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Photo mixup[edit]

I've discovered a mixup with this image. Second RPC was located at 308 W. 122nd Street, and Street View shows a church at that address with a sign reading "Mount Olive Baptist Church". Street View shows this church at 123rd and Lenox, but it's apparently Ephesus Seventh-Day Adventist Church. Nyttend (talk) 01:17, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Drat; it's near bedtime and I'll be bicycling in the morning (through Central Harlem, among others) and with other things to do will not have time to look it up. By my foggy memory the 2nd Reformed Church was sold in the early 20th century and the present Adventist congregation bought it either directly or in midcentury. Maybe it's in the NYCLPC Guidebook. Have fun sorting it out; I'll be checking it tomorrow night or Monday. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:26, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Was it perhaps a Dutch Reformed or a German Reformed congregation? Such a church would simply be "Reformed", not "Reformed Presbyterian". In 1888, 2nd RPC was on 39th Street near Sixth Avenue, but per its Landmarks Preservation Commission Report, the landmarked building was erected in 1897; I'd be surprised if they moved twice in less than ten years. Nyttend (talk) 01:40, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, if you get a chance (sooner or later), could you get a photo of Emmanuel AME Church on 119th near Fifth? About 0.8 miles away, it was formerly First RPC; as an unofficial denominational historian, I'd really find it helpful. Nyttend (talk) 01:44, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to keep piling on the comments, but yes, the church at Second and 123rd was Dutch, the Second Reformed Church. See page 3 of the Landmarks Preservation Commission's designation statement for Metropolitan Baptist Church. Nyttend (talk) 01:49, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oof, still tired from yesterday's 50 mile bike ride including an unexpected detour through Bayonne and Jersey City. At the beginning I snapped the 119th St church; hope to get to uploading it this week though I'll be returning to Staten Island twice. Yes, the repeated comments create repeated E-mails that accumulated in my Android phone; I would reconfigure to stop that if the nuisance were not slight.

As for the substance, I thought this was a landmarked former Dutch Reformed church but a quick look at the official NYC Landmarks Guidebook fails to find at all the church in the photo. This suggests I indeed screwed up. Got other things to do before my computer club meeting and other activities but I expect to find time to study enough to plead guilty or innocent this week and rename the photo or whatever needs doing. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:35, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All right a quick look for evidence of NYCLPC or NHRP listing has found none, so I'm wrong on that. As for whether this was the Second Reformed Church of Harlem, I have left a reply on the picture's talk page [1] and would appreciate any help that could be provided there. Jim.henderson (talk) 19:10, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I posted a note there. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:25, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. The root of the other errors seems to be my incorrect insertion of the picture into List of New York City Designated Landmarks in Manhattan above 110th Street, having mistaken it for, not a Reformed Presbyterian to the northeast or anything to the south, but a sister Dutch Reformed to the west not yet Wikiphotographed. All fixed now, I hope. Oh, I was going to insert that 119th St AME, wasn't I? Pretty soon. Jim.henderson (talk) 14:22, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And finally got around to uploading my 119th St picture. Cloudy morning compounded the usual problem of photographer incompetence but I hope to revisit this year. Today after a morning blowout (should have replaced that tire a thousand miles ago) it was Staten Island again; got some nice snaps including a lovely Armory. Hmm, probably my favorite biker gang will go to Hastings this week; might be able to make a head start, snap the church in morning sun, and intercept them en route. So little time; so much fun to be had. Jim.henderson (talk) 22:24, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Electronics terms[edit]

Hi Jim, I'm a bit baffled by your edit summary at Signal reflection. You seem to imply that only articles that are stubs just containing a definition should be in this category. That was not how I read the category, or have been using it. I believed it was meant for articles whose title is an electronics term. That said, that particular article probably does not belong anyway. It is not a set phrase, but a sum-of-parts as they would say on Wiktionary. Spinning Spark 01:38, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Drat; intelligent people keep making think about what I'm doing. Unfair. Anyway, however reluctantly, I have begun to think and, as usual when facing a judgement question, to look for precedents. I happened upon Category:Terminology and made it a grandparent to the cat in question. Its talk page has a brief discussion from years ago about technical terminology categories in general, and the examples given seem to have disappeared. This suggests to my possibly excessively suggestible mind that terminology categories are mostly a bad thing that ought to be industriously whittled down and maybe even eliminated. Anyway the question deserves more attention, and probably a more widely watched forum would attract better ideas. Should we carry on the discussion in the cat's own talk page, or the parent's or grandparent's, or perhaps best of all, the Electronics Project's? Jim.henderson (talk) 13:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Terminology categories would certainly be a bad thing if they were being used in the way implied in that discussion. They would have been entirely populated with WP:DICDEFs, which certainly come under WP:NOT. Such stubs are either expanded into articles, deleted, redirected, moved to Wiktionary with a soft redirect, or incorporated in a list such as List of nautical terms. However, the members of these categories don't seem to be that, or they aren't any more. I agree a discussion would be useful, and as it affects numerous categories it should be somewhere central such as Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories. Or it could be on Category talk:Terminology but it should still be linked from the Wikiproject. I'll take a trawl through their archives to see if it's been discussed before. Spinning Spark 15:14, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; the Category Project is an excellent choice of forum; germane and of interest to appropriate watchers but not very busy. I don't expect to find time to comment further in the next few hours. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:20, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll copy this conversation over there, see what they think. Spinning Spark 16:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatroller[edit]

Hi Jim, belated congratulations for contributing over 50 articles, I've now made your account an Autopatroller. If you'd like to have wp:Rollback as well, just have a read of the policy and tell me when you would and wouldn't use it. Cheers Ϣere SpielChequers 20:51, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Gravesend Bay 2012[edit]

