User talk:Jmanaigre

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Speedy deletion nomination of IISD Reporting Services (IISD RS)[edit]

A tag has been placed on IISD Reporting Services (IISD RS), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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Proposed deletion of International Institute for Sustainable Development[edit]

The article International Institute for Sustainable Development has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

This wiki is not written as an encyclopedic article, a large (full?) part is a copyright violation (copy of organization website), there is a lack of reliable independent sources, so notability can not be established, even after 2 years of existence of the article

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. L.tak (talk) 17:51, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

re-establishing it[edit]

Dear user, you can in principle have the article "userfied", which means it is placed in your userspace Jmanaigre/International Institute for Sustainable Development until it is improved enough to be back in userspace. I can ask for this, but would like you to consider:

a large part was copy-pasted from the website of the organization. That is not allowed, so that info will have to go. We can only reuse information in our own words (see WP:COPYVIO)
Even important and interesting organizations can not all get their page on wikipedia. What should be established is notability according to wikipedia guidelines (which are different from real life notaiblity). At WP:ORG the rules for organizations' notability are shown. It requires at least two independent reliable sources.

If you confirm (by giving a reply here) that you i) understood this, ii) you will remove the copyrighted parts and iii) you have at least two suitable sources, I will ask for userfying and help you establish it. If there is a problem (e.g. with the notability) it is best to discuss now to avoid disappointments later. Looking forward to your answer; and I sincerely hope I am not discouraging you! L.tak (talk) 18:57, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

re-establishing it - TWO[edit]

Hello L.tak, yes please I would like to try this again... can you please bring these back into my user space?

Really appreciate it...

So you confirm, you have sources? Could you show them by placing them here? And can you please confirm you will remove the copyvios immediately (otherwise the wikimedia foudnation gets into trouble ;-)). Thanks in advance for your answers! L.tak (talk) 17:50, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi L.tak, as this is all WAY over my head, I'm punting this back to head of publishing to deal with finding the sources.

Our article was pretty much along these same lines as the UNEP entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unep#References or does it not follow the rules either?

As we do majot work for the UN, I'm assuming the big boss will find what we need here.

As for the copyright materials, if we prove the content is genuine with references, does that fix our problem?

Again, way over my head here, if need be I can put you in touch directly with the Head of Publishing for IISD.

Thanks for all the help L.tak

Yeah the WP:notability rules within wikipedia can be tricky; especially, when you're not used to it. What complicates, is that organizations/people are generally discouraged to write about themselves in the starting point: "if your organization is eligible to be included in wikipedia, finally someone uninvolved will". However, it is not forbidden to write about your organization, but what needs to be established is that others (WP:reliable sources, like newspapers) write about the organization (no blogs, no press releases, no "incidental mentioning" etcetc). although the UNEP article is badly sourced, it would be easy to find those links (check google news and you'll find a whole lot of sources), so notability is established (although I admit, weakly in the article, but it can be correctd easily).

In conclusion, the crux is really in notability and we need sources! Your colleague is welcome to help out if he/she can provide those (please note: accounts at wikipedia are personal, so your collegue should make a new account or contribute withoug logging in). Hope this helps, L.tak (talk) 21:24, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi L.Tak, ok, I've handed this off to one of our writers, Rick Groom from IISD, so his account will be rgroom. If you two can tango and get this bad boy done, that would be great.

re-establishing it - THREE[edit]

Hi again L.tak we also had a second article, IISD RS, if you could resurect both, that would be wicked.

for that, the same goes (at least: now I cannot see the content so I have no idea). Please answer the questions I posed for the first one...