article, “ Davood Roostaei” is worthy of notice and significant, and I believe it deserves attention within Wikipedia. Davood Roostaei is a notable individual and if you search his name on google you will find out he has had a long and successful career as an artist and has been widely recognized internationally over the past nearly 40 years. However, I do understand your concern with the references. A number of the references in this article are based on older publications which some of them may not be found online. Another main source of reference has also been the book titled, “ Davood Roostaei and the Manifesto of Cryptorealism”, a book published in 2007. All references I have added are reliable secondary sources which I found. But I can certainly add more references to the list, and I will try to find a number of references which can be found easier online. Thank you for your help! Best Regards, Jeff Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 22:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Davood Roostaei has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Davood Roostaei. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 11:54, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

February 2020[edit]

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Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 12:24, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removing AFC comments[edit]

Do not remove AFC comments, as you did twice in a row recently. They are there to help reviewers assess articles.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 12:24, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did not remove. I just kept on editing my draft. I did not touch the comment you left Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 20:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You might not have intended to, but you did remove a comment, as this diff shows [1]. Theroadislong (talk) 20:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I see. Well I just usually try to find the very last version of my draft then I continue editing it from there. I do appreciate your help and comments as I find them very helpful. So thank you Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 20:20, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Nicolas774, I have dealt with hundreds of articles on artists and I have to tell you, perhaps in the interest of saving time, he does not seem to be notable enough for an article. To be notable enough for us to publish the article, there have to be independent sources. The Pashmin Gallery, eBay, Artprice, abebooks.com sources and the sources written by or published by him are of no value towards notability and need to be removed. The article is also about 90% original research (has to go), and mentions Cryptorealism a lot, which is a neologism that no one but the subject seems to use. You are welcome to try to bring the article up to snuff, but I do not see independent sources that establish his notability. If you do try, you would be much more successful by trying a ten or twenty line article with five real sources than with the enormous unsourced version that now exists. Just some advice.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 20:37, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theroadislong, so is the article progressing in the right direction so far? Thank you Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 20:37, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi thatmontrealllp, thank you for your advice. I understand where you’re coming from. I’ll be removing some of the sources that are not perhaps as solid as wiki likes and I’ll be adding some better sources and I’ll shorten the writing and make it a shorter article. Best Regards, Jeff Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 20:41, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I used artprice just to refer to the list of some exhibitions he had, I referred to some books which were written about him and I cited them like that. And I referred to Pashmin art gallery site to find more exhibition lists and to also find some independent magazines such as IN, MUT, and GALA magazine which had put out articles on him, some of which are hard to find online because they were from the 1990’s and I noticed that Pashmin gallery had a number of the visible under their press section which I could refer to and use. But all of those magazines are independent sources.. I also referred to some biographical videos about him which I included in my sources section. I then also found other news articles which I read to gather some information from which I also put in my sources section. However, I understand some of them are not the New York Times , but they are still independent sources which I had referred to. But I’m still in the process of finding more independent sources on him which I will add to my sources list and to my inline citations. I will also take your advice and make my article shorter. I already chopped some of the introduction off last night, but I’ll make it shorter with better sources. Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 20:57, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Davood Roostaei has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Davood Roostaei. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 22:31, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comment! I see where you are coming from. I’ll certainly correct these and take your suggestions. Thank you again for your time. Regards Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 22:53, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Davood Roostaei has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Davood Roostaei. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 20:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for the comment! I understand what you are saying. I'm just in the process of adding some more sources, and I will re-read the article again and I will make sure to remove any lines that may not have been as popularly cited in secondary sources. I am thinking of making it still abit shorter and removing some more lines where I see possible. Thank you so much for your help!You are incredibly helpful, it is much appreciated.

Stop removing AFC comments (3rd warning)[edit]

As mentioned and warned above, please stop removing AFC comments as you did here, again. You will likely be blocked form editing if you do it again. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:31, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ThatMontreal!

Im sorry but I did not remove anything. The only thing I noticed was that my exhibitions and public collections were gone then I thought I had deleted them accidentally and I just sent a message to Theroadislong on his page to clarify as I was not sure what happened there. But I have been very closely following the advice of both of you so far and I appreciate all your comments and advice as it has been very helpful. What did I remove? I'm sorry but I'm still getting used to and learning the edit page so I apologize if I have deleted anything again by accident.

The edit is logged above. Stop doing that. It is considered to be disruptive editing. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've just noticed that you have done it three times, so you have been amply warned. We are not here for promotion of non-notable subjects, and removing comments is not going to make your subject notable. (For the record: the first time you removed comments, second time, third time.)ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:49, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you mean. I'm sorry non were intentional, I'm still learning the editing page so I'm sorry if some has been disruptive editing. I wil make sure It does not happen again so there are no confusions. I appreciate your understanding.

I just looked under my history and I noticed you had removed my exhibitions and public collections list. If you prefer these sections to not be included I understand. I just edited a last draft. Please see the current one and make sure it is the right one. Thank you

Also please note that I did not remove your comments on purpose or to make my subject notable. I have found your comments very useful so far and I have followed all your suggestions very closely and carefully. I have made my article much shorter as you suggested with more solid references and I am still in the process of adding more references. And I'm not here to promote anything.. Roostaei is a notable artist and I am just trying to put together an informative wiki page with reliable references for him. I have always been passionate about fine contemporary art and artists and I have experience writing about different artists. However, this has been my first try with Wikipedia and I very much appreciate all your help and comments as I'm still learning my way around with Wiki. So again, all your time and help is appreciated. I will continue to edit as closely as possible with your suggestions. The article is significantly shorter now.

Unexplained removal of content[edit]

With this edit [2] you appear to have reverted the helpful edits of User:ThatMontrealIP without explanation? Theroadislong (talk) 11:09, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that the reason my exhibitions and public collections list were taken out was because there were not any references. If you now look at my most recent edit you will notice that I brought the exhibitions and public collections back, however I have now added references to them. I also added a number of other secondary reliable sources to my most recent draft as well. Sorry I did not know I needed to make an explanation. Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 11:18, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have added some more solid sources to my article. What do you think so far? Btw thank you for being so helpful always. Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 11:22, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

February 2020[edit]

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Oh I see what you mean now! You are honestly just amazingly helpful! I am very impressed with your help and guidance and contributions. Thank you Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 11:24, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How is my latest draft coming along now? I have added some more solid references as well. I believe it should be in much better shape now. Your thoughts? Thank you

That would be my latest draft done at 10:54 which im referring to.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Davood Roostaei (May 1)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by RoySmith were:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
-- RoySmith (talk) 19:15, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Davood Roostaei (June 30)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Calliopejen1 was:
A lot of the citations appear to be fabrications, with books that don't exist in any library per worldcat.org. I've removed the ones I could not verify. You need to seriously clean up the references, including ISBNs for books etc. Volunteers aren't going to waste their time going through this mess.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Calliopejen1 (talk) 06:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Davood Roostaei (September 16)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Nightenbelle was:
This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Link dump at end needs to go. Don't need a sources and a resources section. Please also make sure all primary sources are removed.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Nightenbelle (talk) 20:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Davood Roostaei[edit]

Hello, Jeff Nicolas774. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Davood Roostaei".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 20:29, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Davood Roostaei (August 28)[edit]

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by OlifanofmrTennant was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Has been repetadly rejected and lines read like an ad
OLI 20:16, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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