Excellent shot! I really like the way it seems to match the colonial image. Dave Golland (talk) 12:21, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why, thank you. I had forgotten about that 1880s painting but saw the article again before retouching, so yes, carefully included as much of the tree as got caught in the photo, and cropped out a cute but distracted-looking young woman to arrive at a similar composition. Alas, the storeline has so changed (the land under the tree is only 50 years old) that I see no way to set up a similarly attractive southwestern view with the Monmouth Highlands in background. Jim.henderson (talk) 18:27, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello[edit]

Jim, just saying Hi. I have seen your name in a couple of articles I have looked at and mostly we co-operated unknowingly on the Signalling System No 5 work. My time in telecomms on this side of the pond was 1968 to 2004 with BT (a lot of it BT International) and 2005-2010 with our MoD. Glad you're enjoying your retirement too. All the best, Ken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midnight Hour (talk • contribs) 08:28, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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hey Jim[edit]

Sorry I called you a corp tool. You're clearly a man intent on sharing knowledges with the world, and I can respect that. Keep it up. =D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.7.156.34 (talk) 02:41, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous apology accepted. As my user page may hint, I am proud of my many years of service as a corporate tool. Hatred, however, even when as precisely targeted as in this case, seldom substitutes adequately for Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Jim.henderson (talk) 11:46, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I call myself a "corporate lapdog" in my volunteer editing. Wikipedia needs more of us! ;-) User:King4057 13:41, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

“RFK Bridge” renaming discussion[edit]

Efb91 (talk · contribs) is requesting that “Robert F. Kennedy Bridge” be moved back to its old title of “Triborough Bridge”. Since you voiced an opinion during the last move discussion, I figured I’d bring it to your attention (although I suspect your position hasn’t changed). This new discussion is at Talk:Robert F. Kennedy Bridge#Proposal To Change Improper Article Title; Triborough Bridge Is Common-Use Name According to Wall Street Journal.. Larry V (talk | email) 00:57, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Camorra in New York[edit]

Thanks Jim for your linking of East Harlem to Italian Harlem in the Camorra in New York‎ article. Very useful and instructive. Cheers. - DonCalo (talk) 22:01, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places#use of upload-assisting pic in NRHP lists[edit]

Could you comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National_Register of Historic Places#use of upload-assisting pic in NRHP lists?

This is regarding a key part of the upcoming WLM-US photo contest. Smallbones (talk) 12:24, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please see WT:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Historic_Places#WLM_Android_App_from_WMF

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I think you'd find this interesting[edit]

Indianapolis Circle Theatre, now 96 years old:

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=BG&Date=20120830&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=208300803&Ref=PH&Item=0&Item=0

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Temp H train[edit]

If you can find a way to get there. Getting a photo of the free H service on the Rockaways would be great for the R. Park Shuttle article. Mitch32^{(Victim of public education, 17 years and counting)} 13:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have been thinking of a visit, for this reason and even more to get a shot of the demolished boardwalk and other damage before it's neatened. That will be early next week, if at all. Three possible approaches:Bike across the Bay from Howard Beach station (been told the bikeway is open), or LIRR to Far Rockaway, or boat from Pier 11 to Beach 106 Street. I'll see what time and opportunities are available. Jim.henderson (talk) 02:19, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fouth, IRT to Brooklyn College, unfold to pedal over Marine Parkway Bridge, and return by boat. Good snaps of storm / fire damage in Breezy Point, but was tired by the time I got to the closed B116 St station. Further east I wasn't ready when the train suddenly thundered over my head. So, no pix of that. Too dark during the boat ride but some of those might be admissible. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:36, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Manhattan College[edit]

Dear Jim I see you have reviewer status. We are trying to update the Manhattan College page and I cannot seem to add images yet. If I sent you the new logo etc could you upload it for us? We are also working on new content for the page.

Thank you, Patrice Athanasidy Marketing Assistant 914-519-7659 — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatAthJasper (talk • contribs) 11:38, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, it's something I haven't tone before. There are questions of copyright that I haven't much thought about. I'll get home soon (anonymously testing a ms Surface at the store right now) and get back to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.241.152.68 (talk) 18:27, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Most d.c. regenerative braking systems provide power back to the power line (third rail) so that other trains can use the recovered energy. I agree that very few have an inverter to return energy back to the electric grid.

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Relaynet[edit]

Hello Jim Henderson. Were you involved in Relaynet? Your name sounds familiar. I used to lurk on a Relaynet board, I think it was Moondog. I don't recall posting anything. Glad to see a familiar name. Coretheapple (talk) 00:46, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I played several NYC boards, mostly PCBoard including Howard's Running Board in The Bronx and David Greenberger's Aardvark on Upper Broadway. From 1989 to 2005 I operated The Double Helix, which was RIMEd when I took it over from the founder but my inexperience forced it off the network. Nowadays I'm just as obsessive with Wikipedia, which doesn't remind me as much of Simon Bolivar's comment about plowing the sea. Jim.henderson (talk) 02:18, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Those names sound familiar. Those were the days! Coretheapple (talk) 18:29, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gimp aid[edit]

Jim - Thank you for your reply at the help desk.[2] I rotated the image and then uploaded it to File:Ford B2410-29A NLGRF Sandra Eisert 1976-12-06. I want to learn Gimp and would appreciate any help you can give me in walking me through using Gimp to improve the photo. For example, if you give me a first Gimp step to modify the photo, I'll work on that and then let you know when I'm done to request a next step. I made a prior apprenticeship request at Graphics Lab, but that did not go well. Thanks. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:35, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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